I have been using and booting clonezilla-live quite successfully installed to a Ubuntu partition for quite some time using the following grub2 menu in /etc/grub.d/40_custom :
I have used many previous test builds without problems, but as soon as I try to use a later .iso ,from Clonezilla live 2.4.0-2 onwards, which is now using systemd, after selecting my choice of keyboard I can only boot to a completely blank black screen with no information available as to how far the boot has progressed.
If I remove “nomodeset” from the boot options it boots to a black screen with a flashing cursor in the top left corner only, after I have selected my keyboard choice.
Looking at the changelog for clonezilla-live-2.4.0-7-amd64.iso I see :
Switched to use live-build/live-boot/live-config v4. All the boot parameters should remain the same.
I have tried amending the linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz ............. line above to include many permutations of live-build/live-boot/live-config v4 without success.
I have been watching this thread hoping for a solution also. The last Clonezilla live that works for me is "clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-i686-pae.zip" and its .iso. Any of the 2.4 versions result in the same black screen with a flashing cursor in the top left corner. It seems to fail just before the message "The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
The failures are the same whether it is started from a partition containing clonezilla, or from an iso. I have three systems with the same symptoms (a 686 Dell, a 64 bit dual core Sony Vaio, and a 64 bit Toshiba Satellite.
Running a 2.4 Zilla from a CD is fine, its only when run from the hard drive that it is a problem.
I cannot believe we are the only ones running Clonezilla from the hard drive.
Ray
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I need more info to reproduce the issue here.
Is your machine using uEFI or legacy BIOS?
BTW, did you try the testing Clonezilla live on http://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
?
Like 20150420-vivid or 2.4.1-11.
Thanks.
Steven.
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I have tested all the version 2.4 Clonezilla Live with the same results including both mentioned. The iso's are run from the xubuntu partition on a dell dimension 4600, the others are zip versions from a separate partition. All versions 2.3.2-28 and before run fine.
I am using legacy BIOS on all three machines and I use 64 bit versions on machines that are capable and 686 or 586 on the Dell. I have also tried a 386 version (Ubuntu).
They all hang ate the same point, just before where the message should be printed at the top of the screen "The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
And yes if I burn the iso to a cd, it boots fine. The problem is unique to running from the hard disk installed version either from an iso or a dedicated partition.
Should not be hard to reproduce unless the boot parameters are different for this version versus the previous versions.
I have tried 2.4.1-11 .iso with the same result - booting goes as far as selecting a british keyboard then to a blank screen...............
When I have to use Ctrl/Alt/Del to exit the blank screen I see a one line entry showing a few numbers that flashes by so quickly without me being able to read or remember the numbers properly to give a clue as to what is wrong .
Is your machine using uEFI or legacy BIOS?
uEFI on the Xubuntu partition clonezilla is installed to...........
I can use 2.4.1-11 .iso installed to a USB stick with Tuxboot and boot successfully.
It seems strange it will not boot to any .iso that is now using systemd.
regards
Peter
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@Ray
Same as I mentioned to Peter, do you have different, older machine you can try? I need to narrow the problem to see if it's on the hardware or at least it's triggered by some hardware or not. It used to have a problem when a network card was not supported, some of the live-config modules failed to run and the rest was not executed. However, that one has been fixed. Maybe this is the new issue similar to that one because I all and boot the testing Clonezilla live on my physical machine here, and virtual machines in virtualbox and vmware ws.
Steven.
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All three machines have a different architecture with the DELL being the oldest. All run fine using the latest Clonezilla from a booted CD. All three hang when run from the partition at the same place:
just before the message :::
"The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
Should appear at the top of the screen which is just before Clonezilla actually starts.
Is there a way to print out when the jobs in ocs-live.d start/end. When it hangs, the only thing that works is Cntl-Alt-Del so we cannot poke around.
Ray
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OK, I knew the problem. It's nothing to do with systemd, instead it's related to the new live-boot/live-config (version 4) used in Clonezilla live 2.4. You have to add "components" in the boot parameters. Check the file /syslinux/isolinux.cfg in Clonezilla live and you will find that.
