Description of problem:
Attempting to backup RAID 5 configured workstation on Intel ICH10D SATA Controller recieve a "No Input Device!" Error
How reproducible:
Follow steps for beginner mode to backup hard drive
Steps to Reproduce:
Mounting a Windows XP shared folder as /home/partimag (Samba Server)
Selecting default options in beginner mode to backup all drives (or individually)
Run backup, confirm yes if prompted
Actual results:
"No Input Device!" Error
Expected results:
Backup image of RAID array (3 drives)
Some info about the Clonezilla live environment (PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THEM!):
*********************************************************
The contents of /live/image/Clonezilla-Live-Version:
*********************************************************
Installed DRBL/Clonezilla related packages:
drbl-1.9.4-47
clonezilla-2.3.3-71
mkswap-uuid-0.1.1-1
drbl-partimage-0.6.7-1drbl
drbl-ntfsprogs-2.0.0-4
partclone-0.1.1-15
drbl-chntpw-0.0.20040818-7
drbl-lzop-1.02-0.8drbl
pigz-2.1.4-1drbl
pbzip2-1.0.5-1drbl
udpcast-20081213-1drbl
*********************************************************
/proc/partitions:
major minor #blocks name
7 0 94784 loop0
8 0 156290904 sda
8 1 156290872 sda1
8 16 156290904 sdb
8 32 156290904 sdc
*********************************************************
Partition lists on the system:
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
*********************************************************
The info from blkid:
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
*********************************************************
Clonezilla image repository dir /home/partimag is cifs
*********************************************************
===
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Looks like the kernel from Clonezilla live does not support your RAID card. I can not tell which version of Clonezilla live are you using. If it's Clonezilla live 1.2.2-26, how about give Clonezilla live 20090812-jaunty a try? It comes with different kernel, so maybe it supports your RAID card.
Steven.
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Please give Clonezilla live 1.2.3-1 or 20090831-karmic a try. It comes with some packages required for fake RAID. However, if the device name is mapped as /dev/mapper/, not /dev/[sh]d[a-z], I still think Clonezilla won't work...
BTW, here we do not have such RAID card here, so I did not test it.
Please let us know the results.
Steven.
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No luck with the Clonezilla live 20090812-jaunty version either.
Since Clonezilla recognizes the disks seperatly (sda, sdb, sdc) is there a way in expert settings to copy the information off the disks without it being in a partition?
If so I can try to copy the information both ways and see if I can backup that way.
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Joshua,
Please give Clonezilla live 1.2.3-1 or 20090831-karmic a try. It comes with some packages required for fake RAID.
However, if the device name is mapped as /dev/mapper/, not /dev/[hs]d[a-z], Clonezilla should not work.
Since we have no such card here, we did not test here.
Please let us know the results.
Steven.
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I have the Intel ICH10R motherboard based RAID which seems to be the most common on all the X58 motherboards to support the recent Nehalem processors. In order to get RAID to work, I have to uses
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I'm not sure if the ICH10D is similar to the ICH10R, but I have the latter and it is necessary to use dmraid to get RAID working under Linux Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
I'm not sure if the ICH10D is similar to the ICH10R, but I have the latter and it is necessary to use dmraid to get RAID working under Linux Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
Mark,
Actually the packages and module required for this kind of "fake RAID" are included in Clonezilla live. However, since I have no such fake RAID here, I can not test it.
Could you please run the following commands on the machine after booting Clonezilla live:
1. sudo -i
2. /opt/drbl/sbin/ocs-live-bug-report
3. lsmod
Then post the file created in (2) and the result of (3).
Thanks.
Steven.
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The dmraid recognizes my array as does the mdadm method.
As you said with dmraid using the /dev/mapper/isw_xxxxxx_Volume1 as the device clonezilla does not see it.
With mdadm I can get it to map as /dev/md[0-9]. Is there any way to mask/alias mdx as a hdx or sdx device so that clonezilla will try to backup the RAID volume as hard disk?
On a side using the option to backup a partition instead of the whole drive shows partitions on sda and sdb of my RAID array but not sdc.
Thanks,
Joshua
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"With mdadm I can get it to map as /dev/md[0-9]. Is there any way to mask/alias mdx as a hdx or sdx device so that clonezilla will try to backup the RAID volume as hard disk? " -> We will have to expand the program "/opt/drbl/sbin/create-cciss-mapping" to do the similar things... Here I do not have such fake RAID card, so I can only guess without testing...
Steven.
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The device is built into the motherboard and if the windows driver is any indication the ICH8R, ICH9R, ICH10R, ICH10D0, ICH10PCH controllers use the same driver in windows.
Hope this helps,
Joshua
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I am having a similar issue with an NVidia firmware (fakeRAID) controller.
Here is my output, as suggested above.
