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From: Mike M. <mme...@na...> - 2010-08-02 16:40:14
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Hello everyone, I wanted to write a custom installer for Nagios running under coLinux. This worked great... although the tap adapter doesn't operate. I was wondering if I could seek some assistance from an nsis developer? I'd also wonder if this was common for networking to not function, unless you used Slirp? After researching Slirp I'm thinking it should have been my first choice. Never the less it would be grand if my first attempt could be working. I'm able to ping Windows from coLinux, but Windows dose not attempt to arp or ping back. Most odd, tcpdump under colinux shows only it's own traffic and ping replies. I'm using ipv4ll for the tap interface on the windows side and a static 169.254 address in coLinux . Attached are my config files. |
From: frank k. <zzh...@gm...> - 2010-07-31 15:34:58
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Hello sirs, Colinux: 0.7.7.1 <https://sourceforge.net/projects/colinux/files/coLinux-stable/0.7.7.1-linux -2.6.26.8> I have trouble on running colinux on thinkpad X200, which has integrated display card(from Intel). The OS is Windows 7,and every time I start colinux, it will cause the system hang: no response for mouse, keyboard; the screen will become black. If I disable the display card, Colinux will start correctly and works well. Would you please tell me how to let it work well? I love colinux very much really, thanks! Regards, Frank |
From: Mike M. <mme...@na...> - 2010-07-18 16:51:15
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/10 04:52, Frank Church wrote: > > On 18 July 2010 01:57, Mike Mestnik <mme...@na... > <mailto:mme...@na...>> wrote: > > I'd love to offer Nagios Core up as an application that's easily > installable on a Windows Server. > > Currently we supply VMWare images and request that end users install > VMWAre player. The only visable advantage to using coLinux is providing > a single cohesive installer that would result with Nagios running as a > service. > > As the current deployment of OS images is interesting I find that this > is too advanced for my target audiance and chossing an OS image would be > confusing for some one installing an application. > > Is there a way I could rebuild the installer to suit my particular > needs? > > > >> I don't think it is necessary to rebuild the installer, unless you >> expect it to run with other VMs that also use coLinux. Copying the >> coLinux files into place, and installing the coLinux driver, via Thank you for this, I was going to try it ;) Now I can just concentrate on writing an installer for my applications. >> "colinux-daemon --install-driver" is enough. You would have to check >> though that the driver is not already in place. > Any plans to write a --check-install-driver option? Dosen't the current command have a status option, so there could be an easy batch file that would do this? >> You may also have to install WinPcap if you want to use the pcap-bridge >> but I use ndis-bridge as it is already in Windows. > >> As an aside, a target audience who need Nagios but can't install a >> VMWare need to get their act together. > Well visually this isn't vary transparent, it would be impossible to create a VMWare powered installer. Secondly long term when coLinux is production ready it may be allowed to exist as an application and driver in deployments where VMWare is explicitly forbidden. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first <http://sprint.com/first> -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first _______________________________________________ coLinux-users mailing list coL...@li... <mailto:coL...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > -- > Frank Church > ======================= > http://devblog.brahmancreations.com - -- Mike Mestnik Technical Team ___ Nagios Enterprises, LLC Email: mme...@na... Web: www.nagios.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMQzDwAAoJEBZ4N6PB2h+qjj4H/RtC5PXKGboI73/elsgZ4JKc gFgOpxk7xxf8ddmtikvcm1SRIoZnAWeadG9bviv1k3FaUhqa+oqHTU/+iZpjGLrq F2W2WzX7m0ymDVE1alujTdPoPekjhQuhXGMO8rjAkbqCbCmd8hDQxM3NJ7U5skWT uOCSpLpxS0KSb8nEK7oqGr0txUfpbpnU5gt5w8CpuIQ261sFEmiOBuQlz1APx5Vn f2Zbej9q1pAEvG4tPBOt83Wnz74sv1LW8yigAyg7pWTv9JyKrXX1rzWMMZi/EkHs GhryF1Cu4gE2F38fs8c6mlye20IGjmR/eqSsOSzb9KE492vQ8AnWo1AeAdFsSSw= =GEgt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Mike M. <mme...@na...> - 2010-07-18 00:57:49
