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RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Clemmitt M. S. <sig...@bl...>]

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Sean Brook wrote:
> When you take into account other storage technologies eg scsi
> included with others it could change things again.

I included a MSFT link in an earlier post.  That page tries to explain 
SCSI and IDE drive numbering for W2K.

> All depends what the boot drive is I suppose.

I wish this were the clue I needed to buy myself.  But I have a
totally vanilla HD setup and partitioning scheme :^(

> Anyhoo, why do you want to know the logic behind this?

I haven't been able to access raw partitions in coLinux as 
\Device\HarddiskVolumeX or as \Device\HarddiskX\PartitionY.
I'd love to fully grok the naming scheme to see if I'm
doing something bogus in my XML config file.  I don't think
I am.

> IMO just follow whats in logical disk manager and save your sanity ;)

*chuckle* I'll try.

					Clemmitt

RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Sean B. <sea...@so...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: col...@li...
> [mailto:col...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Clemmitt M. Sigler
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 4:19 PM
> To: Sean Brook
> Cc: col...@li...
> Subject: RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX
> 
> 
> Hi Sean,
> 
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Sean Brook wrote:
> > You need to look at things from a logical point of view and not
> > physical.
> <snip>
> > > 1.) Is the primary master IDE disk Harddisk0, the primary slave
> > > Harddisk1,
> > > the secondary master Harddisk2, and the secondary slave Harddisk3?
> > Yes. But logical, not physical.
> 
> Thank you for your feedback.  Perhaps what I meant to ask is,
> "What is the logic behind the assignment/naming of the 
> logical disk devices in Windows 2K/XP?"
I really dont know. I have never needed to know what the scheme is
behind numbering of logical disk drives. 
From what I know with IDE drives only the numbering would be as above.
AFAIAC the drive numbering would be what you would expect in a physical
sense. When you take into account other storage technologies eg scsi
included with others it could change things again. All depends what the
boot drive is I suppose. As a side point Windows NT considers all drives
to be scsi and supported partitions can be mapped to different drive
letters. Throw fault tolerance into it and it would get really confusing
to predict.
Anyhoo, why do you want to know the logic behind this?

> 
> As I say, I just don't fully understand.  I've spent a few
> hours searching on Google and MSDN trying to find an answer, 
> to no avail :^(  
> TIA.
IMO just follow whats in logical disk manager and save your sanity ;)

> 
> 					Clemmitt
> 
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RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Clemmitt M. S. <sig...@bl...>]

Hi Sean,

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Sean Brook wrote:
> You need to look at things from a logical point of view and not
> physical.
<snip>
> > 1.) Is the primary master IDE disk Harddisk0, the primary slave Harddisk1, 
> > the secondary master Harddisk2, and the secondary slave Harddisk3?
> Yes. But logical, not physical.

Thank you for your feedback.  Perhaps what I meant to ask is, "What
is the logic behind the assignment/naming of the logical disk devices
in Windows 2K/XP?"

As I say, I just don't fully understand.  I've spent a few hours
searching on Google and MSDN trying to find an answer, to no avail :^(  
TIA.

					Clemmitt

RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Sean B. <sea...@so...>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: col...@li... 
> [mailto:col...@li...] On Behalf 
> Of Clemmitt M. Sigler
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:46 PM
> To: Ronald Pijnacker
> Cc: keksov; col...@li...
> Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Ronald Pijnacker wrote:
> > /dev/hda1: ext2                        /dev/hda2: ntfs 
> (windows c: disk)
> > /dev/hda3: extended                    /dev/hda5: swap
> > /dev/hda6: reiserfs (root for gentoo)  /dev/hda7: ntfs (windows d: 
> > disk)
> <snip>
> > \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 (entire disk) 
> > \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 ...
> > \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5
> > I have confirmed that Windows uses 
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 as C: and
> > \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5 as D: .
> 
> I'm still trying to wrap my poor mind around this stuff, 
> because I can't get any raw partitions to work under Windows 
> :^(  I've received a number of helpful private e-mails which 
> I haven't had time to follow up on (you know who you are, 
> thank you :^).
> 
> If I understand, Windows doesn't "count" /dev/hda3 a.k.a. the 
> Extended partition.  \D\H\P0 is the whole disk, then it 
> assigns the devices from 
> \D\H\P1 through 5 in order of the partition table's numbering, but 
> skipping the Extended partition.  Can someone with more 
> experience please 
> confirm this is the way Windows assigns \Device\HarddiskX\PartitionY?
You need to look at things from a logical point of view and not
physical.