CLONEZILLA-LIVE-BUG-RPT-20090929-1458.txt:
-----CUT BEGIN HERE-----------------------------
Description of problem: I want to take a partition image of my NTFS OS partition (sda1, i think) but clonezilla only sees sda2. I have an NVIDIA RAID controller with two western digital 500GB drives in a RAID 0 configuration.
How reproducible:
Steps to Reproduce:
Actual results:
Expected results:
Some info about the Clonezilla live environment (PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THEM!):
*********************************************************
The contents of /live/image/Clonezilla-Live-Version:
clonezilla-live-20090919-karmic
This Clonezilla live iso file was created by this command:
ocs-iso -ocs-live-boot-menu-option u -extra-boot-param edd=on -s -i 20090919-karmic
*********************************************************
Installed DRBL/Clonezilla related packages: drbl-1.9.4-62 clonezilla-2.3.3-94 mkswap-uuid-0.1.1-1 drbl-partimage-0.6.7-1drbl drbl-ntfsprogs-2.0.0-4 partclone-0.1.9-1 drbl-chntpw-0.0.20040818-7 drbl-lzop-1.02-0.8drbl pigz-2.1.5-1drbl pbzip2-1.0.5-1drbl udpcast-20081213-1drbl
*********************************************************
/proc/partitions:
major minor #blocks name
Although it indicates that the issue is with GNU Parted. I have used the GParted 0.4.6 live disk to create the EXT2 partition without any problems.
DMRaid seems to be working. I am able to mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc1 without any problems
Is this an issue with with Clonezilla itself?
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I am really excited to get clonezilla into our environment!
Kindest Regards,
-==Ryan==-
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Yes, this is the issue with Cloneizlla, since it does not support FakeRAID device. Now clonezilla only supports the device name like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/hda, /dev/hdb…
I still do not have an chance to find a FakeRAID device to test it. Maybe we have to buy one to test it. Any one you recommend?
Steven.
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Looks like a lot of their boards come with the on-board RAID link above will give you genuine Intel boards, any non-Intel board with those chipests should support the Intel RAID setup.
Joshua
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You can buy these for around $200 in the US. If you buy it this Friday (so-called "Black Friday") or else on Cyber Monday you might find an even cheaper deal. Most X58 motherboards use this Intel chipset so perhaps just use the following search to look for the best deal: http://www.dealighted.com/?search=X58&sa.x=0&sa.y=0
Regards,
Mark
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Description of problem:
Attempting to backup RAID 5 configured workstation on Intel ICH10D SATA Controller recieve a "No Input Device!" Error
How reproducible:
Follow steps for beginner mode to backup hard drive
Steps to Reproduce:
Mounting a Windows XP shared folder as /home/partimag (Samba Server)
Selecting default options in beginner mode to backup all drives (or individually)
Run backup, confirm yes if prompted
Actual results:
"No Input Device!" Error
Expected results:
Backup image of RAID array (3 drives)
Some info about the Clonezilla live environment (PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THEM!):
*********************************************************
The contents of /live/image/Clonezilla-Live-Version:
*********************************************************
Installed DRBL/Clonezilla related packages:
drbl-1.9.4-47
clonezilla-2.3.3-71
mkswap-uuid-0.1.1-1
drbl-partimage-0.6.7-1drbl
drbl-ntfsprogs-2.0.0-4
partclone-0.1.1-15
drbl-chntpw-0.0.20040818-7
drbl-lzop-1.02-0.8drbl
pigz-2.1.4-1drbl
pbzip2-1.0.5-1drbl
udpcast-20081213-1drbl
*********************************************************
/proc/partitions:
major minor #blocks name
7 0 94784 loop0
8 0 156290904 sda
8 1 156290872 sda1
8 16 156290904 sdb
8 32 156290904 sdc
*********************************************************
Partition lists on the system:
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
Error: /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
*********************************************************
The info from blkid:
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
*********************************************************
Clonezilla image repository dir /home/partimag is cifs
*********************************************************
===
Looks like the kernel from Clonezilla live does not support your RAID card. I can not tell which version of Clonezilla live are you using. If it's Clonezilla live 1.2.2-26, how about give Clonezilla live 20090812-jaunty a try? It comes with different kernel, so maybe it supports your RAID card.
Steven.
Using 20090727-jaunty version of Clonezilla Live disk.
I will download and try the Alternate Ubuntu version and see if I can get that to work.
According to this artical I may need the functionality of "FakeRaid" avaiable in Ubuntu. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
Please give Clonezilla live 1.2.3-1 or 20090831-karmic a try. It comes with some packages required for fake RAID. However, if the device name is mapped as /dev/mapper/, not /dev/[sh]d[a-z], I still think Clonezilla won't work...
BTW, here we do not have such RAID card here, so I did not test it.
Please let us know the results.
Steven.
No luck with the Clonezilla live 20090812-jaunty version either.
