From: Martin K. <ka...@po...> - 2004-05-19 17:48:46
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Hi, what about checking for installed cygwin. if not found, we can try to load it. if it fails, you can install it, say in %system%. we can do it as separate install package or if nsis supports reinstalling that could update the installation and remove the cygwin1.dll if whole cygwin should be installed. well, it's not the best approach, but with a separate option for installing this dll, there should be no* problem. (*in most cases). Regads, Martin |
From: John L. <jo...@su...> - 2004-05-19 19:06:41
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I just have to ask, why do we really want to depend on cygwin? If it is just for the X server, it seems we have better alternatives. We will have (at some point in the near future) a framebuffer device. If there are other reasons, let's discuss them, rather than whether or not we can include cygwin1.dll in the installation package. John Martin Kanich wrote: > Hi, > > what about checking for installed cygwin. if not found, we can try to > load it. if it fails, you can install it, say in %system%. we can do > it as separate install package or if nsis supports reinstalling that > could update the installation and remove the cygwin1.dll if whole > cygwin should be installed. well, it's not the best approach, but with > a separate option for installing this dll, there should be no* > problem. (*in most cases). > > Regads, > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband > Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest > 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-05-19 19:32:47
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there is one thing that cygwin X does much better than any current or proposed alternative in multiwindow mode it makes X windows into windows windows which are handled just like any other windows window (no window manager needed) imho this is by far the nicest way of using X with windows that is currently possible -----Original Message----- From: col...@li... [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of John LeSueur Sent: 19 May 2004 20:09 To: Martin Kanich Cc: col...@li... Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies I just have to ask, why do we really want to depend on cygwin? If it is just for the X server, it seems we have better alternatives. We will have (at some point in the near future) a framebuffer device. If there are other reasons, let's discuss them, rather than whether or not we can include cygwin1.dll in the installation package. John Martin Kanich wrote: > Hi, > > what about checking for installed cygwin. if not found, we can try to > load it. if it fails, you can install it, say in %system%. we can do > it as separate install package or if nsis supports reinstalling that > could update the installation and remove the cygwin1.dll if whole > cygwin should be installed. well, it's not the best approach, but with > a separate option for installing this dll, there should be no* > problem. (*in most cases). > > Regads, > Martin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband > Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest > 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2562&alloc_id=6184&op=click _______________________________________________ coLinux-devel mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 |
From: Daniel S. <dan...@ya...> - 2004-05-19 21:14:24
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> -----Original Message----- > From: col...@li... [mailto:colinux-devel- > ad...@li...] On Behalf Of peter green > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:33 PM > To: John LeSueur; Martin Kanich > Cc: col...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > > there is one thing that cygwin X does much better than any current or > proposed alternative > > in multiwindow mode it makes X windows into windows windows which are > handled just like any other windows window (no window manager needed) > > imho this is by far the nicest way of using X with windows that is > currently > possible > It's nice if all you're going to do is bring up an xterm or two and run a couple of apps. If you want to use one if the desktop environments like KDE or gnome, it's not so nice anymore - in addition to requiring extensions from the window manager, these desktop environments usually create a full screen desktop window on top of the root window. I have found that they simply work better when XWin is run in fullscreen mode. Also, as of the most recent version of XWin, you can't use XDMCP with multiwindow mode. |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-05-19 21:22:20
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yeah i agree if you wan't a linux desktop within a window multiwindow mode is not the way to go i just don't see why you would want that when you can run linux apps within your existing window management structure (from windows) haveing two completely seperate desktops seems to go against the whole idea of windows and linux integrated together ;) also i have to say i consider kde and gnome crappy bloatware ;) -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Slater [mailto:dan...@ya...] Sent: 19 May 2004 22:14 To: 'peter green'; 'John LeSueur'; 'Martin Kanich' Cc: col...@li... Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > -----Original Message----- > From: col...@li... [mailto:colinux-devel- > ad...@li...] On Behalf Of peter green > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:33 PM > To: John LeSueur; Martin Kanich > Cc: col...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > > there is one thing that cygwin X does much better than any current or > proposed alternative > > in multiwindow mode it makes X windows into windows windows which are > handled just like any other windows window (no window manager needed) > > imho this is by far the nicest way of using X with windows that is > currently > possible > It's nice if all you're going to do is bring up an xterm or two and run a couple of apps. If you want to use one if the desktop environments like KDE or gnome, it's not so nice anymore - in addition to requiring extensions from the window manager, these desktop environments usually create a full screen desktop window on top of the root window. I have found that they simply work better when XWin is run in fullscreen mode. Also, as of the most recent version of XWin, you can't use XDMCP with multiwindow mode. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-05-20 12:14:37