> 
> Two other newbie-type questions:
> 
> 1.) Is the primary master IDE disk Harddisk0, the primary 
> slave Harddisk1, 
> the secondary master Harddisk2, and the secondary slave 
> Harddisk3?  This 
> would agree with the info on this MS Technet page:
Yes. But logical, not physical.

> 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/maintain/manag.mspx

(except for the typo under "IDE Drives" where they say the first drive
on the second controller would be designated 3, not 2 -- oops).

2.) Do the \Device\HarddiskVolumeX designations come from the Logical
Disk Manager?  And how do you figure out the mapping of 
\D\HarddiskVolumeX to \D\HarddiskY\PartitionZ?  The port of dd to
Windows with the --list option available here:
Yes, use logical disk manager. Hard disks start at 0. Partitions start
at 1. Personally I dont see how using a *nix orientated utility can help
in this matter.

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm

doesn't list the HarddiskVolumeX designations.  (Another place to get a
dd port to Windows is:

http://users.erols.com/gmgarner/forensics/).

If this is a FAQ or RTFM, please say so and I apologize in advance :^P

					Clemmitt Sigler



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RE: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Sean B. <sea...@so...>]

Hi,

Your settings are probably correct. I have been waiting for someone
else to give feed back on using native partitions as I have problems
too :) I wont go into them yet but will post back later. Essentially
I can boot from a native partition but linux cannot read the
superblock. I too am using Gentoo so have hacked checkroot and
checkfs to boot. Also, I am not using a native swap partition as=20
colinux seems to have issues with swap partitions in general, though=20
I have not tried this again with 20040313.

Some info which may help:
- You *must* look at your partitions from a logical(!) point of
view as opposed to physical. Use Storage/Disk Management aka
Logical Disk Manager. Just remember that Windows does its own
thing.
- The numbering of the hard disks and partitions is quite simple.
Hard disks start at 0. Partitions start at 1. Looking at things
from a logical point of view (as above) all should be clear.
- Don=92t know about that IO error. Kind of worrying. Try again
with a loopback swap image. Are you sure your partitions are
clean? boot native and e2fsck -f /dev/hda? perhaps?

Cheers.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: col...@li...=20
> [mailto:col...@li...] On Behalf=20
> Of Ronald Pijnacker
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:18 AM
> To: keksov
> Cc: Ronald Pijnacker; col...@li...
> Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX
>=20
>=20
> > Please, post your exact disks configuration with partions and OS=20
> > installed.
>=20
> One disk:
>=20
> /dev/hda1: ext2
> /dev/hda2: ntfs (windows c: disk)
> /dev/hda3: extended
> /dev/hda5: swap
> /dev/hda6: reiserfs (root for gentoo)
> /dev/hda7: ntfs (windows d: disk)
>=20
> I am using Windows XP, it reports the following:
>=20
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 (entire disk)=20
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 ... \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5
>=20
> I have confirmed that Windows uses=20
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 as C: and=20
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5 as D: .
>=20
> Ronald.
>=20
> > Friday, March 19, 2004, 8:44:15 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > RP> Hi,
> >
> > RP> The last few evenings, I have been busy with trying to get my=20
> > RP> (dual
> > boot)
> > RP> Gentoo installation working with coLinux. As instructed on the=20
> > RP> Wiki, I tried \Device\HarddiskVolume4, which should be the swap=20
> > RP> partition, and ...Volume5 which is the root partition.=20
> I've also=20
> > RP> tried \Device\Harddisk0\PartitionX.
> >
> > RP> However, inside colinux, the only thing I get from the=20
> /dev/cobd?
> > device
> > RP> is "IO error". Using the Debian file system and the swap-file=20
> > RP> works
> > fine.
> >
> > RP> I'm pretty sure I've got the right volume numbers (others also=20
> > RP> don't
> > work
> > RP> anyway). Is there something I'm missing?
> >
> > RP> Thanks,
> >
> > RP> Ronald.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Clemmitt M. S. <sig...@bl...>]

Hi,

On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Ronald Pijnacker wrote:
> /dev/hda1: ext2                        /dev/hda2: ntfs (windows c: disk)
> /dev/hda3: extended                    /dev/hda5: swap
> /dev/hda6: reiserfs (root for gentoo)  /dev/hda7: ntfs (windows d: disk)
<snip>
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 (entire disk)
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
> ...
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5
> I have confirmed that Windows uses \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 as C: and
> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition5 as D: .