Therefore the old menuentry
menuentry "Clonezilla live" {
set isofile="/isos/clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-amd64.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap edd=on nomodeset vga=791 ip=frommedia toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
now should be
menuentry "Clonezilla live" {
set isofile="/isos/clonezilla-live-2.4.1-19-amd64.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live config components noswap edd=on nomodeset vga=791 ip=frommedia toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
(You can use "config" instead of "live-config" in live-boot/live-config v4).
Please let me know the results.
Thanks.
Steven.
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If I use my original menuentry with your changes I still finish booting to a blank screen after the keyboard options screen are seen.
If I use the Live or Failsafe linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz lines from the isolinux.cfg I do not see any keyboard options screen but the boot screen stops at :
Busybox v1.22.1
bin/sh :can't access tty;job control turned off
initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
modprobe : module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep
I don't know if this information will help you or is misleading
regards
Peter
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In that case I really have no idea where went wrong there. Not sure if it's hardware issue...
This is really weird to me. For Clonezilla live on USB flash drive or CD, it boots successfully there. However, if it's on the hard drive, then it won't work. How come...
If you find any clues, please let me know.
Steven.
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Works great here also. I did take the information a little farther and came to following conclusions:
Version 2.4.0 and 2.4.1 only needs the "username=user" option
The union/overlay causes boot to fail.
Version 2.4.2 needs both "union=overlay" and "username=user" options
I also noticed that "components" is not required, but does not affect booting if it is there.
I tested both the iso file boot and booting from a disk partition with the same results on my Dell (intel 686) and Sony (intel 64 bit) machines. I have not tried the Toshiba (amd 64) yet.
Let's see what else breaks before this is released as stable.
Ray
EDIT:: Just changed the boot parameters on my Toshiba (amd 64) machine and it is running Clonezilla 2.4.2-4 from a partition on the hard drive as I write this.
Last edit: Raymond 2015-05-31
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Thanks for confirming that.
In the future please always check the file isolinux/isolinux.cfg for boot parameters before putting Clonezilla live in hard drive.
Steven.
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hallo
I have been using and booting clonezilla-live quite successfully installed to a Ubuntu partition for quite some time using the following grub2 menu in /etc/grub.d/40_custom :
menuentry "Clonezilla live" {
set isofile="/isos/clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-amd64.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap edd=on nomodeset vga=791 ip=frommedia toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
I have used many previous test builds without problems, but as soon as I try to use a later .iso ,from Clonezilla live 2.4.0-2 onwards, which is now using systemd, after selecting my choice of keyboard I can only boot to a completely blank black screen with no information available as to how far the boot has progressed.
If I remove “nomodeset” from the boot options it boots to a black screen with a flashing cursor in the top left corner only, after I have selected my keyboard choice.
Looking at the changelog for clonezilla-live-2.4.0-7-amd64.iso I see :
Switched to use live-build/live-boot/live-config v4. All the boot parameters should remain the same.
I have tried amending the linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz ............. line above to include many permutations of live-build/live-boot/live-config v4 without success.
I have tried resorting to using the full :
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap nolocales edd=on nomodeset ocs_live_run=\"ocs-live-general\" ocs_live_extra_param=\"\" keyboard-layouts=\"\" ocs_live_batch=\"no\" locales=\"\" vga=788 ip=frommedia nosplash toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
from the advice on :
http://clonezilla.org/livehd.php
without success, and also tried many permutations by deleting a variety of the options above.
I would appreciate any help or suggestions you have to help get past the black screen and an explanation of :
"Switched to use live-build/live-boot/live-config v4. All the boot parameters should remain the same."
thanks for your help as always
peter
I have been watching this thread hoping for a solution also. The last Clonezilla live that works for me is "clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-i686-pae.zip" and its .iso. Any of the 2.4 versions result in the same black screen with a flashing cursor in the top left corner. It seems to fail just before the message "The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
The failures are the same whether it is started from a partition containing clonezilla, or from an iso. I have three systems with the same symptoms (a 686 Dell, a 64 bit dual core Sony Vaio, and a 64 bit Toshiba Satellite.
Running a 2.4 Zilla from a CD is fine, its only when run from the hard drive that it is a problem.
I cannot believe we are the only ones running Clonezilla from the hard drive.
Ray
I need more info to reproduce the issue here.
Is your machine using uEFI or legacy BIOS?
BTW, did you try the testing Clonezilla live on
http://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
?
