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From: Blake <pb...@ta...> - 2004-06-08 19:14:05
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I'm not sure of the modes. I use the TAP driver and use XP's "Network Bridging" between the TAP device and my wireless card. I had to set promiscuous mode for the wireless nic for things to work consistently. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I remember reading something about that on the Wiki, but forgot about it... thanks for reminding me... If you don't mind me asking, was that trick supposed to work with TAP, or with BRIDGE mode of coLinux networking? greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 18:30 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Did you do the "netsh bridge set" trick to set promiscuous mode for your wireless NIC? Reference: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/crawford/02april22.asp --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I got a basic coLinux/gentoo installation working without much trouble, but networking is giving me headaches. I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1 with all latest updates, and coLinux 0.6.1 with gentoo deluxe 2g. I also have a personal firewall installed: sygate 3.5 (corporate policy to have it running). The only networking-option that seems to work for me at all, is using the TAP driver and a proxy-server (I installed FreeProxy 3.72, which seems to dislike the wget ftp client -- but that's another issue). The Briding option in XP doesn't work for me, I have no clue why, but it doesn't give me an IP address on the bridged driver and all my networking dies. Internet Connection Sharing? I'd rather not try, but I doubt it will make any difference compared to the problems I currently have. coLinux bridged networking doesn't work for me either, b/c my NICs are wireless... So I have to use the TAP driver with a proxy server. I've configured the windows side with a static IP address of 10.10.10.1, and the linux side with a static IP of 10.10.10.2. FreeProxy does HTTP proxying on 8080, and SOCKS proxying on 1080. Now my problem is: after some time, or perhaps rather after some amount of traffic, the network dies. Not the connections that run over the TAP driver, they seem to perhaps work, but all external networking dies. My web-browser in windows no longer manages to load any page. No amount of starting/stopping FreeProxy makes any difference. But as soon as I stop coLinux, my networking is alive again. When I restart coLinux I usually still have a working network, although it seems not always. At which point I perhaps have to reboot... Does anyone else have similar problems? regards, --Tim ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users |
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From: Leeuw v. d. T. <tim...@nl...> - 2004-06-08 19:50:21
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Ok, that might make WinXP bridging work, I'll give that a try... Guess = it wont work with WinPCAP then, too bad! :-) Is promiscuous mode something that the driver remembers, or do you need = to set it every time you boot? And if you do a lot of downloads from coLinux (like apt-get upgrade, or = emerge --update world), the network doesn't die after a while? B/c = that's what happens to me with the TAP driver. I tried updating the TAP driver to the 8.0 from the just-released = OpenVPN 2.0b4, but that doesn't work at all, so I'll have to downgrade. greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 21:14 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while I'm not sure of the modes. I use the TAP driver and use XP's "Network Bridging" between the TAP device and my wireless card. I had to set promiscuous mode for the wireless nic for things to work consistently. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I remember reading something about that on the Wiki, but forgot about = it... thanks for reminding me... If you don't mind me asking, was that trick supposed to work with TAP, or with BRIDGE mode of coLinux networking? greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 18:30 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Did you do the "netsh bridge set" trick to set promiscuous mode for your wireless NIC? Reference: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/crawford/02april22.= asp --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I got a basic coLinux/gentoo installation working without much trouble, = but networking is giving me headaches. I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1 with all latest updates, and coLinux 0.6.1 = with gentoo deluxe 2g. I also have a personal firewall installed: sygate 3.5 (corporate policy to have it running). The only networking-option that seems to work for me at all, is using = the TAP driver and a proxy-server (I installed FreeProxy 3.72, which seems = to dislike the wget ftp client -- but that's another issue). The Briding option in XP doesn't work for me, I have no clue why, but it doesn't give me an IP address on the bridged driver and all my = networking dies. Internet Connection Sharing? I'd rather not try, but I doubt it will = make any difference compared to the problems I currently have. coLinux bridged networking doesn't work for me either, b/c my NICs are