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'd love to offer Nagios Core up as an application that's easily installable on a Windows Server. Currently we supply VMWare images and request that end users install VMWAre player. The only visable advantage to using coLinux is providing a single cohesive installer that would result with Nagios running as a service. As the current deployment of OS images is interesting I find that this is too advanced for my target audiance and chossing an OS image would be confusing for some one installing an application. Is there a way I could rebuild the installer to suit my particular needs? - -- Mike Mestnik Technical Team ___ Nagios Enterprises, LLC Email: mme...@na... Web: www.nagios.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMQlF8AAoJEBZ4N6PB2h+qZNYH/3nB1F7/v3g/ayXgu1GWSGIr Te4y6kSCKm9GXsXGlcnsTPg+T3uS7lSXsXQyIegSY5tgvJWVisDC5+aJl/vpB1qa RpgI5/nn0ZspZYroAK2vwckDjbNsmRaA8eBBTpvg2y5a34xYdDheMQOHC2Hsy7l+ n1bOtxUIrzvDmm+M/R9zQB2rxjdEWJKR3T+KsFLMBQHTAJVWOtspKgxtdzirjQup q2MvPpLLJVVYN8p69haauk2WknQLZNq4dpEg6wX0KyJ0GA0Q+7AQqDE9SjfNKXyY 0mSSx1dhgmmQ1BrOAXK22UXKVh5MDbrBaSbFR6MPivho5LOGaa3EXal7dq2zM6Y= =imBw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-07-02 21:54:05
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Cooperative Linux 0.7.7.1 released. Release: 0.7.7.1 Kernel: 2.6.26.8 Date: 2-July-2010 This is a bugfix release for a crash, if used memory does not bounding on 4MB. Please check the project file release and wiki for information, updates and progress. Downloads: http://sourceforge.net/projects/colinux/files/ ChangeLog: http://www.colinux.org/?section=status Wiki: http://colinux.wikia.com Snapshots: http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ Snapshots will store directly in the file release system on SourceForge now. The direct URL to such files is: http://sourceforge.net/projects/colinux/files/Snapshots/ -- Henry N. |
From: Dimitry G. <gol...@gm...> - 2010-06-16 23:49:53
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Henry, Thanks for your reply. Most of my concern was that something is disabled in the Starter edition by Microsoft, so CoLinux would not work properly. I'll definitely take a look at AnLinux. On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Henry Nestler <hen...@ar...> wrote: > Yes, of curse. coLinux needs very low recources and was running on my old > Windows XP with 256 MB RAM, and it is running on a netbook from Medion (Atom > CPU). So it should also run on these hardware. The internal disk with 16GB > is not very big. Maybe for the Linux filesystem you would need an extra > USB-Stick. > -- Dimitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-06-16 21:51:34
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Dimitry Golubovsky wrote: > Will CoLinux work on top of windows 7 starter edition? > > These days, touchscreen tablets are coming to market (Lenovo Ideapad > S10-3t, Asus EEE T91, etc), with hardware being not very > Linux-friendly yet. They all come with windows 7 starter edition. Yes, of curse. coLinux needs very low recources and was running on my old Windows XP with 256 MB RAM, and it is running on a netbook from Medion (Atom CPU). So it should also run on these hardware. The internal disk with 16GB is not very big. Maybe for the Linux filesystem you would need an extra USB-Stick. > I am developing a program to use on such touchscreen device, but would > not like to switch my development to windows. The program uses OpenGL > (not very graphics-intensive though) and also plays sounds via OSS. > > Will this work under CoLinux on Win 7 starter? Multitouch is not > really needed for this program; will touchscreen emulate mouse events? Yes. All Programs that don't know about Multitouch would get normal mouse events. The Xming or other X-Server for coLinux is a normal Windows program. As long your program runs on every X-Server, then it also will run on coLinux with Xming. I don't know how OpenGL is supported by Xming. For test you can run Xming (with option "-ac") on a Windows system and forward the DISPLAY via network to that, and run your program on Linux with output and mouse control on Windows. For the sound you need the network sound server. All this you will find in the anLinux (www.andlinux.org). -- Henry N. |
From: Dimitry G. <gol...@gm...> - 2010-06-16 12:48:06
