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Re: [coLinux-users] How set MTU and txlen?

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hol...@st...(Holger Krull)  04.06.08 09:43

Once upon a time "Holger Krull " shaped the electrons to say...

>Rainer Zocholl schrieb:

>> I ran into  the problem, that a "funny hub" on the way between
>> an SDSL and an ADSL Interface allows only an MTU of 1484!
>> That "funny hub" (maybe a hidden tunnel) fagments every paket which
>> is greater than 1484 into a first paket of unusual 1000 bytes but
>> is not generating ICMP when DF sez set, so the correct MTU
>> is undetectable by PMTUD.
>>
>> How can set set the MTU permanently?

>How about: ifconfig eth0 mtu 1484

Yes, thanks.
But
a) that should be done permanently (in debian in /etc/network/interfaces)
b) I posted the question to the wrong list. It should have been 
   posted to "ipcop-user", which a no-debian linux but has a GUI to 
   configure, but not for the MTU.

Sorry for any innconvience.

Re: [coLinux-users] How set MTU and txlen?

[Holger K. <hol...@st...>]

Rainer Zocholl schrieb:
 
> I ran into  the problem, that a "funny hub" on the way between
> an SDSL and an ADSL Interface allows only an MTU of 1484!
> That "funny hub" (maybe a hidden tunnel) fagments every paket which 
> is greater than 1484 into a first paket of unusual 1000 bytes but
> is not generating ICMP when DF sez set, so the correct MTU 
> is undetectable by PMTUD.
> 
> How can set set the MTU permanently?

How about: ifconfig eth0 mtu 1484

[coLinux-users] wubi

[James M. <ja...@ma...>]

Is it possible (for someone who is quite inexperienced with coLinux, 
really) to
install Ubuntu 8.04 to a file on NTFS using WUBI, and then use coLinux to
run it?

Should I just andLinux?  (Not sure how happy I am with the 'run as root' 
setup
it seems to use)

James

Re: [coLinux-users] Colinux without adminstrator

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(Paolo Minazzi)

>> Fortunatly yes :) But i'd like to know why we have to install this
>> driver. Is it because perf reason ? or just because colinux access
>> to a very low level system and Windows don't accept that so we setup
>> a driver to access to this memory ??

>Yes,  colinux needs to access to some low-level, for example setting
>page-tables.
>It is not possibile use it without the driver.
>What you need is a win32 of uml, or umlwin32.
>But I don't know if it is usable. And it is not updated.

Would'nt be "bochs" helpfull?
AFAIR it emulates every command, not needing the native CPU.
QEMU is similar.

I assume wikipedia will list them all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_virtual_machines


Oooops- CoLinux has a GUI?


>> Yes, that works but if your are not administrator and he don't want
>> you use colinux, you can't :/

>I know. But for now we don't have other way.

The administator needs only to install the driver.

Rainer

Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

I found out myself. Just run msconfig from windows and disable the
auto-starting of Xming and KDE Launcher. Reboot and run andLinux
service. ssh into colinux and run following:

apt-get remove kde
and then
apt-get autoremove

All KDE utils will be removed and some 450MB space would be freed. KDE
is now gone completely.

Open /etc/profile and comment the following lines:

#export DISPLAY=192.168.11.1:0.0
#export ESPEAKER=192.168.11.1:16001
#export PULSE_SERVER=192.168.11.1

Now you are all set for a putty(or other remote clients)-based console
only system.

