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[coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Michael L. <mi...@s2...> - 2004-05-30 22:47:50

Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the lucky soul.
I've been using Gentoo for about two years, and was quite happy to get it
running under coLinux.  Now, I have everything setup, networking works
great, etc, etc.  Today, I tried the magic 'emerge sync' followed by 'emerge
-u world'.  The world upgrade chokes horribly on upgrading Perl, for some
reason.  Has anybody seen this problem, and better yet, resolved it?  I'm
having a specific problem with the tests that are performed, it basically
hangs at the following 'lib/Benchmark........................'
 
So, any help would be appreciated.  :)
 
Thanks,
 
Mike

Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Supergeek <web...@we...> - 2004-05-30 23:12:54

I'm gettin this problem aswell. It'll just sit there for hours eating up
CPU cycles without doing anything. Does anyone know a way to diable the
tests so that it can continue without them?

Thanks

Mark

Michael Laccetti wrote:

> Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the lucky 
> soul.  I've been using Gentoo for about two years, and was quite happy 
> to get it running under coLinux.  Now, I have everything setup, 
> networking works great, etc, etc.  Today, I tried the magic 'emerge 
> sync' followed by 'emerge -u world'.  The world upgrade chokes 
> horribly on upgrading Perl, for some reason.  Has anybody seen this 
> problem, and better yet, resolved it?  I'm having a specific problem 
> with the tests that are performed, it basically hangs at the following 
> 'lib/Benchmark........................'
>  
> So, any help would be appreciated.  :)
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mike

Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Joel M. <jo...@ma...> - 2004-05-30 23:47:42

I have the same problem.  I didn't notice it eating CPU, I thought it 
was just hung and doing nothing, but I could be wrong.

Joel


Michael Laccetti wrote:
> Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the lucky 
> soul.  I've been using Gentoo for about two years, and was quite happy 
> to get it running under coLinux.  Now, I have everything setup, 
> networking works great, etc, etc.  Today, I tried the magic 'emerge 
> sync' followed by 'emerge -u world'.  The world upgrade chokes horribly 
> on upgrading Perl, for some reason.  Has anybody seen this problem, and 
> better yet, resolved it?  I'm having a specific problem with the tests 
> that are performed, it basically hangs at the following 
> 'lib/Benchmark........................'
>  
> So, any help would be appreciated.  :)
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mike

RE: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Michael L. <mi...@s2...> - 2004-05-30 23:53:01

Well, I've done an emerge inject perl-5.8.4 just to get past it.  But still,
this is a bit of a showstopper.  If you can't emerge -u world, that's not a
good sign.

-----Original Message-----
From: col...@li...
[mailto:col...@li...] On Behalf Of Joel Moore
Sent: May 30, 2004 7:48 PM
To: col...@li...
Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

I have the same problem.  I didn't notice it eating CPU, I thought it was
just hung and doing nothing, but I could be wrong.

Joel


Michael Laccetti wrote:
> Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the lucky 
> soul.  I've been using Gentoo for about two years, and was quite happy 
> to get it running under coLinux.  Now, I have everything setup, 
> networking works great, etc, etc.  Today, I tried the magic 'emerge 
> sync' followed by 'emerge -u world'.  The world upgrade chokes 
> horribly on upgrading Perl, for some reason.  Has anybody seen this 
> problem, and better yet, resolved it?  I'm having a specific problem 
> with the tests that are performed, it basically hangs at the following 
> 'lib/Benchmark........................'
>  
> So, any help would be appreciated.  :)
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Mike



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Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: David K. <da...@gi...> - 2004-05-31 16:18:51

> Michael Laccetti wrote:
>>> Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the
>>> lucky soul.  ...using Gentoo ... 'emerge sync' followed by 'emerge
>>> -u world'.  The world upgrade chokes horribly on upgrading Perl,
>>> for some reason.  Has anybody seen this
>>> problem, and better yet, resolved it?  I'm having a specific problem
>>> with the tests that are performed, it basically hangs at the
>>> following 'lib/Benchmark........................'
>>>
>> Joel Moore wrote
>>
>> I have the same problem.  I didn't notice it eating CPU, I thought it
>> was just hung and doing nothing, but I could be wrong.
>>
>
> Well, I've done an emerge inject perl-5.8.4 just to get past it.  But
> still, this is a bit of a showstopper.  If you can't emerge -u world,
> that's not a good sign.

it's not limited to gentoo either, of course.

the make tests also fail for Time::Hires, and thus for all the
Benchmarks, even when compiling perl 5.8.4 on the coLinux-supplied
debian filesystem image.  i was trying this perlmonks tutorial "Install
parallel Perl on Debian" [ http://perlmonks.thepen.com/285799.html ]

i think it has something to do with the fact that my underlying
filesystem is FAT32 instead of NTFS.  FAT32 files have a time
"resolution" of just less that 2 seconds, which confuses compilers and
makes Time::Hires think it has failed when it hasn't really -- the
filesystem has failed it.

the only workaround i know of is to just not run "make test" when
compiling perl -- not an optimal solution, of course.  but i skipped it
and just did a make install and my new perl 5.8.4 installed flawlessly
and works great.

i'd be interested to see if it really *is* the FAT32 -second time
resolution limitation that is causing this, and if so, what can be done
about it to make perl detect the environment, and skip the test on this
platform, as perl for windows does on FAT32 volumes.  are you two both
running colinux on Fat32-formatted drives?  if you're not sure then, in
explorer, right-click the drive colinux is installed on, select
properties, and "General" tab should show

       Type: Local Disk
File System: FAT32

if it says NTFS instead of FAT32 and you're getting this error compiling
perl, then drop me a note so i can look into it further.