Like 20150420-vivid or 2.4.1-11.
Thanks.
Steven.
I have tested all the version 2.4 Clonezilla Live with the same results including both mentioned. The iso's are run from the xubuntu partition on a dell dimension 4600, the others are zip versions from a separate partition. All versions 2.3.2-28 and before run fine.
I am using legacy BIOS on all three machines and I use 64 bit versions on machines that are capable and 686 or 586 on the Dell. I have also tried a 386 version (Ubuntu).
They all hang ate the same point, just before where the message should be printed at the top of the screen "The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
And yes if I burn the iso to a cd, it boots fine. The problem is unique to running from the hard disk installed version either from an iso or a dedicated partition.
Should not be hard to reproduce unless the boot parameters are different for this version versus the previous versions.
My "40_Custom"
menuentry "Clonezilla 2.3.2-28 Backup System" {
set root=(hd0,3)
linux /live-hd/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap nolocales edd=on nomodeset locales=en_US.UTF-8 ocs_live_run=\"ocs-live-general\" ocs_live_extra_param=\"\" keyboard-layouts=\"us\" vga=788 ip=frommedia nosplash live-media-path=/live-hd bootfrom=/dev/sda3 toram=filesystem.squashfs
initrd /live-hd/initrd.img
}
menuentry "Clonezilla 2.3.2-28 Backup VGA 640x480" {
set root=(hd0,3)
linux /live-hd/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap nolocales edd=on nomodeset locales=en_US.UTF-8 ocs_live_run=\"ocs-live-general\" ocs_live_extra_param=\"\" keyboard-layouts=\"us\" vga=normal ip=frommedia nosplash live-media-path=/live-hd bootfrom=/dev/sda3 toram=filesystem.squashfs
initrd /live-hd/initrd.img
}
Replace 2.3.2-28 with any 2.4 version, it fails...............
My "41_Custom"
menuentry "ISO Clone Zilla live 2.3.2-28" {
set isofile="/home/sysadmin/Downloads/clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-i686-pae.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap nolocales edd=on nomodeset ocs_live_run=\"ocs-live-general\" ocs_live_extra_param=\"\" keyboard-layouts=\"NONE\" ocs_live_batch=\"no\" locales=en_US.UTF-8 vga=788 ip=frommedia nosplash toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
menuentry "ISO Clone Zilla live 2.4.1-6" {
set isofile="/home/sysadmin/Downloads/clonezilla-live-2.4.1-6-i686-pae.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap nolocales edd=on nomodeset ocs_live_run=\"ocs-live-general\" ocs_live_extra_param=\"\" keyboard-layouts=\"NONE\" ocs_live_batch=\"no\" locales=en_US.UTF-8 vga=788 ip=frommedia nosplash toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
2.3.2-28 version works.................Any 2.4 fails..........
Ray
I have tried 2.4.1-11 .iso with the same result - booting goes as far as selecting a british keyboard then to a blank screen...............
When I have to use Ctrl/Alt/Del to exit the blank screen I see a one line entry showing a few numbers that flashes by so quickly without me being able to read or remember the numbers properly to give a clue as to what is wrong .
Is your machine using uEFI or legacy BIOS?
uEFI on the Xubuntu partition clonezilla is installed to...........
I can use 2.4.1-11 .iso installed to a USB stick with Tuxboot and boot successfully.
It seems strange it will not boot to any .iso that is now using systemd.
regards
Peter
@Peter,
Do you have different machine you can try? Especially some older machine?
Steven.
@Ray
Same as I mentioned to Peter, do you have different, older machine you can try? I need to narrow the problem to see if it's on the hardware or at least it's triggered by some hardware or not. It used to have a problem when a network card was not supported, some of the live-config modules failed to run and the rest was not executed. However, that one has been fixed. Maybe this is the new issue similar to that one because I all and boot the testing Clonezilla live on my physical machine here, and virtual machines in virtualbox and vmware ws.
Steven.
@Steve
I have 3 computers that use Clonezilla from a partition on the hard drive.