Asif

On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
> Okay it is quite straight-forward. With putty, I ssh'd to
> 192.168.11.150 and it gave me the login prompt. It could not log me in
> because for root, there was no password. So I set a password and now I
> access colinux using putty.
>
> Can someone tell me how do I remove the X stuff, from both windows and
> linux side?
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Asif Iqbal <aiq...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hello Paolo
>>
>> I think I would get rid of X completely as I do not need it. Instead
>> of console-nt, I better go for Putty. :-) This is a good suggestion.
>>
>> So, if I want to uninstall desktop managers, etc, should I just issue:
>>
>> apt-get remove xserver-xorg gdm
>>
>> as we generally do in Ubuntu or is there some other procedure? I do
>> not want to lose the existing installation as I have already compiled
>> and installed quite some stuff in it.
>> In addition, how can I connect with Putty to the running
>> colinux-daemon instance. I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not
>> of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server,
>> right?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Asif
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=)
>>>
>>> An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example).
>>> So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste ....
>>>
>>> My advice is to don't use KDE of X ...
>>> If you need a console there are good solution.
>>>
>>> The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If
>>> you can avoid it ....
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Paolo
>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] coLinux and/or xp sp3 oddness with MAC address on eth devices

[Paolo M. <pao...@gm...>]

> One of the first things I tried to do after installing all teh drivers,
> etc.. was get coLinux working again. Attempting to bring up the 0.7.2 I
> had running before caused immediate reboot.

This problem has been solved.
Probably it is possible have to different beaviours :
1) some people have freeze of the system
2) some people have a fast rebbot

This is the endless fault. It is solved in 0.7.3.

Bye,
Paolo

Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Paolo M. <pao...@gm...>]

> I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not
> of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server,
> right?
>
> Thanks
> Asif

It is OK. You don't need the DISPLAY variable.
Putty is launched from windows side and know nothing about colinux variables.

Bye,
Paolo

Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

Okay it is quite straight-forward. With putty, I ssh'd to
192.168.11.150 and it gave me the login prompt. It could not log me in
because for root, there was no password. So I set a password and now I
access colinux using putty.

Can someone tell me how do I remove the X stuff, from both windows and
linux side?

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Asif Iqbal <aiq...@gm...> wrote:
> Hello Paolo
>
> I think I would get rid of X completely as I do not need it. Instead
> of console-nt, I better go for Putty. :-) This is a good suggestion.
>
> So, if I want to uninstall desktop managers, etc, should I just issue:
>
> apt-get remove xserver-xorg gdm
>
> as we generally do in Ubuntu or is there some other procedure? I do
> not want to lose the existing installation as I have already compiled
> and installed quite some stuff in it.
> In addition, how can I connect with Putty to the running
> colinux-daemon instance. I think $DISPLAY variable under linux is not
> of much help here as Putty will act as a client and not as server,
> right?
>
> Thanks
> Asif
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>> Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=)
>>
>> An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example).
>> So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste ....
>>
>> My advice is to don't use KDE of X ...
>> If you need a console there are good solution.
>>
>> The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If
>> you can avoid it ....
>>
>> Bye,
>> Paolo
>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

Hello Henry

Thanks for the useful info. Yes you are right, andLinux is 0.73 based
but anyway I installed 0.7.3-20080524 as suggested by Paolo. The
problem is still there. So it is essentially a KDE issue which, to my
understanding as well, is  somehow related to a bit non-deterministic
TAP link.

Swap is working and the kernel otherwise is solid.