Dan, if my suspicions are right, how could perl tests running on coLinux
even *discover* that the host filesystem is FAT32 so that we can teach
them to skip these tests?  and wouldn't there have to be some run-time
test perl could do to learn the host filesystem, since the colinux image
might be moved to and from different filesystems while it was "asleeep"?

-dave

Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Joel M. <jo...@ma...> - 2004-05-31 18:04:37

Nope, the problem isn't that it's FAT32.  Mine is NTFS.

Joel


David Kaufman wrote:
  >
> it's not limited to gentoo either, of course.
> 
> the make tests also fail for Time::Hires, and thus for all the
> Benchmarks, even when compiling perl 5.8.4 on the coLinux-supplied
> debian filesystem image.  i was trying this perlmonks tutorial "Install
> parallel Perl on Debian" [ http://perlmonks.thepen.com/285799.html ]
> 
> i think it has something to do with the fact that my underlying
> filesystem is FAT32 instead of NTFS.  FAT32 files have a time
> "resolution" of just less that 2 seconds, which confuses compilers and
> makes Time::Hires think it has failed when it hasn't really -- the
> filesystem has failed it.
> 
> the only workaround i know of is to just not run "make test" when
> compiling perl -- not an optimal solution, of course.  but i skipped it
> and just did a make install and my new perl 5.8.4 installed flawlessly
> and works great.
> 
> i'd be interested to see if it really *is* the FAT32 -second time
> resolution limitation that is causing this, and if so, what can be done
> about it to make perl detect the environment, and skip the test on this
> platform, as perl for windows does on FAT32 volumes.  are you two both
> running colinux on Fat32-formatted drives?  if you're not sure then, in
> explorer, right-click the drive colinux is installed on, select
> properties, and "General" tab should show
> 
>        Type: Local Disk
> File System: FAT32
> 
> if it says NTFS instead of FAT32 and you're getting this error compiling
> perl, then drop me a note so i can look into it further.
> 
> Dan, if my suspicions are right, how could perl tests running on coLinux
> even *discover* that the host filesystem is FAT32 so that we can teach
> them to skip these tests?  and wouldn't there have to be some run-time
> test perl could do to learn the host filesystem, since the colinux image
> might be moved to and from different filesystems while it was "asleeep"?
> 
> -dave

RE: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

From: Michael L. <mi...@s2...> - 2004-05-31 18:33:36

Well, I'm using NTFS, so perhaps we can rule that out...  :) 

-----Original Message-----
From: col...@li...
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Kaufman
Sent: May 31, 2004 12:19 PM
To: col...@li...
Cc: col...@li...; Dan Aloni
Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Gentoo (Deluxe) - Perl compile issues?

> Michael Laccetti wrote:
>>> Not sure if anybody else is having this problem, or I'm just the 
>>> lucky soul.  ...using Gentoo ... 'emerge sync' followed by 'emerge 
>>> -u world'.  The world upgrade chokes horribly on upgrading Perl, for 
>>> some reason.  Has anybody seen this problem, and better yet, 
>>> resolved it?  I'm having a specific problem with the tests that are 
>>> performed, it basically hangs at the following 
>>> 'lib/Benchmark........................'
>>>
>> Joel Moore wrote
>>
>> I have the same problem.  I didn't notice it eating CPU, I thought it 
>> was just hung and doing nothing, but I could be wrong.
>>
>
> Well, I've done an emerge inject perl-5.8.4 just to get past it.  But 
> still, this is a bit of a showstopper.  If you can't emerge -u world, 
> that's not a good sign.

it's not limited to gentoo either, of course.

the make tests also fail for Time::Hires, and thus for all the Benchmarks,
even when compiling perl 5.8.4 on the coLinux-supplied debian filesystem
image.  i was trying this perlmonks tutorial "Install parallel Perl on
Debian" [ http://perlmonks.thepen.com/285799.html ]

i think it has something to do with the fact that my underlying filesystem
is FAT32 instead of NTFS.  FAT32 files have a time "resolution" of just less
that 2 seconds, which confuses compilers and makes Time::Hires think it has
failed when it hasn't really -- the filesystem has failed it.

the only workaround i know of is to just not run "make test" when compiling
perl -- not an optimal solution, of course.  but i skipped it and just did a
make install and my new perl 5.8.4 installed flawlessly and works great.

i'd be interested to see if it really *is* the FAT32 -second time resolution
limitation that is causing this, and if so, what can be done about it to
make perl detect the environment, and skip the test on this platform, as
perl for windows does on FAT32 volumes.  are you two both running colinux on
Fat32-formatted drives?  if you're not sure then, in explorer, right-click
the drive colinux is installed on, select properties, and "General" tab
should show

       Type: Local Disk
File System: FAT32

if it says NTFS instead of FAT32 and you're getting this error compiling
perl, then drop me a note so i can look into it further.

Dan, if my suspicions are right, how could perl tests running on coLinux
even *discover* that the host filesystem is FAT32 so that we can teach them
to skip these tests?  and wouldn't there have to be some run-time test perl
could do to learn the host filesystem, since the colinux image might be
moved to and from different filesystems while it was "asleeep"?

-dave

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