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From: Jago P. <jag...@ho...> - 2004-03-15 13:26:22
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re: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1039485&forum_id=342355 Quite a lot of people are finding thet coLinux will only run as administrator. Can someone please confirm this for us? The only error message people get is "Error, unable to determine if driver is installed (rc -19)" which is very confusing. It would be nice if something about admin rights was mentioned. Shall I submit a patch that changes this error message to "Error, unable to determine if driver is installed (rc -19), you need to be Administrator at present to run coLinux" or is this inaccurate? ----- Thank you for your time. (Please Type "REPLY:" in subject field if you wish to highlight your response, thx). jag...@ca... is just my email provider of choice, that's all; I agree with thier policies over email. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger |
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From: peter g. <plu...@p1...> - 2004-03-15 14:46:03
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for those who read how colinux works it is obvious it will need admin privs basically the linux kernel is run in kernel space and multitasks somehow with the windows kernel to get it there a kernel mode driver is loaded (docs refer to it as install even though no files are copied) loading this driver requires admin privilages -----Original Message----- From: col...@li... [mailto:col...@li...]On Behalf Of Jago Pearce Sent: 15 March 2004 13:26 To: col...@li... Subject: [coLinux-devel] Running as non-admin re: http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1039485&forum_id=342355 Quite a lot of people are finding thet coLinux will only run as administrator. Can someone please confirm this for us? The only error message people get is "Error, unable to determine if driver is installed (rc -19)" which is very confusing. It would be nice if something about admin rights was mentioned. Shall I submit a patch that changes this error message to "Error, unable to determine if driver is installed (rc -19), you need to be Administrator at present to run coLinux" or is this inaccurate? ----- Thank you for your time. (Please Type "REPLY:" in subject field if you wish to highlight your response, thx). jag...@ca... is just my email provider of choice, that's all; I agree with thier policies over email. _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click _______________________________________________ coLinux-devel mailing list coL...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 18/02/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 18/02/2004 |
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From: Mikhail G. <gu...@go...> - 2004-03-16 02:15:33
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You (plu...@p1...) wrote: > for those who read how colinux works it is obvious it will need admin privs Ok, it seems that you need enough privilegies to run coLinux. Administrator has such a rights and services running on the machine also could have enough power :) to boot coLinux. It seems impossible for now to run coLinux as NT service because its framework (startup executable) running interactive programs (yes, I've played with "Interactive" frag in services settings), such as initially attached console. I've tried to accompish this, but was unsuccesfull. I've used srvany.exe from ResKit and the target service stopped immediately after starting (I suppose colinux-daemon.exe reported some error and stopped). It may be fine to learn coLinux run as service and I don't think it will require significant rewrite of source code. -- Sincerely yours, Mikhail A Gusarov Software Engineer IBM Solutions Group, Axmor Software ICQ# 111575219 |
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From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-03-16 12:20:40
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I definatly think that running as a service should be a goal of the project. Although there are plenty of uses for it running as a program there are many more that would be better as a service. In most situations where it would be installed on a server to provided a dual os server as a service would be the way to run It so that the machine does not have to be left with an administrator logged in. Also there are probably many situations where a user of lesser priveleges may need to log in or use services running under coLinux from their windows session. chris > > You (plu...@p1...) wrote: > >> for those who read how colinux works it is obvious it will need admin >> privs > > Ok, it seems that you need enough privilegies to run > coLinux. Administrator has such a rights and services running on the > machine also could have enough power :) to boot coLinux. It seems > impossible for now to run coLinux as NT service because its framework > (startup executable) running interactive programs (yes, I've played > with "Interactive" frag in services settings), such as initially > attached console. I've tried to accompish this, but was > unsuccesfull. I've used srvany.exe from ResKit and the target service > stopped immediately after starting (I suppose colinux-daemon.exe > reported some error and stopped). It may be fine to learn coLinux run > as service and I don't think it will require significant rewrite of > source code. > > -- > Sincerely yours, Mikhail A Gusarov > Software Engineer > IBM Solutions Group, Axmor Software > ICQ# 111575219 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
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From: Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...> - 2004-03-16 15:28:46
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ch...@to... wrote: | I definatly think that running as a service should be a goal of the project. | Although there are plenty of uses for it running as a program there are | many more that would be better as a service. I second this motion. I can devote some time to looking into what it will take to run this as a service, although it appears that someone already used the approach I was going to try. That being, find a wrapper program that will allow an ordinary program to be run as a service and attempt to use it. I also think it should still be allowed to run the way it does now, too. - -- Jason A. Pattie pat...@xp... Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAVx0MuYsUrHkpYtARAvz6AJ9nvSdSiUY5fKCWwLI0XrMcr5AMfwCeM3St qxVxxp2dtBxHI9P7gmux5lU= =j+iO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. |
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From: Mikhail G. <gu...@go...> - 2004-03-16 17:06:31
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You (pat...@pc...) wrote: > I second this motion. I can devote some time to looking into what it > will take to run this as a service, although it appears that someone > already used the approach I was going to try. That being, find a Yes, I've tried to do this. > wrapper program that will allow an ordinary program to be run as a > service and attempt to use it. Standard srvany.exe from reskit does not allow to start colinux as service. I suppose it happens because of creating and attaching console. -- Sincerely yours, Mikhail A Gusarov Software Engineer IBM Solutions Group, Axmor Software ICQ# 111575219 |
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From: Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...> - 2004-03-16 19:39:55
