I cloned a Win2K 40 GB partition on an old (~12 years) system that is dual boot with Kubuntu Linux
I restored the Win2K partition to a new 40 GB part of a SSD in a new AMD A10-5800K system.
It did not boot.
It looks like the issue is lack of the MBR.
Should I start over and clone the whole 80 GB drive to get the MBR with it?
Can I clone the old MBR and add it to the image I copied?
Can I use some tool to create/place a MBR?
I intend to tripple boot Win7 64 bit, Kubuntu 64 bit, as well as 32 bit Win2K
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I may try that since I still have that image, but in the meantime, during the night I cloned the entire drive and overwrote the new SSD with the new image.
It boots into the Grub2 and can boot Kubuntu 12:04 though it runs slowly.
It will boot Win2K but it crashes during the splash screen with a BSOD Stop 0x0..7B Inaccessible_Boot_Device message. The second HEX string is 0x0 … 34
I will go to the BIOS and see if I can set the SSD from SATA or ACHI to ATA, legacy, or compatibility and maybe try F8 safe mode.
If possible, I'd like to keep my Grub2 and update it as I add 64 bit Win 7 and Kubuntu 12:10.
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I may try that since I still have that image, but in the meantime, during the night I cloned the entire drive and overwrote the new SSD with the new image.
It boots into the Grub2 and can boot Kubuntu 12:04 though it runs slowly.
It will boot Win2K but it crashes during the splash screen with a BSOD Stop 0x0..7B Inaccessible_Boot_Device message. The second HEX string is 0x0 … 34
I will go to the BIOS and see if I can set the SSD from SATA or ACHI to ATA, legacy, or compatibility and maybe try F8 safe mode.
If possible, I'd like to keep my Grub2 and update it as I add 64 bit Win 7 and Kubuntu 12:10.
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It appears the Intel 330 Series SSD does not have a Win2K driver. I will have to join the Intel forum and ask about it.
I restored the image to the new box's WD HDD, but in booting to Win2K ran into the same 7B stop error and Hex strings so I will need to search for their Win2K driver as well.
I guess if I can find a driver for either, I will need to install it by flash to the drive or on the working old box with Win2k and make a new image.
Meanwhile, I need to catch up on other work and will attempt to put Win 7 and Kubuntu 12.10 64 bit versions on the SSD if I can snag time….
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I have the similar problem. I had to reduce the size of a HDD partition for it to fit on an SDD using GParted. That went well. I am now using the halved Windows 10 HDD. I then cloned the partition onto a partition I created on the SSD but, unlike in the disk clone procedure, one is not offered the option (in Beginner Mode) of cloning the MBR as well.
I do not have the option of cloning the whole HDD onto my SSD because it is too big.
The SSD without MBR does not boot.
So as tripbute asked in 2013
Can I clone the old MBR and add it to the image I copied?
Can I use some tool to create/place a MBR?
There is in windows a function called MBR2GTP but not the reverse.
In the comments of the above instructions there is also the suggestion to copy the HDD disk in expert mode, turning off the Clonezilla check that there is enough space thing. One problem is that my recovery partition is at the end of my 1TB hard disk and it will not get copied accross. Perhaps I can GPART move it to just after the end of my halved (450GB) Windows OS partition and then copy, with check disk size turned off. I will try that!
I have successfully (I think) used Gparted to to move the recovery partition to just after the halved OS partition (that I am now using).
According to the faq https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/11_lite_server/advanced/09-advanced-param.php
"If you are sure all the data from the image could fit the smaller disk, i.e. it won't be written to the wrong disk space, you can check the option "-icds".Warning! To select this option, you have to know what you are doing!"
I don't know what I am doing but, since I have a clone of my old 1TB OS disk to fall back on, it should not harm my Windows OS drive, I will try to copy disk to disk with "-icds" (disk size checking turned off).
Another trouble that I forsee is that the beginner mode asked me "do you want to clone the MBR" but I guess I will not be asked in the expertmode. Hopefully this is "-m" (do not clone boot loader -- is MBR the boot loader!?) which,, unless selected will mean that my boot loader is cloned. Lets do it!
It was not obvious how to set the "-icds" option because there is no instruction to use the space bar in the upper prompt on the clone disk page (perhaps to disencourage those who do not know from using any of these options) but Steven Shiau (who may be the main developer, if so and to the main developers whoever they are, thank you!) gives the information here below https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/Help/thread/4540b83f/
And the clone is running! Will it work?
YES!?!