Since Clonezilla recognizes the disks seperatly (sda, sdb, sdc) is there a way in expert settings to copy the information off the disks without it being in a partition?
If so I can try to copy the information both ways and see if I can backup that way.
Joshua,
Please give Clonezilla live 1.2.3-1 or 20090831-karmic a try. It comes with some packages required for fake RAID.
However, if the device name is mapped as /dev/mapper/, not /dev/[hs]d[a-z], Clonezilla should not work.
Since we have no such card here, we did not test here.
Please let us know the results.
Steven.
Hi Steven,
I have the Intel ICH10R motherboard based RAID which seems to be the most common on all the X58 motherboards to support the recent Nehalem processors. In order to get RAID to work, I have to uses
I'm not sure if the ICH10D is similar to the ICH10R, but I have the latter and it is necessary to use dmraid to get RAID working under Linux Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
As per the Clonezilla FAQ, software RAID is not currently supported. I notice however that gparted is now meant to work with dmraid:
http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=11965
In this case, would it be feasible to make Clonezilla work with the common type of software RAID?
Thanks,
Mark
I'm not sure if the ICH10D is similar to the ICH10R, but I have the latter and it is necessary to use dmraid to get RAID working under Linux Ubuntu:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
As per the Clonezilla FAQ, software RAID is not currently supported. I notice however that gparted is now meant to work with dmraid:
http://gparted-forum.surf4.info/viewtopic.php?id=11965
In this case, would it be feasible to make Clonezilla work with the common type of software RAID?
Thanks,
Mark
Mark,
Actually the packages and module required for this kind of "fake RAID" are included in Clonezilla live. However, since I have no such fake RAID here, I can not test it.
Could you please run the following commands on the machine after booting Clonezilla live:
1. sudo -i
2. /opt/drbl/sbin/ocs-live-bug-report
3. lsmod
Then post the file created in (2) and the result of (3).
Thanks.
Steven.
Steven,
The dmraid recognizes my array as does the mdadm method.
As you said with dmraid using the /dev/mapper/isw_xxxxxx_Volume1 as the device clonezilla does not see it.
With mdadm I can get it to map as /dev/md[0-9]. Is there any way to mask/alias mdx as a hdx or sdx device so that clonezilla will try to backup the RAID volume as hard disk?
On a side using the option to backup a partition instead of the whole drive shows partitions on sda and sdb of my RAID array but not sdc.
Thanks,
Joshua
"With mdadm I can get it to map as /dev/md[0-9]. Is there any way to mask/alias mdx as a hdx or sdx device so that clonezilla will try to backup the RAID volume as hard disk? " -> We will have to expand the program "/opt/drbl/sbin/create-cciss-mapping" to do the similar things... Here I do not have such fake RAID card, so I can only guess without testing...
Steven.
Steven,
I can do some testing if you let me know what I need to do.
Joshua
Joshua,
Thanks. However, the first thing is I have to find such a card so I can start write the program... It's easier for me to write that.
Steven.
Steven,
The device is built into the motherboard and if the windows driver is any indication the ICH8R, ICH9R, ICH10R, ICH10D0, ICH10PCH controllers use the same driver in windows.
Hope this helps,
Joshua
Joshua,
Thanks. I still do not have any chance to find such a RAID card or mother board with it here...
Steven.
Hello Steven,
I am having a similar issue with an NVidia firmware (fakeRAID) controller.
Here is my output, as suggested above.
CLONEZILLA-LIVE-BUG-RPT-20090929-1458.txt:
-----CUT BEGIN HERE-----------------------------
Description of problem: I want to take a partition image of my NTFS OS partition (sda1, i think) but clonezilla only sees sda2. I have an NVIDIA RAID controller with two western digital 500GB drives in a RAID 0 configuration.
How reproducible:
Steps to Reproduce:
Actual results:
Expected results:
Some info about the Clonezilla live environment (PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THEM!):
*********************************************************
The contents of /live/image/Clonezilla-Live-Version:
clonezilla-live-20090919-karmic
This Clonezilla live iso file was created by this command:
ocs-iso -ocs-live-boot-menu-option u -extra-boot-param edd=on -s -i 20090919-karmic
*********************************************************
Installed DRBL/Clonezilla related packages: drbl-1.9.4-62 clonezilla-2.3.3-94 mkswap-uuid-0.1.1-1 drbl-partimage-0.6.7-1drbl drbl-ntfsprogs-2.0.0-4 partclone-0.1.9-1 drbl-chntpw-0.0.20040818-7 drbl-lzop-1.02-0.8drbl pigz-2.1.5-1drbl pbzip2-1.0.5-1drbl udpcast-20081213-1drbl
*********************************************************
/proc/partitions:
major minor #blocks name
7 0 101416 loop0
8 0 488386584 sda
8 1 81920000 sda1
8 2 406465560 sda2
8 16 488386584 sdb
252 0 976773120 dm-0
252 2 81920000 dm-2
252 3 506875904 dm-3
252 4 362362140 dm-4
252 5 2048287 dm-5
8 32 244198584 sdc
8 33 244196001 sdc1
*********************************************************
Partition lists on the system:
Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!