I'm still trying to wrap my poor mind around this stuff, because I
can't get any raw partitions to work under Windows :^(  I've
received a number of helpful private e-mails which I haven't had
time to follow up on (you know who you are, thank you :^).

If I understand, Windows doesn't "count" /dev/hda3 a.k.a. the Extended
partition.  \D\H\P0 is the whole disk, then it assigns the devices from 
\D\H\P1 through 5 in order of the partition table's numbering, but 
skipping the Extended partition.  Can someone with more experience please 
confirm this is the way Windows assigns \Device\HarddiskX\PartitionY?

Two other newbie-type questions:

1.) Is the primary master IDE disk Harddisk0, the primary slave Harddisk1, 
the secondary master Harddisk2, and the secondary slave Harddisk3?  This 
would agree with the info on this MS Technet page:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/maintain/manag.mspx

(except for the typo under "IDE Drives" where they say the first drive
on the second controller would be designated 3, not 2 -- oops).

2.) Do the \Device\HarddiskVolumeX designations come from the Logical
Disk Manager?  And how do you figure out the mapping of 
\D\HarddiskVolumeX to \D\HarddiskY\PartitionZ?  The port of dd to
Windows with the --list option available here:

http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm

doesn't list the HarddiskVolumeX designations.  (Another place to get
a dd port to Windows is:

http://users.erols.com/gmgarner/forensics/).

If this is a FAQ or RTFM, please say so and I apologize in advance :^P

					Clemmitt Sigler

Re: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Ronald P. <pij...@ds...>]

> Please, post your exact disks configuration with partions and OS
> installed.

One disk:

/dev/hda1: ext2
/dev/hda2: ntfs (windows c: disk)
/dev/hda3: extended
/dev/hda5: swap
/dev/hda6: reiserfs (root for gentoo)
/dev/hda7: ntfs (windows d: disk)

I am using Windows XP, it reports the following:

\Device\Harddisk0\Partition0 (entire disk)
\Device\Harddisk0\Partition1
...
\Device\Harddisk0\Partition5

I have confirmed that Windows uses \Device\Harddisk0\Partition2 as C: and
\Device\Harddisk0\Partition5 as D: .

Ronald.

> Friday, March 19, 2004, 8:44:15 AM, you wrote:
>
> RP> Hi,
>
> RP> The last few evenings, I have been busy with trying to get my (dual
> boot)
> RP> Gentoo installation working with coLinux. As instructed on the Wiki=
, I
> RP> tried \Device\HarddiskVolume4, which should be the swap partition, =
and
> RP> ...Volume5 which is the root partition. I've also tried
> RP> \Device\Harddisk0\PartitionX.
>
> RP> However, inside colinux, the only thing I get from the /dev/cobd?
> device
> RP> is "IO error". Using the Debian file system and the swap-file works
> fine.
>
> RP> I'm pretty sure I've got the right volume numbers (others also don'=
t
> work
> RP> anyway). Is there something I'm missing?
>
> RP> Thanks,
>
> RP> Ronald.
>
>
>
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Re: [coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[keksov <ke...@gm...>]

Please, post your exact disks configuration with partions and OS installed.



Friday, March 19, 2004, 8:44:15 AM, you wrote:

RP> Hi,

RP> The last few evenings, I have been busy with trying to get my (dual boo=
t)
RP> Gentoo installation working with coLinux. As instructed on the Wiki, I
RP> tried \Device\HarddiskVolume4, which should be the swap partition, and
RP> ...Volume5 which is the root partition. I've also tried
RP> \Device\Harddisk0\PartitionX.

RP> However, inside colinux, the only thing I get from the /dev/cobd? device
RP> is "IO error". Using the Debian file system and the swap-file works fin=
e.