Regards,


On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Henry Nestler <Hen...@ar...> wrote:
> Hello Asif,
>
> yes, 0.7.3 is a better choice for you. Download it from the
> http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ and run the exe-Installer. Intstall it
> directly over the old path (c:\andLinux or c:\program files\andLinux).
> But, if I'm right, then andLinux has also 0.7.3-rc3 the release
> candidate. There the startup crash was fixed.
>
> After any new coLinux installation remeber to update the modules! Copy
> the modules file to some place, where you have an access with cofs
> mounted windows directory and run such command inside coLinux:
>
>  tar xzf "Path/name/file...modules.tgz" -C /
>
> Paolo is fighting with kernel crash. Asif, you have an application
> crash. This can be a problem with loosing network.
> If you was running ones the 0.8.0, then you need to remove all the udev
> entries from file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, after a
> coLinux reboot the netwotk should work again.
>
> Asif, also check your free memory. Is the swap file working? If some
> full, then incrase the "mem=..." or incrase the swap file.
>
> Asif Iqbal wrote:
>> After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a
>> crash, these messages are displayed:
>>
>> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10
>> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop
>>
>> If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or
>> so, it recovers itself and prints this message:
>> konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed
>>
>> Now, is there some possibility of solving it?
>>
>> On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that
>> konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not
>> allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing.
>>
>> Asif
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem.
>>> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is
>>> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole
>>> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop
>>>
>>> I did use:
>>> collinux-daemon --remove driver
>>> collinux-daemon --install driver
>>>
>>> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages.
>>>
>>> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested.
>>>
>>> Asif
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> 1)
>>>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3.
>>>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following :
>>>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/
>>>>
>>>> Download this version.
>>>> The only file that you DON'T need is the
>>>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files.
>>>>
>>>> Before try the new one, remember to use
>>>> collinux-daemon --remove driver
>>>> collinux-daemon --install driver
>>>> It is very important.
>>>>
>>>> 2)
>>>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem
>>>> There are two kind of problems:
>>>> - kernel problems
>>>> - application problems
>>>>
>>>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable.
>>>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a
>>>> freeze of the PC.
>>>>
>>>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC.
>>>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better.
>>>>
>>>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the
>>>> distribution, that is all the user space programs.
>>>>
>>>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux.
>>>> Is the network connection is OK ?
>>>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice.
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Paolo
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the
>>>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other
>>>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till
>>>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes
>>>>> up nevertheless.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
>>>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
>>>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
>>>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can I get the logs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
>>>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
>>>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
>>>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
>>>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
>>>>>>> I only use the console-nt.
>>>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
>>>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
>>>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If yes, send the log.
>>>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
>>>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello Paolo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>>>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>>>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>>>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>>>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>>>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>>>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>>>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>>>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>>>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>>>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>>>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>>>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>>>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>>>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>>>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>>>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Asif
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>>>>>>>> some kernel configuration.
>>>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>>>>>>>> Can you post a log ?
>>>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any help??
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Paolo M. <pao...@gm...>]

Why don't you use the console-nt ? it is not so bad :=)

An other idea is to use a telnet program (putty for example).
So you have resizing, fonts, copy/paste ....

My advice is to don't use KDE of X ...
If you need a console there are good solution.

The idea under unix is to keep things simple. KDE is not simple, If
you can avoid it ....

Bye,
Paolo

Re: [coLinux-users] BOT 3.0 default setting?

[<Use...@zo...>]

Sorry got wrong list.

Rainer

[coLinux-users] BOT 3.0 default setting?

[<Use...@zo...>]

Hello


BOT 3.0 (block outgoing traffic) got a significant increase in features.
I was really impressed! Good work.
It now looks like a general purpose iptables GUI frontend

Activatinge BOT 3.0 will disable all traffic from/to alle interfaces 
except GREEN:445. "Ugly" if one is working reomtely...
Too there is no "commit", so it is impossible to do a "salvage" a
lockout by rebooting the box or a timeout until the "commit" should have
happened.


My question:

Does someone have a BOT default config, which let IPcop react as default,
like BOT 2.x did?
It would be for IPcops intented SOHO Hiend-user easier to start 
than from scratch, and to be locked out in the first attempt...


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[coLinux-users] How set MTU and txlen?

[<Use...@zo...>]

Hello

I ran into  the problem, that a "funny hub" on the way between
an SDSL and an ADSL Interface allows only an MTU of 1484!
That "funny hub" (maybe a hidden tunnel) fagments every paket which 
is greater than 1484 into a first paket of unusual 1000 bytes but
is not generating ICMP when DF sez set, so the correct MTU 
is undetectable by PMTUD.

How can set set the MTU permanently?

To my surprise i can set MTU only for IPsec, Why? What could be a usefull
application for a virtual device like ipsec0 not to use 16K?


But "PPoE" settings does not have such a field and no ethernets have.
Why?

How is the "intended" way to set other MTUs in IPcop fpr eth and PPPoE?