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mikhail Gusarov wrote: ~ > Standard srvany.exe from reskit does not allow to start colinux as | service. I suppose it happens because of creating and attaching | console. That's why I pass it the '-d' option to disable the automatic launching of that console. - -- Jason A. Pattie pat...@xp... Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAV1f3uYsUrHkpYtARAjPGAJ9i/GD7gVLqa0rCBQcfq2fQ+tumvQCfaHnW ptEG1UdTzBsbCPHuSR2Qfrs= =J6B7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. |
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From: Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...> - 2004-03-16 17:04:09
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jason A. Pattie wrote: | ch...@to... wrote: | | I definatly think that running as a service should be a goal of the | project. | | Although there are plenty of uses for it running as a program there are | | many more that would be better as a service. | | I second this motion. I can devote some time to looking into what it | will take to run this as a service, although it appears that someone | already used the approach I was going to try. That being, find a | wrapper program that will allow an ordinary program to be run as a | service and attempt to use it. | | I also think it should still be allowed to run the way it does now, too. In my searching, I came across the fact that if you have not purchased a copy of the NT Resource Kit, then you cannot legally use/distribute(?) instsrv.exe and srvany.exe. I also came across an e-mail in the cygwin mailing list that discussed this very issue and gave the alternative of cygrunsrv.exe. I've started playing with this as a means to freely install and distribute colinux-daemon.exe as a running service. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked yet either. I've attempted the following: (from cygwin prompt) cygrunsrv.exe --install coLinux --path /cygdrive/c/coLinux/colinux-daemon.exe --args '-d' I've also tried this: cygrunsrv.exe --install coLinux --path /cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32/cmd.exe --args '/k "c:\coLinux\colinux-daemon.exe -d"' It appears that the service is started when using the first example. But the colinux-console cannot connect to it, and I can't ping the IP of the coLinux instance. For the second example, the following error message is spit out: cygrunsrv: Error starting a service: QueryServiceStatus: Win32 error 1062: The service has not been started. Going to try to figure out why the service isn't starting. Could it potentially have something to do with requirements of cmd.exe or the colinux-daemon executable that aren't being met inside the service environment provided? - -- Jason A. Pattie pat...@xp... Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAVzNwuYsUrHkpYtARAo3PAJ4zJY0SA/bN9irLYpR+N7kRdLOrnQCfRZJH bKEKYCJEi11NAS4PYIQApmE= =2Qg/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. |
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From: Mikhail G. <gu...@go...> - 2004-03-16 17:26:04
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You (pat...@pc...) wrote: > In my searching, I came across the fact that if you have not purchased a > copy of the NT Resource Kit, then you cannot legally use/distribute(?) > instsrv.exe and srvany.exe. I also came across an e-mail in the cygwin Sounds strange. I've freely downloaded a copy of Windows2003 ResKit from Micro$oft site. -- Sincerely yours, Mikhail A Gusarov Software Engineer IBM Solutions Group, Axmor Software ICQ# 111575219 |
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From: Sean B. <sea...@so...> - 2004-03-16 19:21:56
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> > > In my searching, I came across the fact that if you have > not purchased > > a copy of the NT Resource Kit, then you cannot legally > > use/distribute(?) instsrv.exe and srvany.exe. I also came > across an > > e-mail in the cygwin > > Sounds strange. I've freely downloaded a copy of Windows2003 > ResKit from Micro$oft site. Parts, but not all, of the resource kit have always been freely available. The full resource kit is a commercial offering. srvany seems to be available. Is srvany part of the w2k+3 reskit that you downloaded? |
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From: Mikhail G. <gu...@go...> - 2004-03-17 05:20:04
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You (sea...@so...) wrote: > Parts, but not all, of the resource kit have always been > freely available. The full resource kit is a commercial offering. I'm not sure, but this reskit seems much bigger than free parts of NT4 reskit I've downloaded before. May be M$ released it for free as it already happened with "M$ Services For Unix"? > SRVANY seems to be available. Is srvany part of the w2k+3 reskit > that you downloaded? Yes, it is. ps: this reskit also works on XP. -- Sincerely yours, Mikhail A Gusarov Software Engineer IBM Solutions Group, Axmor Software ICQ# 111575219 |
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From: Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...> - 2004-03-16 19:38:26
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mikhail Gusarov wrote: | You (pat...@pc...) wrote: | | |>In my searching, I came across the fact that if you have not purchased a |>copy of the NT Resource Kit, then you cannot legally use/distribute(?) |>instsrv.exe and srvany.exe. I also came across an e-mail in the cygwin | | | Sounds strange. I've freely downloaded a copy of Windows2003 ResKit from | Micro$oft site. | I'm using Win2K. - -- Jason A. Pattie pat...@xp... Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAV1eZuYsUrHkpYtARAuiAAJoD/XNpVL0l9vfTsyZISeautwaKRwCeLP7l yBL8HZtCpkv9QH0Cf67i/Gk= =KK3f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. |
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From: <ch...@to...> - 2004-03-15 16:13:52
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No problem runing as another user with admin privliges. So you do not need to be administrator just be part of the administrators group. This would be a good reason to have coLinux run as a service and start automaticly at bootup so non admin users can login through the networking. I have not looked into if this is possible with the current version. chris > re: > http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1039485&forum_id=342355 > > Quite a lot of people are finding thet coLinux will only run as > administrator. Can someone please confirm this for us? > > The only error message people get is "Error, unable to determine if driver > is installed (rc -19)" which is very confusing. It would be nice if > something about admin rights was mentioned. Shall I submit a patch that > changes this error message to "Error, unable to determine if driver is > installed (rc -19), you need to be Administrator at present to run > coLinux" > or is this inaccurate? > > ----- > Thank you for your time. (Please Type "REPLY:" in subject field if you > wish > to highlight your response, thx). jag...@ca... is just my email > provider of choice, that's all; I agree with thier policies over email. > > _________________________________________________________________ > It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > coLinux-devel mailing list > coL...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/colinux-devel > |
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