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I agree that for the experienced guys using coLinux as a tool to get work done multiwindow is probably the way to go. That is what I use myself. Bu= t another big use for coLinux is as a tool to demo linux to newbies ie. the coKnoppix project. For these uses it is probably best to provide a full seperate desktop. Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably will find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X and this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install of cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list and have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is really a need for making choices for people here just provide options. Having a complete desktop of some sort or another is probably the best option for newbies (nice menu's with lots of programs...) BTW: even though you cannot use multiwindow with xdmcp (in newer versions of cygwin) you can use rootless and some of the window managers (not DE's= ) will work. I put some info on this on the wiki on a sub page of the other X stuff. chris > yeah i agree if you wan't a linux desktop within a window multiwindow m= ode > is not the way to go i just don't see why you would want that when you = can > run linux apps within your existing window management structure (from > windows) > > haveing two completely seperate desktops seems to go against the whole > idea > of windows and linux integrated together ;) > > also i have to say i consider kde and gnome crappy bloatware ;) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Slater [mailto:dan...@ya...] > Sent: 19 May 2004 22:14 > To: 'peter green'; 'John LeSueur'; 'Martin Kanich' > Cc: col...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: col...@li... [mailto:colinux-devel- >> ad...@li...] On Behalf Of peter green >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:33 PM >> To: John LeSueur; Martin Kanich >> Cc: col...@li... >> Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies >> >> there is one thing that cygwin X does much better than any current or >> proposed alternative >> >> in multiwindow mode it makes X windows into windows windows which are >> handled just like any other windows window (no window manager needed) >> >> imho this is by far the nicest way of using X with windows that is >> currently >> possible >> > > It's nice if all you're going to do is bring up an xterm or two and run= a > couple of apps. If you want to use one if the desktop environments like > KDE > or gnome, it's not so nice anymore - in addition to requiring extension= s > from the window manager, these desktop environments usually create a fu= ll > screen desktop window on top of the root window. I have found that they > simply work better when XWin is run in fullscreen mode. Also, as of the > most > recent version of XWin, you can't use XDMCP with multiwindow mode. > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: SourceForge.net Broadband > Sign-up now for SourceForge Broadband and get the fastest > 6.0/768 connection for only $19.95/mo for the first 3 months! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D2562&alloc_id=3D6184&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
From: Steven E. <ste...@ya...> - 2004-05-20 15:30:59
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Hi, --- ch...@to... wrote: > Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably > will > find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X > and > this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install > of > cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list > and > have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is > really > a need for making choices for people here just provide options. Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-05-20 15:41:39
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does the mingw version support multiwindow mode? and if not can it be made to do so? -----Original Message----- From: Steven Edwards [mailto:ste...@ya...] Sent: 20 May 2004 16:31 To: ch...@to...; peter green Cc: Daniel Slater; 'John LeSueur'; 'Martin Kanich'; col...@li... Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies Hi, --- ch...@to... wrote: > Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably > will > find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X > and > this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install > of > cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list > and > have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is > really > a need for making choices for people here just provide options. Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains =16 Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 |
From: Steven E. <ste...@ya...> - 2004-05-20 15:51:25
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Hello, --- peter green <plu...@p1...> wrote: > does the mingw version support multiwindow mode? > and if not can it be made to do so? Not at this time. There has not been a update to it in 3 years. I am sure we could fix it in very little time though. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Daniel S. <dan...@ya...> - 2004-05-20 16:16:50