Why ist the TX length of PPPoE only 3? That value origins from old time
of ISDN an modens, or?Rainer---<=====>                         Vertraulich
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[coLinux-users] coLinux and/or xp sp3 oddness with MAC address on eth devices

[Jason <ja...@co...>]

I'm posting this as an advisory/hint to anyone having problems with 
0.8.0 and xp sp3. Due to the sequence of events, I don't know if it's 
the 0.8.0 release, or the sp3, or an interaction between them that made 
this happen. Based on a note I found in the readme, I suspect it's a 
behaviour chane in 0.8.0.

I formated my XP system today and brought it back up as XP sp3.

One of the first things I tried to do after installing all teh drivers, 
etc.. was get coLinux working again. Attempting to bring up the 0.7.2 I 
had running before caused immediate reboot.

So I decided to take the next step, figuring sp3 oddness, so I 
downloaded a 0.8.0 snapshot.

I brought up the coLinux from a CMD window without a problem. Everything 
worked great. So I shut it down, installed as a service, and started it 
up again.

eth0 failed to start. I shut it down, brought it up from CMD again, no 
problem. Shut down, start the service. eth0 failed. Looking at it, I 
could see an eth1.

The more astute out there probably know where this is going already.

Looking around a bit I found a hint for Debian to modify the rules that 
udev uses for persistent numbering. Unfortunatly, the debian advice 
didn't work for me (I use Gentoo) and commenting out the contents of the 
file just generated and eth3 and eth4 in my testing.

It was then taht I noticed the MAC address was different on eth0 and 
eth1 in the file, and each MAC was duplicated in eth3 and eth4.

*light over head*

So, it seems that starting up coLinux 0.8.0 on XP SP3 from CMD and from 
service cause different MAC addresses to be generated. I modified the 
rules file so that what was being identified as 'eth1' would be 'eth0' 
(removed the old eth0. Don't know what would happen if two MACs were 
both set to eth0 in the file).

Started the service, and it worked.

Re: [coLinux-users] Networking and run-as-service user account issues

[Henry N. <Hen...@Ar...>]

Jason Alonso schrieb:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm running 0.8.0 with a custom genkernel-built kernel, upgraded from
> 0.7.3 (actually the first snapshot that didn't require XML
> configuration), upgraded from a version number I've since forgotten.
> (This image has been running for a while).  The host is WinXP Pro.
> 
> I'm now experiencing a phenomenon in that I need to have
> colinux-daemon run as my personal account in order to have network
> access (tuntap).  When launched from the command line, the network
> devices connect just fine.  When launched as a service, all of the
> relevant daemons appear to be present and running as SYSTEM, but the
> coLinux system doesn't detect the network devices, though it otherwise
> boots the image.  I reconfigured the service from the Windows
> management console to run under my account instead of SYSTEM, and it
> boots fine, though I haven't gone the extra step of trying to get the
> service to start on system boot, whereupon I expect I still need to
> add NPF and PCAP service dependencies.
> 
> I'd like to get this running as SYSTEM again... what am I doing wrong?

You would see your network ethX with command "cat /proc/net/dev".

Please read the section "Upgrading from coLinux 0.7.2 and before"
carefully on http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/devel-RUNNING

You needs to remove all entries from
/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules
Than reboot to have eth0 again.

It is a badly because 0.8.0 has udev working and an other network
adapter stays in the persistend file as eth0. Then udev renames it to
next network for example eth1 or more.

-- 
Henry N.

[coLinux-users] Networking and run-as-service user account issues

[Jason A. <ja...@ha...>]

Hello,

I'm running 0.8.0 with a custom genkernel-built kernel, upgraded from
0.7.3 (actually the first snapshot that didn't require XML
configuration), upgraded from a version number I've since forgotten.
(This image has been running for a while).  The host is WinXP Pro.

I'm now experiencing a phenomenon in that I need to have
colinux-daemon run as my personal account in order to have network
access (tuntap).  When launched from the command line, the network
devices connect just fine.  When launched as a service, all of the
relevant daemons appear to be present and running as SYSTEM, but the
coLinux system doesn't detect the network devices, though it otherwise
boots the image.  I reconfigured the service from the Windows
management console to run under my account instead of SYSTEM, and it
boots fine, though I haven't gone the extra step of trying to get the
service to start on system boot, whereupon I expect I still need to
add NPF and PCAP service dependencies.