RP> I'm pretty sure I've got the right volume numbers (others also don't wo=
rk
RP> anyway). Is there something I'm missing?

RP> Thanks,

RP> Ronald.



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[coLinux-devel] Problems with \Device\HarddiskVolumeX

[Ronald P. <pij...@ds...>]

Hi,

The last few evenings, I have been busy with trying to get my (dual boot)
Gentoo installation working with coLinux. As instructed on the Wiki, I
tried \Device\HarddiskVolume4, which should be the swap partition, and
...Volume5 which is the root partition. I've also tried
\Device\Harddisk0\PartitionX.

However, inside colinux, the only thing I get from the /dev/cobd? device
is "IO error". Using the Debian file system and the swap-file works fine.

I'm pretty sure I've got the right volume numbers (others also don't work
anyway). Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks,

Ronald.

Re: [coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Dan A. <da...@co...>]

On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 05:39:29PM -0500, Carlos A.S. Oliveira wrote:
> You are right. I did something stupid when applying the patch. However,
> after patching the code, I get errors, like the following:
> 
> linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:90: warning: unnamed
>    struct/union that defines no instances
> 
> linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:100: field `params' has incomplete type

If you have read the ChangeLog, you'd notice that the latest patch from
the snapshots is against 2.4.25.

-- 
Dan Aloni
da...@co...

Re: [coLinux-devel] SMP system freeze completely

[Ronald P. <pij...@ds...>]

>>I confirm the problem. On a p4, when hyperthreading is activated, colinux 
>>freezes the whole system usually on syslog launch at boot time. The crash 
>>seems to occur at random... Everything is fine if hyperthreading is 
>>deactivated.
> 
> 
> Aha!  GENIUS!  *This* is what's been causing my random and irregular
> coLinux lock-ups.  I have a P4 2.80GHz that's been running hyperthreading
> under WinXP Pro.  I turn off hyperthreading, and all lock-ups are gone!
> I'll update the Help forum where I asked for help with this info, and
> when I get a few minutes I'll add this as a Q&A to the Wiki FAQ :^)

Isn't it a better idea to bind to the first processor as long as coLinux 
is not SMP safe? In that case, these kind of problems are easily solved?

Ronald.

Re: [coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Carlos A.S. O. <oli...@uf...>]

Thanks for the information, it now works.

-Carlos

+---------------------------------------------8<--------------+
|Carlos A.S. Oliveira - Ph.D. Candidate
|ISE dept. University of Florida
|oli...@uf... - http://grove.ufl.edu/~oliveira
+---------------------------------------------8<--------------+


On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Gregor Mitsch wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> > linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:100: field `params' has incomplete type
> >
> > What version of gcc are you using? Mine is
> > gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)
>
> I got a similar error when I used gcc v2.95.x.
>
> With version 3.3 the kernel could be compiled without errors.
>
> (Z)aep@colinux:~> gcc --version
> gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 20040125 (prerelease) (Debian)
> Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>
> This is the version from the Debian-testing release.
>
> --Gregor
>

Re: [coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Gregor M. <mi...@ra...>]

Hi Carlos,

> linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:100: field `params' has incomplete type
> 
> What version of gcc are you using? Mine is
> gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)

I got a similar error when I used gcc v2.95.x.

With version 3.3 the kernel could be compiled without errors.

(Z)aep@colinux:~> gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 20040125 (prerelease) (Debian)
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

This is the version from the Debian-testing release.

--Gregor

Re: [coLinux-devel] SMP system freeze completely

[Clemmitt M. S. <sig...@bl...>]

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Benoit Favre wrote:
> I confirm the problem. On a p4, when hyperthreading is activated, colinux 
> freezes the whole system usually on syslog launch at boot time. The crash 
> seems to occur at random... Everything is fine if hyperthreading is 
> deactivated.