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I'm not sure we really want to get into the business of building = X-Servers - colinux itself is a large enough project to keep us occupied for a very = long time. I think our best bet is to provide frame buffer support - ideally = for the existing VESA driver - this would give us an X Server solution we = can distribute with colinux that will work even if networking isn't up and running yet. End users who want multiwindow mode still have the option = of downloading the cygwin X server themselves directly from Cygnus.com.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: col...@li... [mailto:colinux-devel- > ad...@li...] On Behalf Of Steven Edwards > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:51 AM > To: peter green; ch...@to... > Cc: Daniel Slater; 'John LeSueur'; 'Martin Kanich'; colinux- > de...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies >=20 > Hello, > --- peter green <plu...@p1...> wrote: > > does the mingw version support multiwindow mode? > > and if not can it be made to do so? >=20 > Not at this time. There has not been a update to it in 3 years. I am > sure we could fix it in very little time though. >=20 > Thanks > Steven >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Domains =16 Claim yours for only $14.70/year > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g > Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle = 10g. > Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3D3149&alloc_id=3D8166&op=3Dclick > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel |
From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-05-20 17:34:48
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Did you try it? That readme was a bit of a turn off for me. Might be interesting to see what the developers documented also would be interesting to find out why it was abandoned sounds like to interesting a project to just die. But I agree with Dan S that the frame buffer is more of a core coLinux issue but something like this would be great in a optional bundle. question. Would frame buffer allow vgalib stuff to work that is not X and also not console? That would also be an argument for doing it. There is the posibility that someone could develop a linux kernel based os that does not use X but is gui driven. (I am a big fan of keeping X though) chris > Hi, > > --- ch...@to... wrote: >> Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably >> will >> find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X >> and >> this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install >> of >> cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list >> and >> have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is >> really >> a need for making choices for people here just provide options. > > Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a > Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was > possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our > our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by > removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. > > ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ > > Thanks > Steven > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Domains =96 Claim yours for only $14.70/year > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer > |
From: Steven E. <ste...@ya...> - 2004-05-20 17:40:34
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Hi, --- ch...@to... wrote: > Did you try it? That readme was a bit of a turn off for me. > Might be interesting to see what the developers documented also would > be > interesting to find out why it was abandoned sounds like to > interesting a > project to just die. Not yet. > question. Would frame buffer allow vgalib stuff to work that is not X > and > also not console? That would also be an argument for doing it. There > is > the posibility that someone could develop a linux kernel based os > that > does not use X but is gui driven. (I am a big fan of keeping X > though) We on the ReactOS side have not really contributed much to CoLinux at this point so I will see if I can make sometime to check and see if a currect XFree can be built for Mingw rather than Cygwin. If it works and you guys want to use it, then great. If not it will still come in handy for us to have to test on ReactOS. Thanks Steven __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer |
From: Daniel S. <dan...@ya...> - 2004-05-20 19:32:15
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> -----Original Message----- > From: ch...@to... [mailto:ch...@to...] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:35 PM > To: Steven Edwards > Cc: ch...@to...; peter green; Daniel Slater; 'John LeSueur'; > 'Martin Kanich'; col...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > > Did you try it? That readme was a bit of a turn off for me. > Might be interesting to see what the developers documented also would be > interesting to find out why it was abandoned sounds like to interesting a > project to just die. > > But I agree with Dan S that the frame buffer is more of a core coLinux > issue but something like this would be great in a optional bundle. > > question. Would frame buffer allow vgalib stuff to work that is not X and > also not console? That would also be an argument for doing it. There is > the posibility that someone could develop a linux kernel based os that > does not use X but is gui driven. (I am a big fan of keeping X though) > It seems to that if you can completely emulate the VESA frame buffer standard, then anything written to that standard should work. I only briefly looked at the standard, but I believe it involves trapping an interrupt and providing a frame buffer pointer. Quite a while ago, I had been thinking a frame buffer could be emulated if we had a process on the windows side that created a window backed by a DIBSection. A simplistic implementation would be to create a DIBSection using a file mapping object, the DIBSection's bits could then be shared with the colinux daemon. Then the process that created the DIBSection would simply go into a loop that BitBlts the DIBSection to the screen 30-60 times a second (most of today's video cards should have no problem doing this as BitBlt is almost always hardware accelerated.) > chris > > > Hi, > > > > --- ch...@to... wrote: > >> Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably > >> will > >> find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X > >> and > >> this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install > >> of > >> cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list > >> and > >> have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is > >> really > >> a need for making choices for people here just provide options. > > > > Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a > > Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was > > possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our > > our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by > > removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. > > > > ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ > > > > Thanks > > Steven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year > > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer > > |
From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-05-20 19:46:01
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why go to all the trouble of blitting indirectly when you can just ask directx for a framebuffer mapping then copy it over into the colinux page tables -----Original Message----- From: col...@li... [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Daniel Slater Sent: 20 May 2004 20:32 To: ch...@to...; 'Steven Edwards' Cc: 'peter green'; 'John LeSueur'; 'Martin Kanich'; col...@li... Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > -----Original Message----- > From: ch...@to... [mailto:ch...@to...] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:35 PM > To: Steven Edwards > Cc: ch...@to...; peter green; Daniel Slater; 'John LeSueur'; > 'Martin Kanich'; col...@li... > Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Cygwin1.DLL dependancies > > Did you try it? That readme was a bit of a turn off for me. > Might be interesting to see what the developers documented also would be > interesting to find out why it was abandoned sounds like to interesting a > project to just die. > > But I agree with Dan S that the frame buffer is more of a core coLinux > issue but something like this would be great in a optional bundle. > > question. Would frame buffer allow vgalib stuff to work that is not X and > also not console? That would also be an argument for doing it. There is > the posibility that someone could develop a linux kernel based os that > does not use X but is gui driven. (I am a big fan of keeping X though) > It seems to that if you can completely emulate the VESA frame buffer standard, then anything written to that standard should work. I only briefly looked at the standard, but I believe it involves trapping an interrupt and providing a frame buffer pointer. Quite a while ago, I had been thinking a frame buffer could be emulated if we had a process on the windows side that created a window backed by a DIBSection. A simplistic implementation would be to create a DIBSection using a file mapping object, the DIBSection's bits could then be shared with the colinux daemon. Then the process that created the DIBSection would simply go into a loop that BitBlts the DIBSection to the screen 30-60 times a second (most of today's video cards should have no problem doing this as BitBlt is almost always hardware accelerated.) > chris > > > Hi, > > > > --- ch...@to... wrote: > >> Also the people who wish to take advantage of multiwindow probably > >> will > >> find at least 1 other usefull thing if not many in cygwin besides X > >> and > >> this will vary greatly from user to user. So doing a seperate install > >> of > >> cygwin is probably the way to go. If you can look at the package list > >> and > >> have a clue then you can install cygwin. So I don't think there is > >> really > >> a need for making choices for people here just provide options. > > > > Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a > > Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was > > possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our > > our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by > > removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. > > > > ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ > > > > Thanks > > Steven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year > > http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Oracle 10g Get certified on the hottest thing ever to hit the market... Oracle 10g. Take an Oracle 10g class now, and we'll give you the exam FREE. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=3149&alloc_id=8166&op=click _______________________________________________ coLinux-devel mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 434 - Release Date: 28/04/2004 |
From: Matt B. <ma...@zi...> - 2004-05-20 17:39:32
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On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 08:30:59AM -0700, Steven Edwards wrote: > Sorry to jump in late to the converstion but we can also remove a > Cygwin dependant X-server from the list of problems. As of 2001 it was > possible to build XFree with Mingw so we might be able to just do our > our build of 4.4 with Mingw and post it on the CoLinux site there by > removing the problem of the Cygwin dlls. >=20 > ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/win32-x11/win32-x11/ README.TXT: The precompiled win32-x11 (X11R6.5.1 libraries, clients and X-server for MSVC 6.0). It is work in progress and server is no where close to complete. Hmm... |
From: Samuel L. <sa...@li...> - 2004-05-19 23:21:57
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"Daniel Slater" <dan...@ya...> wrote in message news:BAC...@h0...... > It's nice if all you're going to do is bring up an xterm or two and run a > couple of apps. Or even lots of apps. > If you want to use one if the desktop environments like KDE > or gnome, it's not so nice anymore Yes, if you want to run an X desktop environment of course you wont use multiwindow mode. I prefer multiwindow mode and am glad to stick to the windows desktop environment, two would be too much. multiwinow mode + hostfs (or samba till then) makes things quite convenient. Sam |