Error: /dev/sdb: unrecognised disk label
Model: WD 2500BMV External (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdc: 250GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos
Number Start End Size Type File system Flags
1 32.3kB 250GB 250GB primary ntfs
*********************************************************
The info from blkid:
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/sda2: TYPE="nvidia_raid_member"
/dev/sdb: TYPE="nvidia_raid_member"
/dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc1: UUID="841861C11861B33A" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc2: UUID="A6C40376C40347CF" LABEL="New Volume" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc3: UUID="BA30E2CF30E291A5" LABEL="New Volume" TYPE="ntfs"
/dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc4: UUID="b653b889-a648-41c5-b508-21543a2d40de" TYPE="ext2"
/dev/sdc1: UUID="48C8E013C8E000D4" LABEL="My Passport" TYPE="ntfs"
*********************************************************
Clonezilla image repository dir /home/partimag is aufs
*********************************************************
===
-----CUT END HERE-------------------------------
lsmod.txt:
Module Size Used by
uvesafb 26212 1
snd_hda_codec_realtek 203296 1
dm_crypt 12928 0
jfs 177380 0
snd_hda_intel 26600 0
usblp 12636 0
xfs 512064 0
snd_hda_codec 69276 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
psmouse 56180 0
i2c_nforce2 6784 0
serio_raw 5280 0
snd_pcm 75296 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_timer 22276 1 snd_pcm
snd 59204 5 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
exportfs 4412 1 xfs
soundcore 7264 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 9156 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
squashfs 22912 1
aufs 149420 1
nls_cp437 5372 1
isofs 31620 1
usb_storage 52448 0
ohci1394 29900 0
ieee1394 86596 1 ohci1394
floppy 54916 0
forcedeth 54152 0
raid10 22972 0
raid456 54108 0
raid6_pq 80912 1 raid456
async_xor 3260 1 raid456
async_memcpy 1820 1 raid456
async_tx 3324 3 raid456,async_xor,async_memcpy
raid1 22396 0
raid0 8096 0
multipath 7744 0
linear 5184 0
dm_raid45 84228 0
xor 15620 3 raid456,async_xor,dm_raid45
atl2 25716 0
fbcon 36544 70
tileblit 2460 1 fbcon
font 8124 1 fbcon
bitblit 5372 1 fbcon
softcursor 1756 1 bitblit
Although it indicates that the issue is with GNU Parted. I have used the GParted 0.4.6 live disk to create the EXT2 partition without any problems.
DMRaid seems to be working. I am able to mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_agaecjbc1 without any problems
Is this an issue with with Clonezilla itself?
Thank you for any assistance you can provide. I am really excited to get clonezilla into our environment!
Kindest Regards,
-==Ryan==-
Yes, this is the issue with Cloneizlla, since it does not support FakeRAID device. Now clonezilla only supports the device name like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/hda, /dev/hdb…
I still do not have an chance to find a FakeRAID device to test it. Maybe we have to buy one to test it. Any one you recommend?
Steven.
Steven,
You building a computer yourself or purchasing a complete computer? I can do some research either way and let you know.
Joshua
joshuacanfield,
I will build it by myself.
Thanks.
Steven.
Steven,
Sorry for the delay. It seems any Intel (or non-Intel) system board with the following chipsets have a "software" RAID controller:
Intel® P45 Express Chipset (Core 2, LGA775 Processors)
Intel® X48 Express Chipset (Core 2, LGA775 Processors)
Intel® P55 Express Chipset (i5, i7 Processors, LGA 1156 Processors)
Intel® X58 Express Chipset (i7 Processors, LGA1366 Processors)
More listed on site below:
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboard/index.htm?iid=mbd_body+dt_all
Looks like a lot of their boards come with the on-board RAID link above will give you genuine Intel boards, any non-Intel board with those chipests should support the Intel RAID setup.
Joshua
Hi Steven,
Here's the board that I have that uses the Intel ICH10R controller:
http://www.techspot.com/review/129-asus-p6t-deluxe/
You can buy these for around $200 in the US. If you buy it this Friday (so-called "Black Friday") or else on Cyber Monday you might find an even cheaper deal. Most X58 motherboards use this Intel chipset so perhaps just use the following search to look for the best deal:
http://www.dealighted.com/?search=X58&sa.x=0&sa.y=0
Regards,
Mark
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the info. Actually I am not in US, and there is no "Black Friday" here in Taiwan. :)
I think I have found one here, and will try to dig more recently.
Steven.