Aha!  GENIUS!  *This* is what's been causing my random and irregular
coLinux lock-ups.  I have a P4 2.80GHz that's been running hyperthreading
under WinXP Pro.  I turn off hyperthreading, and all lock-ups are gone!
I'll update the Help forum where I asked for help with this info, and
when I get a few minutes I'll add this as a Q&A to the Wiki FAQ :^)

					Clemmitt Sigler

Re: [coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Carlos A.S. O. <oli...@uf...>]

You are right. I did something stupid when applying the patch. However,
after patching the code, I get errors, like the following:

linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:90: warning: unnamed
   struct/union that defines no instances

linux-2.4.24/include/asm/cooperative.h:100: field `params' has incomplete type

What version of gcc are you using? Mine is
gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)

-carlos

+---------------------------------------------8<--------------+
|Carlos A.S. Oliveira - Ph.D. Candidate
|ISE dept. University of Florida
|oli...@uf... - http://grove.ufl.edu/~oliveira
+---------------------------------------------8<--------------+


On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Dan Aloni wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:47:36PM -0500, Carlos A.S. Oliveira wrote:
>
> > I compiled a new kernel after applying patches, and saved in
> > the colinux directory.
> >
> > When I try to boot it up, I get the following error:
> >
> > colinux: loading configuration from default.colinux.xml
> > daemon: creating monitor
> > daemon: symbol _kernel_start not found
> > daemon: symbol colinux_start not found
>
> According to the output above it appears that you didn't
> apply the coLinux patch.
>
> --
> Dan Aloni
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>
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Re: [coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Dan A. <da...@co...>]

On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 05:47:36PM -0500, Carlos A.S. Oliveira wrote:

> I compiled a new kernel after applying patches, and saved in
> the colinux directory.
> 
> When I try to boot it up, I get the following error:
> 
> colinux: loading configuration from default.colinux.xml
> daemon: creating monitor
> daemon: symbol _kernel_start not found
> daemon: symbol colinux_start not found

According to the output above it appears that you didn't 
apply the coLinux patch.

-- 
Dan Aloni
da...@co...

Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...>]

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Jacques Landru wrote:
|>Would you mind kindly documenting exactly how you did this?  I've
|>attempted the following (and many others) and gotten nowhere:
|>
|
| $ cygrunsrv.exe -I "colinux"           \
| -p "/cygdrive/c/colinux/colinux-20040225-bin/colinux-daemon.exe"  \
| -a "-d" -t "manual" -c "/cygdrive/c/colinux/colinux-20040225-bin/"     \
| -d "colinux" -f "colinux as a service"

Ahh.  I was missing one piece.  --chdir

I also found out, through using instsrv and srvany (but then removing
them after getting cygrunsrv working), that permissions on
default.colinux.xml were not allowing the local system user to read this
file.  The permissions were apparently OK on the other files, since it
works fine after I allowed Everyone read access to the .xml config file.

It's working great now.

Thanks very much.

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Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Jacques L. <la...@en...>]

> Would you mind kindly documenting exactly how you did this?  I've
> attempted the following (and many others) and gotten nowhere:
>


$ cygrunsrv.exe -I "colinux"           \
-p "/cygdrive/c/colinux/colinux-20040225-bin/colinux-daemon.exe"  \
-a "-d" -t "manual" -c "/cygdrive/c/colinux/colinux-20040225-bin/"     \
-d "colinux" -f "colinux as a service"


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Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin


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> | fine for me. Don't forget the -d parm in the colinux command, otherwise
> | colinux console process starts and you cannot force ending it, even when
> | you stop the colinux service.
>
> Would you mind kindly documenting exactly how you did this?  I've
> attempted the following (and many others) and gotten nowhere:
>
> cygrunsrv.exe --install coLinux --path c:\\coLinux\\colinux-daemon.exe
> - --args '-d'
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Jason A. P. <pat...@pc...>]

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Jacques Landru wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I tested colinux running as a service on my Win2K station. As I don't
| have svrany from the reskit, I used cygrunsrv.exe under cygwin. It works
| fine for me. Don't forget the -d parm in the colinux command, otherwise
| colinux console process starts and you cannot force ending it, even when
| you stop the colinux service.

Would you mind kindly documenting exactly how you did this?  I've
attempted the following (and many others) and gotten nowhere:

cygrunsrv.exe --install coLinux --path c:\\coLinux\\colinux-daemon.exe
- --args '-d'

Thanks.