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Hi, Will CoLinux work on top of windows 7 starter edition? These days, touchscreen tablets are coming to market (Lenovo Ideapad S10-3t, Asus EEE T91, etc), with hardware being not very Linux-friendly yet. They all come with windows 7 starter edition. I am developing a program to use on such touchscreen device, but would not like to switch my development to windows. The program uses OpenGL (not very graphics-intensive though) and also plays sounds via OSS. Will this work under CoLinux on Win 7 starter? Multitouch is not really needed for this program; will touchscreen emulate mouse events? Thanks. -- Dimitry Golubovsky Anywhere on the Web |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-06-01 21:47:43
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At 01.06.2010 22:39, mattias jonsson wrote: > I have asked it before > Wich type of network config should i use to be able to get a real ip > number from my isp > In colinux > I no i should not use slirp > Are bridging still possible? > Or should i use the other one i not remember the name now You need "pcap-bridge" or "ndis-bridge" in the coLinux config. Than install pppoe inside Linux and configure your provider. Be sure, that you can not use Internet on Windows side at same time. -- Henry N. |
From: mattias j. <mj...@mj...> - 2010-06-01 20:39:36
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I have asked it before Wich type of network config should i use to be able to get a real ip number from my isp In colinux I no i should not use slirp Are bridging still possible? Or should i use the other one i not remember the name now |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-05-31 18:33:41
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Eol wrote: > i'm using co-linux release 0.8. Today, i planned to updated my colinux, > but i notice that there's no more co-Linux 0.8 devel branch. Instead i > only find a 0.7.8 release. What happens to the 0.8 branch ? Sorry for some irritations. Mostly I have changed any of devel-0.8.0 to stable-0.7.4, stable-0.7.5, and stable-0.7.6 in past. For the version of 0.8.0 we couldn't see what this version exactly was, because all of they was labeled 0.8.0. Now, I give the pre-version the same version they would be become on release later. The different is, pre-versions or testings would have the SVN-Revision or any other prefix. The release version than is the same without any prefix. Here we have currently 0.7.8-r1455. This is the devel branch. That would some times go out as release candidate 0.7.8-rc1, and than finally released as 0.7.8. This should more clear to the users, that all 0.7.8-* would have the same features. The version 0.8.x is now reserved for new features, like the cofb (Framebuffer). -- Henry N. |
From: Eol <eol...@ho...> - 2010-05-31 11:27:24
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hi i'm using co-linux release 0.8. Today, i planned to updated my colinux, but i notice that there's no more co-Linux 0.8 devel branch. Instead i only find a 0.7.8 release. What happens to the 0.8 branch ? thx |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-05-23 18:57:54
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Cooperative Linux 0.7.7 released. Release: 0.7.7 Kernel: 2.6.26.8 Date: 23-May-2010 This is mainly a new kernel update. Please check the project file release and wiki for information, updates and progress. Downloads: http://sourceforge.net/projects/colinux/files/ ChangeLog: http://www.colinux.org/?section=status Wiki: http://colinux.wikia.com Snapshots: http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ ---- NEWS Console and daemons (Peter Kuznetsov): * New: "color=black,white" sets default color. * New: "cursor=1..99" sets cursor size of nt-console. * TAB as separator in command line args. * Suppress "<d>" KERN_DEFAULT and"<c>" KERN_CONT on daemon printk output. Kernel: * Version 2.6.26.8 o ext4fs enabled as module, backport patch 2.6.26-ext4-7 added. Please read about using ext4 in kernel 2.6.26: http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#For_people_who_are_running_Debian (Thanks Frédéric L. W. Meunier) o Squashfs 3.4, Unionfs 2.5.4, Cloop 2.628 * Version 2.6.25.20 * CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED: Disabled. Newer udev don't like it. (El Topo) * scsi: Fix "unhandled opcode 51" (GPCMD_READ_DISC_INFO) for DVD/CDROM. Buildsystem / sources: * Source format cleanup. (Peter Kuznetsov) * premaid.sh moved into bin directory. Updated tools: * binutils 2.19.1 PS: Kernel 2.6.33.4 will go into branch devel next days. Please watch the home page http://www.colinux.org/. -- Henry N. |