1) Dell Dimension 4600 - Architecture: i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 15
Model: 3
2) Sony VAIO VGN-FE880E - Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family: 6
Model: 15
Model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz
3) Toshiba Satellite C6550-S5126
Processor: AMD E-240 Processor 1.5 GHz
Installed RAM: 3.00 GB
All three machines have a different architecture with the DELL being the oldest. All run fine using the latest Clonezilla from a booted CD. All three hang when run from the partition at the same place:
just before the message :::
"The jobs in /etc/ocs/ocs-live.d/ are finished. Start "ocs-live-general" now."
Should appear at the top of the screen which is just before Clonezilla actually starts.
Is there a way to print out when the jobs in ocs-live.d start/end. When it hangs, the only thing that works is Cntl-Alt-Del so we cannot poke around.
Ray
Hallo Steve
I only have this fairly new computer now :
Machine: Mobo: Gigabyte model: H97M-HD3 v: x.x Bios: American Megatrends v: F5 date: 06/26/2014
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i5-4690 (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 28012
clock speeds: max: 3900 MHz 1: 2630 MHz 2: 3851 MHz 3: 2689 MHz 4: 2812 MHz
Graphics: Card-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0
Card-2: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750] bus-ID: 01:00.0
Display Server: X.org 1.17.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: vesa)
tty size: 116x34 Advanced Data: N/A for root
I too cannot see any information on the screen as it stops booting, and Ctrl-shift-Del is the only way out ...............
regards
peter
OK, I knew the problem. It's nothing to do with systemd, instead it's related to the new live-boot/live-config (version 4) used in Clonezilla live 2.4. You have to add "components" in the boot parameters. Check the file /syslinux/isolinux.cfg in Clonezilla live and you will find that.
Therefore the old menuentry
menuentry "Clonezilla live" {
set isofile="/isos/clonezilla-live-2.3.2-28-amd64.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live live-config noswap edd=on nomodeset vga=791 ip=frommedia toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
now should be
menuentry "Clonezilla live" {
set isofile="/isos/clonezilla-live-2.4.1-19-amd64.iso"
loopback loop $isofile
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz boot=live config components noswap edd=on nomodeset vga=791 ip=frommedia toram=filesystem.squashfs findiso=$isofile
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
(You can use "config" instead of "live-config" in live-boot/live-config v4).
Please let me know the results.
Thanks.
Steven.
It did not help me at all....same as before. Tried it on the Dell and the Sony. I am waiting to see if Peter had the same results as I did.
Ray
Sorry Steven
the same result for me I am afraid :
If I use my original menuentry with your changes I still finish booting to a blank screen after the keyboard options screen are seen.
If I use the Live or Failsafe linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz lines from the isolinux.cfg I do not see any keyboard options screen but the boot screen stops at :
Busybox v1.22.1
bin/sh :can't access tty;job control turned off
initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system
modprobe : module ehci-orion not found in modules.dep
I don't know if this information will help you or is misleading
regards
Peter
In that case I really have no idea where went wrong there. Not sure if it's hardware issue...
This is really weird to me. For Clonezilla live on USB flash drive or CD, it boots successfully there. However, if it's on the hard drive, then it won't work. How come...
If you find any clues, please let me know.
Steven.
Problem solved !
I found most of the answer in your reply to :
https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/Help/thread/f8b22b86/#5aa6
After adding union=overlay and username=user to the
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz menu line
it boots up again.............................
thanks Steven
I hope it works for you too Raymond
regards
Peter
Thanks Peter,
Works great here also. I did take the information a little farther and came to following conclusions:
Version 2.4.0 and 2.4.1 only needs the "username=user" option
The union/overlay causes boot to fail.
Version 2.4.2 needs both "union=overlay" and "username=user" options
I also noticed that "components" is not required, but does not affect booting if it is there.
I tested both the iso file boot and booting from a disk partition with the same results on my Dell (intel 686) and Sony (intel 64 bit) machines. I have not tried the Toshiba (amd 64) yet.
Let's see what else breaks before this is released as stable.
Ray
EDIT:: Just changed the boot parameters on my Toshiba (amd 64) machine and it is running Clonezilla 2.4.2-4 from a partition on the hard drive as I write this.
Last edit: Raymond 2015-05-31
Great news
I'm on :
clonezilla-live-2.4.2-3-amd64.iso
at the moment so that makes sense
regards
Peter
Thanks for confirming that.
In the future please always check the file isolinux/isolinux.cfg for boot parameters before putting Clonezilla live in hard drive.
Steven.