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Re: [coLinux-devel] SMP system freeze completely

[Benoit F. <ben...@li...>]

I confirm the problem. On a p4, when hyperthreading is activated, colinux=20
freezes the whole system usually on syslog launch at boot time. The crash=20
seems to occur at random... Everything is fine if hyperthreading is=20
deactivated.

Le Sunday 14 March 2004 10:38, IWAMURO Motonori a =E9crit :
> At Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:25:23 +0200,
>
> Dan Aloni wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 12:30:46PM +0900, IWAMURO Motonori wrote:
> > > I found that SMP system freeze completely at boot time of coLinux
> > > with TAP-Win32. (If disable TAP-Win32, then not freeze)
>
> <snip>
>
> > Can you please try again with the latest TAP-Win32 driver from
> > the OpenVPN package?
>
> By your suggestion, I tried again with TAP-Win32 from OpenVPN 1.6_rc2.
> But, the problem was not solved.
>
> The timing of system crash is not fixed.
> occasionally, crash after coLinux shutdown.
>
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Re: [coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Marko B. <bo...@ks...>]

Jacques Landru wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> I tested colinux running as a service on my Win2K station. As I don't 
> have svrany from the reskit, I used cygrunsrv.exe under cygwin. It works 
> fine for me. Don't forget the -d parm in the colinux command, otherwise  
> colinux console process starts and you cannot force ending it, even when 
> you stop the colinux service. 

I have a question here: what about safely shutting down coLinux?

Running coLinux as a regular process, I do a reboot and wait for it to 
shutdown (running 'shutdown now' switches to maint. mode) I'm using Debian 
distribution from coLinux.

When you run coLinux as a service, I guess you can also do a reboot, but what 
about shutting down your box?

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[coLinux-devel] Re: NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Jacques L. <la...@en...>]

Hi,

I tested colinux running as a service on my Win2K station. As I don't =
have svrany from the reskit, I used cygrunsrv.exe under cygwin. It works =
fine for me. Don't forget the -d parm in the colinux command, otherwise  =
colinux console process starts and you cannot force ending it, even when =
you stop the colinux service.=20

Hope this can help.

Jacques Landru


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Re: [coLinux-devel] NT service was: Running as non-admin

[Mikhail G. <gu...@go...>]

You (sea...@so...) wrote:

> Parts, but not all, of the resource kit have always been
> freely available. The full resource kit is a commercial offering.

I'm not sure, but this reskit seems much bigger than free parts of NT4
reskit I've downloaded before. May be M$ released it for free as it
already happened with "M$ Services For Unix"?

> SRVANY seems to be available. Is srvany part of the w2k+3 reskit 
> that you downloaded?

Yes, it is.

ps: this reskit also works on XP.

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Re: [coLinux-devel] Getting started building coLinux.

[Ballard J. <sac...@ho...>]

Subject: Re: [coLinux-devel] Getting started building coLinux.


> --- Ballard Jonathan <sac...@ho...> wrote:
> > It is possible to use only MinGW.  Currently, the source code uses
[...]
>
> You could do it from a Mingw-Cross compiler on Linux. I think one of
> our developers was able to build CoLinux using the Mingw linker rather
> than linking to Cygwin.

I heavily modified and compiled coLinux sources, headers, and a portion of
the linux system without GCC, cygwin or MinGW.  I used Microsoft Development
Environment (MDE).  I reached a point where some linux sources were
specifically written for GCC style compilers and that made it very tedious.
I didn't have the time to rewrite the sources to be more portable.  I know
it is possible to compile without cygwin.  I think the 2004 version of MDE,
with updates, would make it a bit easier since it includes some of the
recent C standards.  For a less expensive immediate alternative, I suggest
to grab a coLinux binary and use GCC and either cygwin or MinGW.

[coLinux-devel] compiling new kernel

[Carlos A.S. O. <oli...@uf...>]

Hi,

I compiled a new kernel after applying patches, and saved in
the colinux directory.

When I try to boot it up, I get the following error:

colinux: loading configuration from default.colinux.xml
daemon: creating monitor
daemon: symbol _kernel_start not found
daemon: symbol colinux_start not found
daemon: error initializing
daemon: daemon cleanup
Removing kernel driver
Stopping driver service
Removing driver service
Daemon failed: -4

Does anyone knows what is going wrong?

-Carlos