From: Frank C. <vfc...@go...> - 2010-05-19 23:30:18
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I have been getting problems disabling Checksum Offload in a lot of LAN adapters manually. Does setting the DisableTaskOffload, [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters] value in the registry disable all of the related parameters regardless of LAN card? ie is the use of the LAN adapter offload capabilities controlled by Windows itself? -- Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com |
From: Frank C. <vfc...@go...> - 2010-05-18 20:39:20
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Is it possible to do a forwarding from the LAN to localhost? I want to use forwarding to avoid having to use a bridging to access a port, ie to access it by slirp? Is it possible? -- Frank Church ======================= http://devblog.brahmancreations.com |
From: 樊朋 <122...@gm...> - 2010-05-12 00:50:59
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Thank you Henry.But it really works,with the support for vmdk files by modifying cobd.c. In the config file,i do this: cobd0="c:\a.vmdk root=/dev/cobd0p1" and in the cobd.c ,support 5 device numbers each cobd using "add_disk(5)". cobd0p1 means the first partition .a.vmdk is created by vmware and with ubuntu inside the first partition. I'll have a try inside the host side.To me ,a little difficult ,for i have no knowledge with windows programming. Thanks. |
From: Vincent R. <vin...@fr...> - 2010-05-11 16:54:05
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Henry Nestler wrote: > Next release candidate 0.7.7-rc1 is available from snapshot page under "stable branch". > http://www.colinux.org/snapshots/ This new version stable-coLinux-20100509.exe works well with Debian Testing, like devel-coLinux-20100305.exe. For memory, I was unable to start Debian Testing with coLinux-0.7.6.exe due to udev/devpts issues (retested once again). -- Vincent Rivière |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-05-10 20:35:57
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樊朋 wrote: > In the source code,i saw "alias=<path to image file>" | :cobdX > and the following example:"hda1=rootfs.img #(cobdX automaticly from > first free)" . If cobd0 is free,then hda1 is the same with cobd0. Does > alias name make any sense ? I'm a new-bie.@@. > > I have modified the "cobd.c" to support the vmdk file,but I haven't > resolve the "alias" problem, and do not support "async".Very > depressed. .@@. cobd.c is not the right place for decoding vmdk files. cobd are images without partition informations. A cobd image contains only a singe partition. That's why a cobd0 can be aliased as hda1, and cobd can use as hda2. But never you can use hda with partition tools ala "fdisk". VMDK is an image file over the whole disk, that starts with partition informations in the first sector (512 bytes). A block device with whole disk images under coLinux is the scsi driver. And last: Reading or writing VMDK is sometimes not linear. So, decoding the file positions should not do inside Linux kernel. This is more a work for the host side, to have less OS-switches between Linux and Windows. -- Henry N. |
From: Hari K. D. <har...@gm...> - 2010-05-10 18:18:49
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On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Henry Nestler <hen...@ar...> wrote: > Yes, Eric points into right direction. > > To use dnmasq, you need to disable DHCP and use static configuration for > SLiRP. Don't worry about addresses, because DHCP-Server inside SLiRP give > the guest the same address every time. So, static or DHCP does not matter. > http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/Network#SLiRP_with_Static_IP_Address > > In config of dnmasq you must set 10.0.2.3 and your DNS from VPN. > In static network configuration of SLiRP you should set "nameserver > localhost" in /etc/resolv.conf. > Thank you Eric and Henry, I got dnsmasq to work nicely with your suggestions. I simply updated /etc/resolve.conf to use 10.0.2.3 and my VPN nameservers (along with disabling dhcp on slirp) and that got lookups to work nicely for VPN. The domain search order is still not working, but it is still much better as I can now use names and not worry about changing ip addresses. Meanwhile, I also got cofs to work and now just learned that I could setup colinux to run off real partitions. This will make it easier to eventually migrate away from windows completely (not going to happen until we replace MS sql server, but we are getting there). -- Hari |
