codemill-spec

[Codemill-spec] Re: Code Mill Spec

[Richard K. <rk...@sw...>]

Hi All,

David Snopek wrote:

> You can't coyright names.  Copyright means the right to control how it it
> copied.  Who ever owns the copyright gets to pick the license.  In the
> open source world the copyright owner is unimportant, its the license that
> they picked.  A lot of people wonder how you get copyrights, well as soon
> as the work is created in tangible form the auther has the copyright.  You
> can go and fill out some forms and pay a fee to get an official copyright
> but technically you don't have to do that until you are suing someone for
> copyright infringement.
>
> With names you have to worry about trademarks.  If none of the people who
> are using the name CodeMill have the little floating "TM" after it its
> safe.  And i think that after more than one person uses the name, it is no
> longer eligible for a trademark.
>
> Lots of software projects have the same or very similar names.  This
> shouldn;t be a problem.

Thanks for the info.



What do you think of these requirements ?
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Requirements (according to Richard anyway )

1) Create a class from scratch.
2) Derive a class from a base class / classes.
3) Add a member variable with a given visibility.
4) Add a member function with a given visibility and attributes like
virtual/const etc.
5) The ability to have coding style templates to suit different styles
and a custom user defined style.
6) The generated code must be under 'no license'.
7) The interface to Code Mill should a command line app, which can be
used by Code Crusader etc.
8) The command line interface should be easy enough to use by a user on
the command line.


The command line interface should properly look +- like this :
"codemill -c NewClass -b DeriveClass -I./ -t template.5 -o output.cc
output.h"
Where -c is the class to create
-b for the class to derive from (base class)
-I for the search paths
-t coding standard to use.
-o the output files to create the class in.

This would look for file template.5 in the codemill template directory
and
generate a class to the users coding standards.

I'm sure there are many more requirements so please add/change mine.
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regards,
Richard.

Re: [Codemill-spec] Re: Code Mill Spec

[David S. <xe...@ex...>]

Richard Kolb wrote:

> 6) The generated code must be under 'no license'.

I agree with what you mean by this statement, but it made me think of
something.  Most of the code I write is under LGPL and the GPL.  For every new
bloody file I create, I have to copy/paste the info about the license into the
top of the file.  I also put a little header with a description of the file and
some macros that CVS expands.  It would be really helpfull if I could some how
point to a file containing the software license/header info and CodeMill could
copy that into the created file.  I can;t think of an intuitive way to work
this into the syntax...

        -- David Snopek

Re: [Codemill-spec] Re: Code Mill Spec

[Richard K. <rk...@sw...>]

Hi All,

David Snopek wrote:

> Richard Kolb wrote:
>
> > 6) The generated code must be under 'no license'.
>
> I agree with what you mean by this statement, but it made me think of
> something.  Most of the code I write is under LGPL and the GPL.  For every new
> bloody file I create, I have to copy/paste the info about the license into the
> top of the file.  I also put a little header with a description of the file and
> some macros that CVS expands.  It would be really helpfull if I could some how
> point to a file containing the software license/header info and CodeMill could
> copy that into the created file.  I can;t think of an intuitive way to work
> this into the syntax...

This is a very good idea,
We could add a -L option to codemill that would add a license template at the top
of the generated code,
but by default it should not add any license,
this would work similarly to the template,
ie a few defaults licenses and custom licenses.

I don't think we should add things like copy right etc. to the top of source
files,
This would start complicating things ,
and convert a swiss army knife into a pile of spaghetti, so to speak,

If someone would like to do such a thing they should add a custom license.

Thanks,
Richard.