I'd like to get this running as SYSTEM again... what am I doing wrong?

Regards,
Jason

Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Henry N. <Hen...@Ar...>]

Hello Asif,

yes, 0.7.3 is a better choice for you. Download it from the
http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ and run the exe-Installer. Intstall it
directly over the old path (c:\andLinux or c:\program files\andLinux).
But, if I'm right, then andLinux has also 0.7.3-rc3 the release
candidate. There the startup crash was fixed.

After any new coLinux installation remeber to update the modules! Copy
the modules file to some place, where you have an access with cofs
mounted windows directory and run such command inside coLinux:

  tar xzf "Path/name/file...modules.tgz" -C /

Paolo is fighting with kernel crash. Asif, you have an application
crash. This can be a problem with loosing network.
If you was running ones the 0.8.0, then you need to remove all the udev
entries from file /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules, after a
coLinux reboot the netwotk should work again.

Asif, also check your free memory. Is the swap file working? If some
full, then incrase the "mem=..." or incrase the swap file.

Asif Iqbal wrote:
> After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a
> crash, these messages are displayed:
> 
> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10
> konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop
> 
> If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or
> so, it recovers itself and prints this message:
> konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed
> 
> Now, is there some possibility of solving it?
> 
> On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that
> konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not
> allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing.
> 
> Asif
> 
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem.
>> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is
>> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole
>> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop
>>
>> I did use:
>> collinux-daemon --remove driver
>> collinux-daemon --install driver
>>
>> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages.
>>
>> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested.
>>
>> Asif
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 1)
>>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3.
>>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following :
>>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/
>>>
>>> Download this version.
>>> The only file that you DON'T need is the
>>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files.
>>>
>>> Before try the new one, remember to use
>>> collinux-daemon --remove driver
>>> collinux-daemon --install driver
>>> It is very important.
>>>
>>> 2)
>>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem
>>> There are two kind of problems:
>>> - kernel problems
>>> - application problems
>>>
>>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable.
>>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a
>>> freeze of the PC.
>>>
>>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC.
>>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better.
>>>
>>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the
>>> distribution, that is all the user space programs.
>>>
>>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux.
>>> Is the network connection is OK ?
>>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice.
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the
>>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other
>>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till
>>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes
>>>> up nevertheless.
>>>>
>>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
>>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
>>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
>>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I get the logs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Asif
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
>>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
>>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
>>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
>>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
>>>>>> I only use the console-nt.
>>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
>>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
>>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, send the log.
>>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
>>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello Paolo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> Asif
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>>>>>>> some kernel configuration.
>>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>>>>>>> Can you post a log ?
>>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have tried:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any help??
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

After couple of more crashes, I think I can confirm that before a
crash, these messages are displayed:

kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 10
konsole: WARNING: Unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop

If I leave the system in this hungup state, then after half an hour or
so, it recovers itself and prints this message:
konsole: Fatal IO error: client killed

Now, is there some possibility of solving it?

On another note: I am no ardent fan of KDE, the only thing is that
konsole is much better than rigid fltk colinux console which does not
allow any copy/paste, no re-scaling, nothing.

Asif

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
> Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem.
> Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is
> a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole
> is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop
>
> I did use:
> collinux-daemon --remove driver
> collinux-daemon --install driver
>
> before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages.
>
> I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested.
>
> Asif
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 1)
>> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3.
>> I think that the most stable version for now is the following :
>> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/
>>
>> Download this version.
>> The only file that you DON'T need is the
>> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files.
>>
>> Before try the new one, remember to use
>> collinux-daemon --remove driver
>> collinux-daemon --install driver
>> It is very important.
>>
>> 2)
>> It is important the you understand the type of the problem
>> There are two kind of problems:
>> - kernel problems
>> - application problems
>>
>> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable.
>> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a
>> freeze of the PC.
>>
>> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC.
>> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better.
>>
>> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the
>> distribution, that is all the user space programs.
>>
>> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux.
>> Is the network connection is OK ?
>> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Paolo
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the
>>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other
>>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till
>>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes
>>> up nevertheless.
>>>
>>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is?
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
>>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
>>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.
>>>>
>>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
>>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?
>>>>
>>>> How can I get the logs?
>>>>
>>>> Asif
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
>>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
>>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
>>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
>>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
>>>>> I only use the console-nt.
>>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
>>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
>>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>>>>>
>>>>> If yes, send the log.
>>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
>>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye,
>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Paolo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Asif
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>>>>>> some kernel configuration.
>>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>>>>>> Can you post a log ?
>>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help??
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft
>>>>>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008.
>>>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>> coL...@li...
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

