From: peter g. <plu...@bi...> - 2004-10-31 01:04:44
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btw bottom posting is a really strange way to reply to messages most people either top post or only quote small peices of the original message i installed mediawiki here infintely long range blocks are possible using CIDR http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Range_blocks [01:18] <plugwash> is it possible to permanently block ranges in mediawiki? [01:20] <Rdsmith4> I think "indefinite" and "infinite" are permitted [01:21] <Rdsmith4> ...but it's always possible to unblock them later [01:34] <plugwash> The sysop ability to create range blocks is disabled. <-- how do i change this? [01:36] * Tim-away is now known as TimStarling [01:36] <TimStarling> morning [01:37] <TimStarling> $wgSysopRangeBans = true; [01:38] <plugwash> what file is that in? [01:42] <TimStarling> LocalSettings.php [01:42] <TimStarling> you have to add the line however it seems that wikipedia won't let me block more than a /16 at a time is this a problem > -----Original Message----- > From: col...@li... > [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Olivier > Souiry > Sent: 31 October 2004 01:08 > To: col...@li... > Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Liddicott" <sa...@li...> > To: <col...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:05 PM > Subject: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > peter green wrote: > > > im a heavy user of wikipedia and mediawiki seems far more > polished than > > > what is used on the colinux wiki > > > > > > for instance it has seperate discussion pages where the page > in question > > > can be discussed > > > > > > what do others think? > > > > At a wild guess, if someone is volunteering to set it up on behalf of Mr > > Aloni, and act as editor-in-cheif, I would guess that those advantages > > would out-weigh any disadvantages that anyone might be able to come up > > with. Perhaps someone with design skills to do a skin for it too. > > > > I like the idea but I'm not volunteering to do it. > > > > Sam > > > I second peter suggestion. a big advantage is a common look and user > interface with Wikipedia. some other projects (like Gentoo) > already use it. > > > we don't have enough content to make the migration difficult : about 200 > pages. the syntax is pretty different, but nothing really bad. it can be > automated, but about only 25 have really heavily formatted content. maybe > there are some PhpWiki to Wikimedia translators, otherwise its > only 3 hours > of work on a real connection (wikipedia engine on localhost). I can take > care of that. > > > the One Big Thing I would stress is that we need a way to ban > some ip ranges > from China and Korea mostly. some guys specializes in Wiki spamming to > increase their Google page ranks, and no, reverting vandalized > pages is not > enough : they are back after a few hours. > > in a few weeks, they will use robots, proxies, bots, whatever, we must be > ready to block them (whole ip ranges) and even to disallow > anonymous editing > if necessary. we must have some admin cop with facist behaviour > considering > these issues, and maybe learn some expertise from the Wikipedia project. > > > otherwise, this Wiki we be canned junk before you know it, like so many > others. > > > Regards, Olivier Souiry > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel |
From: peter g. <plu...@bi...> - 2004-10-31 02:34:01
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i know there is plenty of opposition to top posting but i've never heared anyone reccomending bottom posting most such places seem to advocate the quote only as much as you need idea rather than either top or bottom posting > -----Original Message----- > From: col...@li... > [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Richard > Goodwin > Sent: 31 October 2004 02:13 > To: col...@li... > Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > Actually there is an etiquette page somewhere that says you should always > reply at the bottom. I can't stand it, and think it's totally incorrect as > well. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter green" <plu...@bi...> > To: "Olivier Souiry" <co...@a-...>; > <col...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:04 PM > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > btw bottom posting is a really strange way to reply to messages most > people > > either top post or only quote small peices of the original message > > > > i installed mediawiki here > > infintely long range blocks are possible using CIDR > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Range_blocks > > > > [01:18] <plugwash> is it possible to permanently block ranges in > mediawiki? > > [01:20] <Rdsmith4> I think "indefinite" and "infinite" are permitted > > [01:21] <Rdsmith4> ...but it's always possible to unblock them later > > > > [01:34] <plugwash> The sysop ability to create range blocks is disabled. > <-- > > how do i change this? > > [01:36] * Tim-away is now known as TimStarling > > [01:36] <TimStarling> morning > > [01:37] <TimStarling> $wgSysopRangeBans = true; > > [01:38] <plugwash> what file is that in? > > [01:42] <TimStarling> LocalSettings.php > > [01:42] <TimStarling> you have to add the line > > > > however it seems that wikipedia won't let me block more than a /16 at a > time > > is this a problem > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: col...@li... > > > [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Olivier > > > Souiry > > > Sent: 31 October 2004 01:08 > > > To: col...@li... > > > Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sam Liddicott" <sa...@li...> > > > To: <col...@li...> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:05 PM > > > Subject: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > > > > > > > peter green wrote: > > > > > im a heavy user of wikipedia and mediawiki seems far more > > > polished than > > > > > what is used on the colinux wiki > > > > > > > > > > for instance it has seperate discussion pages where the page > > > in question > > > > > can be discussed > > > > > > > > > > what do others think? > > > > > > > > At a wild guess, if someone is volunteering to set it up on > behalf of > Mr > > > > Aloni, and act as editor-in-cheif, I would guess that those > advantages > > > > would out-weigh any disadvantages that anyone might be able > to come up > > > > with. Perhaps someone with design skills to do a skin for it too. > > > > > > > > I like the idea but I'm not volunteering to do it. > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > I second peter suggestion. a big advantage is a common look and user > > > interface with Wikipedia. some other projects (like Gentoo) > > > already use it. > > > > > > > > > we don't have enough content to make the migration difficult > : about 200 > > > pages. the syntax is pretty different, but nothing really > bad. it can be > > > automated, but about only 25 have really heavily formatted content. > maybe > > > there are some PhpWiki to Wikimedia translators, otherwise its > > > only 3 hours > > > of work on a real connection (wikipedia engine on localhost). > I can take > > > care of that. > > > > > > > > > the One Big Thing I would stress is that we need a way to ban > > > some ip ranges > > > from China and Korea mostly. some guys specializes in Wiki spamming to > > > increase their Google page ranks, and no, reverting vandalized > > > pages is not > > > enough : they are back after a few hours. > > > > > > in a few weeks, they will use robots, proxies, bots, whatever, we must > be > > > ready to block them (whole ip ranges) and even to disallow > > > anonymous editing > > > if necessary. we must have some admin cop with facist behaviour > > > considering > > > these issues, and maybe learn some expertise from the > Wikipedia project. > > > > > > > > > otherwise, this Wiki we be canned junk before you know it, > like so many > > > others. > > > > > > > > > Regards, Olivier Souiry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > > > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > > > _______________________________________________ > > > coLinux-devel mailing list > > > coL...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > coLinux-devel mailing list > > coL...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel |
From: Reini U. <ru...@x-...> - 2004-11-07 09:59:57
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Hi I happen to be the PhpWiki maitainer also. so I can answer your questions also. My console patches in another msg. IP blocking: So far we never had any reason to block any IP range, so we decided not add it to our codebase. And phpwiki is several years older than mediawiki. Occasional spamming is immediatly detected if the admin or interesting party is subscribed to PageChangeNotification emails. The "in two weeks they will spam us to death" urban legend started about two years ago, and never happened so far. But we consider other blocking techniques for log-file base abuse detection. If you have any wiki problems I can easily answer any other questions. BTW: The wiki overview at onlamp is quite wrong regarding phpwiki. If you prefer the mediawiki layout you can use the phpwiki MonoBook skin. This is the same but uses the phpwiki codebase. -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rurban/ |
From: Richard G. <ric...@ri...> - 2004-10-31 02:12:36
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Actually there is an etiquette page somewhere that says you should always reply at the bottom. I can't stand it, and think it's totally incorrect as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter green" <plu...@bi...> To: "Olivier Souiry" <co...@a-...>; <col...@li...> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > btw bottom posting is a really strange way to reply to messages most people > either top post or only quote small peices of the original message > > i installed mediawiki here > infintely long range blocks are possible using CIDR > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Range_blocks > > [01:18] <plugwash> is it possible to permanently block ranges in mediawiki? > [01:20] <Rdsmith4> I think "indefinite" and "infinite" are permitted > [01:21] <Rdsmith4> ...but it's always possible to unblock them later > > [01:34] <plugwash> The sysop ability to create range blocks is disabled. <-- > how do i change this? > [01:36] * Tim-away is now known as TimStarling > [01:36] <TimStarling> morning > [01:37] <TimStarling> $wgSysopRangeBans = true; > [01:38] <plugwash> what file is that in? > [01:42] <TimStarling> LocalSettings.php > [01:42] <TimStarling> you have to add the line > > however it seems that wikipedia won't let me block more than a /16 at a time > is this a problem > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: col...@li... > > [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Olivier > > Souiry > > Sent: 31 October 2004 01:08 > > To: col...@li... > > Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sam Liddicott" <sa...@li...> > > To: <col...@li...> > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 10:05 PM > > Subject: [coLinux-devel] Re: switching to mediawiki > > > > > > > peter green wrote: > > > > im a heavy user of wikipedia and mediawiki seems far more > > polished than > > > > what is used on the colinux wiki > > > > > > > > for instance it has seperate discussion pages where the page > > in question > > > > can be discussed > > > > > > > > what do others think? > > > > > > At a wild guess, if someone is volunteering to set it up on behalf of Mr > > > Aloni, and act as editor-in-cheif, I would guess that those advantages > > > would out-weigh any disadvantages that anyone might be able to come up > > > with. Perhaps someone with design skills to do a skin for it too. > > > > > > I like the idea but I'm not volunteering to do it. > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > I second peter suggestion. a big advantage is a common look and user > > interface with Wikipedia. some other projects (like Gentoo) > > already use it. > > > > > > we don't have enough content to make the migration difficult : about 200 > > pages. the syntax is pretty different, but nothing really bad. it can be > > automated, but about only 25 have really heavily formatted content. maybe > > there are some PhpWiki to Wikimedia translators, otherwise its > > only 3 hours > > of work on a real connection (wikipedia engine on localhost). I can take > > care of that. > > > > > > the One Big Thing I would stress is that we need a way to ban > > some ip ranges > > from China and Korea mostly. some guys specializes in Wiki spamming to > > increase their Google page ranks, and no, reverting vandalized > > pages is not > > enough : they are back after a few hours. > > > > in a few weeks, they will use robots, proxies, bots, whatever, we must be > > ready to block them (whole ip ranges) and even to disallow > > anonymous editing > > if necessary. we must have some admin cop with facist behaviour > > considering > > these issues, and maybe learn some expertise from the Wikipedia project. > > > > > > otherwise, this Wiki we be canned junk before you know it, like so many > > others. > > > > > > Regards, Olivier Souiry > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > coLinux-devel mailing list > > coL...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > > |
From: tei <42...@in...> - 2004-10-31 02:16:55
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MediaWiki support for code its very good, the result is clean and you only need to place a space before any line of code. Good Luck with the migration process :D |