wireless... So I have to use the TAP driver with a proxy server. I've configured the windows side with a static IP address of 10.10.10.1, = and the linux side with a static IP of 10.10.10.2. FreeProxy does HTTP = proxying on 8080, and SOCKS proxying on 1080. Now my problem is: after some time, or perhaps rather after some amount = of traffic, the network dies. Not the connections that run over the TAP = driver, they seem to perhaps work, but all external networking dies. My = web-browser in windows no longer manages to load any page. No amount of starting/stopping FreeProxy makes any difference. But as soon as I stop coLinux, my networking is alive again. When I restart coLinux I usually still have a working network, although = it seems not always. At which point I perhaps have to reboot... Does anyone else have similar problems? regards, --Tim ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users |
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From: Blake <pb...@ta...> - 2004-06-08 20:14:19
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From what I take away from the article, forcing compatibility mode on the NIC should be done out of the box. I don't know why you'd want to use pcap for this since you can avoid it. Why use something that runs at layer 3 (essentially) to do a layer 1 (or 2) job? Not to mention that pcap wasn't really created with windows in mind (no bpf). Use the XP bridging ... it works fine. The "netsh b set" procedure only needs to be done once apparently. I just ran a "netsh b sh a" and it shows that my nic is still in "ForceCompatibiltyMode" many boots after I originally set it. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Ok, that might make WinXP bridging work, I'll give that a try... Guess it wont work with WinPCAP then, too bad! :-) Is promiscuous mode something that the driver remembers, or do you need to set it every time you boot? And if you do a lot of downloads from coLinux (like apt-get upgrade, or emerge --update world), the network doesn't die after a while? B/c that's what happens to me with the TAP driver. I tried updating the TAP driver to the 8.0 from the just-released OpenVPN 2.0b4, but that doesn't work at all, so I'll have to downgrade. greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 21:14 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while I'm not sure of the modes. I use the TAP driver and use XP's "Network Bridging" between the TAP device and my wireless card. I had to set promiscuous mode for the wireless nic for things to work consistently. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I remember reading something about that on the Wiki, but forgot about it... thanks for reminding me... If you don't mind me asking, was that trick supposed to work with TAP, or with BRIDGE mode of coLinux networking? greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 18:30 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Did you do the "netsh bridge set" trick to set promiscuous mode for your wireless NIC? Reference: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/crawford/02april22.asp --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I got a basic coLinux/gentoo installation working without much trouble, but networking is giving me headaches. I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1 with all latest updates, and coLinux 0.6.1 with gentoo deluxe 2g. I also have a personal firewall installed: sygate 3.5 (corporate policy to have it running). The only networking-option that seems to work for me at all, is using the TAP driver and a proxy-server (I installed FreeProxy 3.72, which seems to dislike the wget ftp client -- but that's another issue). The Briding option in XP doesn't work for me, I have no clue why, but it doesn't give me an IP address on the bridged driver and all my networking dies. Internet Connection Sharing? I'd rather not try, but I doubt it will make any difference compared to the problems I currently have. coLinux bridged networking doesn't work for me either, b/c my NICs are wireless... So I have to use the TAP driver with a proxy server. I've configured the windows side with a static IP address of 10.10.10.1, and the linux side with a static IP of 10.10.10.2. FreeProxy does HTTP proxying on 8080, and SOCKS proxying on 1080. Now my problem is: after some time, or perhaps rather after some amount of traffic, the network dies. Not the connections that run over the TAP driver, they seem to perhaps work, but all external networking dies. My web-browser in windows no longer manages to load any page. No amount of starting/stopping FreeProxy makes any difference. But as soon as I stop coLinux, my networking is alive again. When I restart coLinux I usually still have a working network, although it seems not always. At which point I perhaps have to reboot... Does anyone else have similar problems? regards, --Tim ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users |
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From: Blake <pb...@ta...> - 2004-06-08 21:10:03