Thanks for the guidelines. I think it is an application problem.
Please have a look at the attached screenshot after the hangup. It is
a continuation of the one that I sent before. It reports that konsole
is unable to use /usr/share/apps/konsole/screen.desktop

I did use:
collinux-daemon --remove driver
collinux-daemon --install driver

before starting 0.80. And these commands showed some normal messages.

I shall now download 0.7.3 as you suggested.

Asif



On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> 1)
> The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3.
> I think that the most stable version for now is the following :
> http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/
>
> Download this version.
> The only file that you DON'T need is the
> daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files.
>
> Before try the new one, remember to use
> collinux-daemon --remove driver
> collinux-daemon --install driver
> It is very important.
>
> 2)
> It is important the you understand the type of the problem
> There are two kind of problems:
> - kernel problems
> - application problems
>
> If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable.
> In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a
> freeze of the PC.
>
> If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC.
> The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better.
>
> I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the
> distribution, that is all the user space programs.
>
> *I think* your problem is not related to colinux.
> Is the network connection is OK ?
> Try the base system without X .... this is my advice.
>
> Bye,
> Paolo
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the
>> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other
>> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till
>> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes
>> up nevertheless.
>>
>> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is?
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
>>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
>>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.
>>>
>>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
>>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?
>>>
>>> How can I get the logs?
>>>
>>> Asif
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
>>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
>>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
>>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
>>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
>>>> I only use the console-nt.
>>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
>>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
>>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>>>>
>>>> If yes, send the log.
>>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
>>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Paolo
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Paolo
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>>>>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>>>>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Asif
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>>>>> some kernel configuration.
>>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>>>>> Can you post a log ?
>>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help??
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Paolo M. <pao...@gm...>]

Hi,

1)
The 0.8.0 seems to work OK, but if want stability, my advice is to use 0.7.3.
I think that the most stable version for now is the following :
http://www.henrynestler.com/colinux/testing/stable-0.7.3/20080524-Snapshot/packages/

Download this version.
The only file that you DON'T need is the
daemons-0.7.3-20080524.dbg.zip , please download others 3 files.

Before try the new one, remember to use
collinux-daemon --remove driver
collinux-daemon --install driver
It is very important.

2)
It is important the you understand the type of the problem
There are two kind of problems:
- kernel problems
- application problems

If you have a kernel problem, your PC becames non stable.
In some case a problem in colinux kernel can bring a reboot or a
freeze of the PC.

If you have an application problem you have the stability of your PC.
The problem is that you application uder colinux doesn't work better.

I remember you that colinux is the kernel while andLinux is the
distribution, that is all the user space programs.

*I think* your problem is not related to colinux.
Is the network connection is OK ?
Try the base system without X .... this is my advice.