From: Henry N. <hen...@ar...> - 2010-05-10 08:31:33
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Eric S. Johansson wrote: > On 5/9/2010 9:24 PM, Hari Krishna Dara wrote: >> I added DNS servers ips from my vpn adapter to the /etc/resolve.conf >> along with my router's ip. I am able to ping to those name servers >> when my vpn is up (which BTW, I thought wouldn't work because slirp is >> not supposed to support ping). I suppose there is nothing that can be >> done on the windows side? Would adding additional NAMESERVER entries >> into the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 help (which I am >> not actually sure is valid). > I think you're hitting a problem I have hit a few times with open VPN. Forgive > me if I misinterpret your problem and solving something else entirely. > > DNS is built on the assumption that all name servers have the same data. > unfortunately, when you have a VPN, you no longer have this situation. Each name > server at the end of a VPN has a different set of names that you Can't access > via the public Internet. one would think that the normal round-robin feature of > most resolvers would help bridge the difference between the two name spaces but > no, many DNS proxies return the wrong response and prevent the round-robin > behavior from happening. > > This problem gets worse when you have two or three VPNs open at the same time. > No matter what name server you use, names without on the other VPNs will be > invisible. Unfortunately, the only answer seems to be a specialized DNS proxy > that associates a domain with a name server plus the default of "on the Internet". > > I've tried using dnmasq to solve this problem because it has the right > capabilities but unfortunately, every time DHCP renews lease, the DNS name > server entry is overridden and you lose your local changes. I'm sure there's a > way around it but, I'm not sure how just yet. Yes, Eric points into right direction. To use dnmasq, you need to disable DHCP and use static configuration for SLiRP. Don't worry about addresses, because DHCP-Server inside SLiRP give the guest the same address every time. So, static or DHCP does not matter. http://colinux.wikia.com/wiki/Network#SLiRP_with_Static_IP_Address In config of dnmasq you must set 10.0.2.3 and your DNS from VPN. In static network configuration of SLiRP you should set "nameserver localhost" in /etc/resolv.conf. -- Henry N. |
From: 樊朋 <122...@gm...> - 2010-05-10 06:56:11
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In the source code,i saw "alias=<path to image file>" | :cobdX and the following example:"hda1=rootfs.img #(cobdX automaticly from first free)" . If cobd0 is free,then hda1 is the same with cobd0. Does alias name make any sense ? I'm a new-bie.@@. I have modified the "cobd.c" to support the vmdk file,but I haven't resolve the "alias" problem, and do not support "async".Very depressed. .@@. -- I believe I can |
From: Paolo M. <pao...@gm...> - 2010-05-10 06:34:51
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on vmware I'm sure it works ok. paolo On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Frank Church <vfc...@go...> wrote: > Is it possible to run coLinux on a Windows sytem running as VM, such > VirtualBox or EC2? > > -- > Frank Church > > ======================= > http://devblog.brahmancreations.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-users mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-users > > |
From: Eric S. J. <es...@ha...> - 2010-05-10 03:08:59
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On 5/9/2010 9:24 PM, Hari Krishna Dara wrote: > > I added DNS servers ips from my vpn adapter to the /etc/resolve.conf > along with my router's ip. I am able to ping to those name servers > when my vpn is up (which BTW, I thought wouldn't work because slirp is > not supposed to support ping). I suppose there is nothing that can be > done on the windows side? Would adding additional NAMESERVER entries > into the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 help (which I am > not actually sure is valid). I think you're hitting a problem I have hit a few times with open VPN. Forgive me if I misinterpret your problem and solving something else entirely. DNS is built