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Oh, I forgot to answer your question about network stability. I've put a lot of network traffic through this scheme and haven't dropped connection. I emerged a large number of things and rsynced a bunch of stuff to my coLinux partitions ... about 6 GB worth. It's held up well. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Ok, that might make WinXP bridging work, I'll give that a try... Guess it wont work with WinPCAP then, too bad! :-) Is promiscuous mode something that the driver remembers, or do you need to set it every time you boot? And if you do a lot of downloads from coLinux (like apt-get upgrade, or emerge --update world), the network doesn't die after a while? B/c that's what happens to me with the TAP driver. I tried updating the TAP driver to the 8.0 from the just-released OpenVPN 2.0b4, but that doesn't work at all, so I'll have to downgrade. greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 21:14 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while I'm not sure of the modes. I use the TAP driver and use XP's "Network Bridging" between the TAP device and my wireless card. I had to set promiscuous mode for the wireless nic for things to work consistently. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Cc: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I remember reading something about that on the Wiki, but forgot about it... thanks for reminding me... If you don't mind me asking, was that trick supposed to work with TAP, or with BRIDGE mode of coLinux networking? greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 18:30 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Did you do the "netsh bridge set" trick to set promiscuous mode for your wireless NIC? Reference: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/crawford/02april22.asp --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> To: <col...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:23 AM Subject: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Hi, I got a basic coLinux/gentoo installation working without much trouble, but networking is giving me headaches. I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1 with all latest updates, and coLinux 0.6.1 with gentoo deluxe 2g. I also have a personal firewall installed: sygate 3.5 (corporate policy to have it running). The only networking-option that seems to work for me at all, is using the TAP driver and a proxy-server (I installed FreeProxy 3.72, which seems to dislike the wget ftp client -- but that's another issue). The Briding option in XP doesn't work for me, I have no clue why, but it doesn't give me an IP address on the bridged driver and all my networking dies. Internet Connection Sharing? I'd rather not try, but I doubt it will make any difference compared to the problems I currently have. coLinux bridged networking doesn't work for me either, b/c my NICs are wireless... So I have to use the TAP driver with a proxy server. I've configured the windows side with a static IP address of 10.10.10.1, and the linux side with a static IP of 10.10.10.2. FreeProxy does HTTP proxying on 8080, and SOCKS proxying on 1080. Now my problem is: after some time, or perhaps rather after some amount of traffic, the network dies. Not the connections that run over the TAP driver, they seem to perhaps work, but all external networking dies. My web-browser in windows no longer manages to load any page. No amount of starting/stopping FreeProxy makes any difference. But as soon as I stop coLinux, my networking is alive again. When I restart coLinux I usually still have a working network, although it seems not always. At which point I perhaps have to reboot... Does anyone else have similar problems? regards, --Tim ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway http://2004/guadec.org _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users |
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From: Leeuw v. d. T. <tim...@nl...> - 2004-06-11 11:43:34
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Hi Blake, Thanks for your help and your answers! I haven't yet changed my setup actually; I'm still using a proxy. Didn't = yet find time to fiddle with the network bridge and wireless driver = settings... When I do, it tends to upset my VPN connection and other = things, which I need while working. So I never find the right moment. But the networking stability issues seemed to have resolved themselves = somehow and I now suspect the WinPCAP driver which I had been = experimenting with before, and without rebooting WinXP. I'm on a wired LAN today so I thought I'd give the briding-mode another = try and although it works really like a charm, after I shut down coLinux = my network was dead and I needed to reboot Windows. I'll stay with TAP networking for now :-) Either bridged or proxied. greetings, --Tim -----Original Message----- From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 23:07 To: Leeuw van der, Tim Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while Oh, I forgot to answer your question about network stability. I've put = a lot of network traffic through this scheme and haven't dropped = connection. I emerged a large number of things and rsynced a bunch of stuff to my coLinux partitions ... about 6 GB worth. It's held up well. --Blake pb...@ta... |
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From: Blake <pb...@ta...> - 2004-06-08 21:04:28