Bye,
Paolo

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
> Okay I downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe and installed it in the
> same folder as andLinux. It overwrote the colinux-daemon.exe and other
> files. Afterwards I restarted the service. Things seem to be okay till
> now. Here is a screenshot when I run "konsole". But the konsole comes
> up nevertheless.
>
> Any hint on how can I get the log once it crashes, if it does that is?
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>> It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
>> answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
>> colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.
>>
>> I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
>> can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?
>>
>> How can I get the logs?
>>
>> Asif
>>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
>>> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
>>> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
>>> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
>>> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>>>
>>> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
>>> I only use the console-nt.
>>> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
>>> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
>>> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>>>
>>> If yes, send the log.
>>> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
>>> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>> Hello Paolo
>>>>
>>>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>>>
>>>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>>>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>>>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>>>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>>>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>>>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>>>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>>>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>>>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>>>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>>>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>>>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>>>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>>>
>>>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>>>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>>>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>>>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>>>> tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>>>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Asif
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>>>
>>>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>>>> some kernel configuration.
>>>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>>>> Can you post a log ?
>>>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye,
>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help??
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

It just crashed again and there is no information on fltk console. To
answer your question, I do not remember any crash occurrences using
colinux console. On the other hand, I do not use it that often.

I have downloaded devel-coLinux-20080511.exe. Could you tell me how
can I upgrade the existing one? Should I just run the setup?

How can I get the logs?

Asif

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
> My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
> 0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
> Get the new version and remember to use the following :
> colinux-daemon --remove-driver
> colinux-daemon --install-driver
>
> I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
> I only use the console-nt.
> Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
> This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
> colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.
>
> If yes, send the log.
> Or the problem appear only using KDE?
> We need some information, screenshoot, log ....
>
> Bye,
> Paolo
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>> Hello Paolo
>>
>> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>>
>> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
>> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
>> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
>> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
>> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
>> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
>> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
>> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
>> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
>> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
>> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
>> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
>> hangup again after some unknown period.
>>
>> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
>> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
>> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
>> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
>> stays between 0 to 4%.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Asif
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>>
>>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>>> some kernel configuration.
>>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>>
>>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>>> Can you post a log ?
>>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>>
>>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Paolo
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried:
>>>>
>>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>>> and
>>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>>> and
>>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>>
>>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>>
>>>> Any help??
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Paolo M. <pao...@gm...>]

My advice is to download the last version of colinux.
0.7.2 has a bug that can crush your PC at startup.
Get the new version and remember to use the following :
colinux-daemon --remove-driver
colinux-daemon --install-driver

I'd like to understand if the problem is about KDE.
I only use the console-nt.
Have you problem using only the standard console (the console-nt)?
This is very important, so we can understand if the problem is in
colinux or is in the distribution andLinux.

If yes, send the log.
Or the problem appear only using KDE?
We need some information, screenshoot, log ....

Bye,
Paolo

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
> Hello Paolo
>
> Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.
>
> The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
> use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
> windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
> it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
> the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
> not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
> etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
> same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
> I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
> cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
> minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
> tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
> hangup again after some unknown period.
>
> It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
> Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
> the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
> colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
> tomorrow.
>
> And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
> stays between 0 to 4%.
>
> Thanks.
> Asif
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
>> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
>> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>>
>> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
>> some kernel configuration.
>> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
>> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
>> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>>
>> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
>> Can you post a log ?
>> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
>> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
>> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>>
>> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>>
>> Bye,
>> Paolo
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>>
>>> I have tried:
>>>
>>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>>> and
>>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>>> and
>>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>>
>>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>>
>>> Any help??
>>> Thanks.
>>>
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Re: [coLinux-users] Colinux without adminstrator

[Henry N. <Hen...@Ar...>]

Rainer Zocholl wrote:
> Julien Langlois wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking for a way to run Colinux on a machine without a
>> administrator installation. I read the FAQ
>> (http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/CoLinux_FAQ#Q0._Do_I_need_Administrator
>> _rights_on_my_Windows_computer_.3F) 
>> and it appear it's not possible
>> ... But i'd like to know why ?
> 
> [...]
>> I'm really sorry if my questions are stupid but i'm not familiar with
>> the Windows process behaviour so i'm not sure to understand what is a
>> "low level" process.
> 
> "low level" has direct access to all hardware for example.
> Direct Access to hardware is not possible for "user", they MUS use
> a driver which controls the access rights.

With "low level" here means the cpu "ring 0" there the coLinux kernel
runs. CoLinux is not an emulation and not a virtualisation of a cpu.
Colinux use the cpu and needs to have full access to all registers on
your cpu. That only can do, if an administrator has installed the
lowlevel (ring 0) driver.

