Timed out for waiting for the udev queue being empty
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I have been happily using Clonezilla for years, including an 3 earlier HP Spectre X360-14 OLED. I received a new, latest generation, Spectre yesterday and Clonezille boots, but as soon as one selects an option it hangs and eventually gives the "Timed out for waiting for the udev queue being empty" message.
I have tried:
clonezilla-live-3.1.2-9-amd64
clonezilla-live-20240116-mantic-amd64
and
clonezilla-live-3.1.2-20-amd64
All fail with the same message.
Searching elsewhere, it's evident that this problem is a general Linux (rather than Clonezilla) issue and happens on other, non-HP, computers as well.
IS ANYONE AT Clonezilla.org OR IN THE WIDER LINUS COMMUNITY WORKING ON FINDING A SOLUTION FOR THIS?
Thanks,
Lenny Robbins
Leonard G. Robbins
Professore di Genetica (in pensione), Università di Siena
Professor Emeritus, Michigan State University
Sviluppatore di Ausili per Disabili, Developer of Equipment for Persons with Disabilities
Via Borgo di Tressa 317/C
53014 Ponte a Tressa (SI) ITALIA
Please give testing Clonezilla live 20240327-noble a try:
https://clonezilla.org/
It comes with newer Linux kernel so your hardware might be supported better.
Steven
I downloaded and unzipped 20240327-noble. Unfortunately it gives the same timed out error. The only difference I see is that instead of a blank screen while waiting for the time out there's the Clonezilla splash screen.
Do you know any GNU/Linux work for that machine?
Steven
No, I don't. HP does sell that model with Linux instead of wondowz, but I
don't know if it has the same BIOS.
Il dom 31 mar 2024, 14:27 Steven Shiau steven_shiau@users.sourceforge.net
ha scritto:
Perhaps these two links might give you a clue about what is happening. The
first regards installing Ubuntu on a different (consumer market) HP machine
and suggests a workaround.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1478078/ubuntu-install-hangs-timed-out-for-waiting-the-udev-queue-being-empty
The suggestion was: "a work around i found was to hold shift during boot,
press e and add noapic nomodeset to the boot parameters", but I don't see
that I can do this while booting from Clonezilla Live.
The other link:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/udev-reaching-timeout-864792/
talks of setting udev\rules to get around a timeout problem.
I don't think a Clonezilla end user can use those suggestions, but perhaps
they will be meaningful to you.
Ciao,
Lenny
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 3:27 PM Steven Shiau steven_shiau@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
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Leonard G. Robbins
Professore di Genetica (in pensione), Università di Siena
Professor Emeritus, Michigan State University
Sviluppatore di Ausili per Disabili, Developer of Equipment for Persons
with Disabilities Via Borgo di Tressa 317/C
53014 Ponte a Tressa (SI) ITALIA
cell: 39/3276109669 e-mail: robbinsleonard@gmail.com
Hi Steven,
Any progress? A little further information in case it is of some use:
The HP X360-14 OLED bought 6 months ago has an Intel® Core™ i7-1255U and Clonezilla works perfectly.
The HP X360-14 I received a week or so ago has an Intel® Core® Ultra 7 155H and gives this error with current stable, alternate stable, test (noble) and with some older releases as well (I tried them not expecting them to work and they didn't).
Another linux user (I don't recall whether Clonezilla or just a linux distro) reported the same problem some time ago with a Centrino - going from one processor generation to the next, he/she got the same error and it was not fixed until the next BIOS update.
Maybe you can give Clonezilla live 3.1.2-21 a try:
https://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
Or you can try to choose the other mode in boot menu:
https://clonezilla.org//clonezilla-live/doc/01_Save_disk_image/images/ocs-01-bootmenu.png
Then choose the "failsafe mode" menu:
https://clonezilla.org//clonezilla-live/doc/01_Save_disk_image/images/ocs-01-b-sub-boot-menu.png
Steven
Thanks for the suggestions, but still no joy.
3.1.2-21 gives the same long wait followed by "Timed out ..."
booting in SafeMode seems to just give an unending hang with only the
cursor on a blank, black screen
I would like to try the workaround suggested at another forum of adding
noapic and nomodeset to the script. I can enter edit mode but then I
don't know what to do.
Do I just add noapic to the $linux_cmd /live/vmlinux ... line? (nomodeset
is already there)
Is a particular order needed? (just before nomodeset?)
What do I do to run the edited boot script? (esc backs up to the first
screen, and enter then does just as before - long wait and "Timed out ...")
Ciao,
Lenny
Last edit: Steven Shiau 2024-04-06
You can forget my last questions. I eventually found that pushing F10 runs
the edited boot and now know that adding noapic (before nomodeset) doesn't
help - same timeout.
Last edit: Steven Shiau 2024-04-06
Well, in that case, it seems the Linux kernel just can not support your hardware. Maybe you have to wait for newer Linux kernel.
Steven