on the assumption that all name servers have the same data. unfortunately, when you have a VPN, you no longer have this situation. Each name server at the end of a VPN has a different set of names that you Can't access via the public Internet. one would think that the normal round-robin feature of most resolvers would help bridge the difference between the two name spaces but no, many DNS proxies return the wrong response and prevent the round-robin behavior from happening. This problem gets worse when you have two or three VPNs open at the same time. No matter what name server you use, names without on the other VPNs will be invisible. Unfortunately, the only answer seems to be a specialized DNS proxy that associates a domain with a name server plus the default of "on the Internet". I've tried using dnmasq to solve this problem because it has the right capabilities but unfortunately, every time DHCP renews lease, the DNS name server entry is overridden and you lose your local changes. I'm sure there's a way around it but, I'm not sure how just yet. --- eric |
From: Hari K. D. <har...@gm...> - 2010-05-10 01:24:39
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On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Henry Nestler <hen...@ar...> wrote: >> I can't believe I missed to see this information already documented, >> thanks for pointing it out. I can see that I am able to access both >> internet and VPN via slirp. However, there are a few issues: >> - Name resolution is not working well. I can't resolve names over VPN >> (even after adding my VPN name servers to /etc/resolve.conf file) and >> a few others that can be resolved from WXP (e.g., names in my local >> network). > > SLiRP use only the first nameserver from Windows and forwards it under > 10.0.2.3. So, it is a good idea, to add more nameserver's in > /etc/resolve.conf manualy. For me, it works in special environment with DNS > server on intranet (closed DNS, not Internet) it was ok. Not explicitly > tested for a VPN. I added DNS servers ips from my vpn adapter to the /etc/resolve.conf along with my router's ip. I am able to ping to those name servers when my vpn is up (which BTW, I thought wouldn't work because slirp is not supposed to support ping). I suppose there is nothing that can be done on the windows side? Would adding additional NAMESERVER entries into the /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 help (which I am not actually sure is valid). > >> - I have my tuntap adapter getting registered as the default gateway, >> so at first nothing worked. Only when I added the slirp gateway as the >> default gateway and removed the tuntap gateway from being the default, >> the internet even started worked. Is there a better solution for this >> than putting the route commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local file? > > Don't set any gateway for TAP. > > TAP is a private network between Linux and host and not need a default > gateway. The route for this network will automatically set after the > interface will coming up. > > That means, don't set gateway in file /etc/network/interfaces for tap device > under Debian. > > PS: In some docs a gateway was set, because TAP device was used as "Internet > connect sharing" (ICS). > >> On a side note, I also notice that tuntap adapter started becoming my >> default gateway on XP side as well, not sure what is causing this. May >> be a reboot will fix it. > > I hope the TAP has an other network range as all your other networks > (Ethernet cards and Wi-Fi). And the same as under Linux: Don't set a route > or gateway for TAP device. Great, these two changes got me the right gateway settings for both linux and windows and everything seems to be working great (except for the name resolution as described above). Thank you very much for getting me through so far, I really appreciate it. I got slirp port-forwarding also to work beautifully and all of this would help reduce the complexity of how I move files around and work with our SCM without additional ssh tunnels. PS: Henry, sorry about the duplicate, I first used reply instead of reply all. -- Hari |
From: Eric S. J. <es...@ha...> - 2010-05-10 01:12:01
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On 5/9/2010 8:46 PM, Eric S. Johansson wrote: . I > guess I'm going to have to go get an account and put the information in as > appropriate. didn't need an account to update the wiki. Hope you approve of the wording. |