-- 
Henry N.

Re: [coLinux-users] Colinux without adminstrator

[<Use...@zo...>]

jul...@gm...(Julien Langlois)  29.05.08 10:17

>Hi,

>I'm looking for a way to run Colinux on a machine without a
>administrator installation. I read the FAQ
>(http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/CoLinux_FAQ#Q0._Do_I_need_Administrator
>_rights_on_my_Windows_computer_.3F) 
>and it appear it's not possible
>... But i'd like to know why ?

>If i understand correctly, Colinux need an administrator to install
>the Colinux driver (monitor) which is used to run a low level process
>in Windows.

Yes.

>So what does that mean ? That mean if you are not the administrator,
>you can't run a low level process ? 

No. You can't install ist, but you can start it, if installed by an admin.

>So is there possible to run Colinux as a high level process ?

If your admin installed the driver: yes.

>I'm really sorry if my questions are stupid but i'm not familiar with
>the Windows process behaviour so i'm not sure to understand what is a
>"low level" process.

"low level" has direct access to all hardware for example.
Direct Access to hardware is not possible for "user", they MUS use
a driver which controls the access rights.

Rainer

Re: [coLinux-users] Killing colinux-daemon.exe

[Asif I. <a....@ie...>]

Hello Paolo

Thats a good suggestion. I am willing to take part in debugging the issue.

The hangup always occurs, being just a matter of sooner or later. I
use "konsole" and it is konsole that stops responding and then the
windows is suddenly killed by itself. If I open the colinux console,
it is stuck on some message, which unfortunately I do not recall at
the moment. It is to the tune of "Sending xxx char to ....". It does
not matter if I attach/detach, reboot, shutdown, kill the service,
etc. Whenever I attach the colinux console, it always displays the
same message. It is always the same story. After many futile efforts,
I try to forget about the stuff and engage in some other work as I
cannot afford to restart the machine that often. Then after some 15-20
minutes, when I look again, the colinux-daemon.exe is not found in the
tasklist. Then I start the service and everything works, only to
hangup again after some unknown period.

It is andLinux distro with KDE, though I only use "konsole".
Tomorrow when I go to my office, I shall post the actual messages from
the colinux console. I am also willing to run your supplied
colinux-daemon.exe. But first let me tell you the version of it
tomorrow.

And yes one more thing, the cpu does not go to 100% during hangup, it
stays between 0 to 4%.

Thanks.
Asif

On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Paolo Minazzi <pao...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
> in my opinion the best thing that you can do is to help to trace the problem.
> It is better understand the problem and solve it.
> Kill the daemon is only a work-around.
>
> In this moment I'm searching with Henry a bug that arise when I change
> some kernel configuration.
> If I had the oop (the crash) I have your same problem. I cannot kill
> the colinux-daemon. And I cannot close cleanly WindowsXp.
> My colinux-daemon is at 99% of the CPU.
>
> It is very interesting know what exacly is your problem.
> Can you post a log ?
> If you want to help us, I can send you a particular version of
> colinux-debug-daemon that help us to trace the problem.
> It is interesting know if I and you have the same problem.
>
> I don't know any way to kill the daemon ....
>
> Bye,
> Paolo
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Asif Iqbal <a....@ie...> wrote:
>> At times my colinux 0.72 hangs under XP. I stop the service which only
>> stops after quite some time. Then colinux-daemon.exe stays running in
>> the task list. I try, in all possible ways, to kill colinux-daemon.exe
>> but it simply doesn't get killed.
>>
>> I have tried:
>>
>> taskkill /im colinux-daemon.exe /f
>> and
>> taskkill /F /FI "SERVICES eq andLinux"
>> and
>> taskkill /F /FI "IMAGENAME eq colinux-daemon.exe"
>>
>> It says SUCCCESS: Process with PID XXXX terminated. But there it is in
>> the task list driving me crazy.
>>
>> Any help??
>> Thanks.
>>
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