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Yeah, I had a bit of a hard time at first as well. I'm not exactly sure why it didn't work right off the bat and am pretty sure that my twiddling and untwiddling settings didn't really help in getting things working (other than the "netsh b" thing). I don't use DHCP for the colinux instance, I use a static address. With this XP bridging scheme, XP hides the MAC of the TAP adapter behind my wireless' MAC and so the outside world will only see the wireless' MAC ... not good for DHCP or anything that relies on reverse arp (nothing that I can think of). It's the only drawback I can see with this scheme, I haven't figured out how to get around this yet. I'll probably end up just sending a DHCP option from the coLinux client to the DHCP server and basing the DHCP server's address assignment on this option. --Blake pb...@ta... ----- Original Message ----- From: "cgmelt" <cg...@xa...> To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while > > Hello, > I'm so happy i found someone who did that, > I am trying to setup bridge between my wrireless card and the TAP > driver, and I just can't succeed. > When I bridge between them, everything stops to work, seems like the > "Bridge" has no access > to the real network (DHCP doesn't work), > maybe you can help? > what should I do to fix this. > > thanks in advance ;) > > Blake wrote: > > >I'm not sure of the modes. I use the TAP driver and use XP's "Network > >Bridging" between the TAP device and my wireless card. I had to set > >promiscuous mode for the wireless nic for things to work consistently. > > > >--Blake > >pb...@ta... > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> > >To: "Blake" <pb...@ta...> > >Cc: <col...@li...> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 2:32 PM > >Subject: RE: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I remember reading something about that on the Wiki, but forgot about it... > >thanks for reminding me... If you don't mind me asking, was that trick > >supposed to work with TAP, or with BRIDGE mode of coLinux networking? > > > >greetings, > > > >--Tim > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Blake [mailto:pb...@ta...] > >Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 2004 18:30 > >To: Leeuw van der, Tim > >Cc: col...@li... > >Subject: Re: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while > > > > > >Did you do the "netsh bridge set" trick to set promiscuous mode for your > >wireless NIC? Reference: > >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/crawford/02april22.as p > > > >--Blake > >pb...@ta... > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Leeuw van der, Tim" <tim...@nl...> > >To: <col...@li...> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:23 AM > >Subject: [coLinux-users] Network dies after a while > > > > > >Hi, > > > >I got a basic coLinux/gentoo installation working without much trouble, but > >networking is giving me headaches. > > > >I'm using WindowsXP Pro SP1 with all latest updates, and coLinux 0.6.1 with > >gentoo deluxe 2g. I also have a personal firewall installed: sygate 3.5 > >(corporate policy to have it running). > > > >The only networking-option that seems to work for me at all, is using the > >TAP driver and a proxy-server (I installed FreeProxy 3.72, which seems to > >dislike the wget ftp client -- but that's another issue). > > > >The Briding option in XP doesn't work for me, I have no clue why, but it > >doesn't give me an IP address on the bridged driver and all my networking > >dies. > > > >Internet Connection Sharing? I'd rather not try, but I doubt it will make > >any difference compared to the problems I currently have. > > > >coLinux bridged networking doesn't work for me either, b/c my NICs are > >wireless... > > > >So I have to use the TAP driver with a proxy server. > > > >I've configured the windows side with a static IP address of 10.10.10.1, and > >the linux side with a static IP of 10.10.10.2. FreeProxy does HTTP proxying > >on 8080, and SOCKS proxying on 1080. > > > >Now my problem is: after some time, or perhaps rather after some amount of > >traffic, the network dies. Not the connections that run over the TAP driver, > >they seem to perhaps work, but all external networking dies. My web-browser > >in windows no longer manages to load any page. No amount of > >starting/stopping FreeProxy makes any difference. > >But as soon as I stop coLinux, my networking is alive again. > > > >When I restart coLinux I usually still have a working network, although it > >seems not always. At which point I perhaps have to reboot... > > > > > >Does anyone else have similar problems? > > > > > >regards, > > > >--Tim > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation > >Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. > >GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway > >http://2004/guadec.org > >_______________________________________________ > >coLinux-users mailing list > >coL...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation > >Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. > >GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway > >http://2004/guadec.org > >_______________________________________________ > >coLinux-users mailing list > >coL...@li... > >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > > > > > > > > > |
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