I am using my new SSD now. I was given the option to clone the boot area and I did. I removed my HDD and my SSD has booted windows, silently, and quickly. For some reason Windows ran a check disk on boot which finished almost immediately without issue. Perhaps I will get a BSOD with my computer next attempts to hibernate or something but for the time being it is great, and
I still have the halved HDD and a full 1TB clone as backup (they are useful in all sorts of situations. I got a virus a while ago that almost no anti-virus software would detect but I was able to swap out my hard disk to a pre-virus clone).
To clone a large HDD to a smaller SDD
1) Use Windows disk management to mount the SSD but add no partition
2) If Windows disk management's shrink does not let you shrink your OS HDD (even after turning off paging files, hibernation, and system protectiono in Windows settings, and defragging) then
3) Create a system recovery disk
4) (The dangerous part that may destroy your system disk ) Use Gparted to reduce the size of your Windows disk to fit the SDD (about 460 GB in the case of a "500GB" SDD) and use the sytem recovery disk to clean up the mess (this may not work for everyone, or anyone, and I am still scared)
5) Use Gparted to move your HDD "recovery partition" to the left to just after your new shrunk OS disk (It is probably okay to do this at the same timie as 4 above).
6) Use Clonezilla to copy disk to disk with in expert mode choosing "-icds" (disk size checking turned off) using the space bar and all other parameters as default. (The space bar selects the option)
7) It is probably a good idea to run check disk if Windows does not.
Thank you very much everyone at Clonezilla!
Last edit: Timothy Takemoto 2020-07-25
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What are my options?
I cloned a Win2K 40 GB partition on an old (~12 years) system that is dual boot with Kubuntu Linux
I restored the Win2K partition to a new 40 GB part of a SSD in a new AMD A10-5800K system.
It did not boot.
It looks like the issue is lack of the MBR.
Should I start over and clone the whole 80 GB drive to get the MBR with it?
Can I clone the old MBR and add it to the image I copied?
Can I use some tool to create/place a MBR?
I intend to tripple boot Win7 64 bit, Kubuntu 64 bit, as well as 32 bit Win2K
If you are familiar with grub, install grub from a rescue CD.
It will be easier for you edit the boot manager for triple boot.
Steven.
Thank you, Steven.
I may try that since I still have that image, but in the meantime, during the night I cloned the entire drive and overwrote the new SSD with the new image.
It boots into the Grub2 and can boot Kubuntu 12:04 though it runs slowly.
It will boot Win2K but it crashes during the splash screen with a BSOD Stop 0x0..7B Inaccessible_Boot_Device message. The second HEX string is 0x0 … 34
I will go to the BIOS and see if I can set the SSD from SATA or ACHI to ATA, legacy, or compatibility and maybe try F8 safe mode.
If possible, I'd like to keep my Grub2 and update it as I add 64 bit Win 7 and Kubuntu 12:10.
Thank you, Steven.
I may try that since I still have that image, but in the meantime, during the night I cloned the entire drive and overwrote the new SSD with the new image.
It boots into the Grub2 and can boot Kubuntu 12:04 though it runs slowly.
It will boot Win2K but it crashes during the splash screen with a BSOD Stop 0x0..7B Inaccessible_Boot_Device message. The second HEX string is 0x0 … 34
I will go to the BIOS and see if I can set the SSD from SATA or ACHI to ATA, legacy, or compatibility and maybe try F8 safe mode.
If possible, I'd like to keep my Grub2 and update it as I add 64 bit Win 7 and Kubuntu 12:10.
Unfortunately, neither changing the SATA setting in the BIOS to IDE from ACHI or booting into Win2K in safe mode let me bring up Win2K.
Any suggestions where to go for help on this?
I believe you Win2K need some driver for the SSD device. If no such driver, it won't work.
Steven.
It appears the Intel 330 Series SSD does not have a Win2K driver. I will have to join the Intel forum and ask about it.
I restored the image to the new box's WD HDD, but in booting to Win2K ran into the same 7B stop error and Hex strings so I will need to search for their Win2K driver as well.
I guess if I can find a driver for either, I will need to install it by flash to the drive or on the working old box with Win2k and make a new image.
Meanwhile, I need to catch up on other work and will attempt to put Win 7 and Kubuntu 12.10 64 bit versions on the SSD if I can snag time….
I have the similar problem. I had to reduce the size of a HDD partition for it to fit on an SDD using GParted. That went well. I am now using the halved Windows 10 HDD. I then cloned the partition onto a partition I created on the SSD but, unlike in the disk clone procedure, one is not offered the option (in Beginner Mode) of cloning the MBR as well.
I do not have the option of cloning the whole HDD onto my SSD because it is too big.
The SSD without MBR does not boot.
So as tripbute asked in 2013
There is in windows a function called MBR2GTP but not the reverse.
There is this
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/disk-management/change-a-gpt-disk-into-an-mbr-disk
But I am not sure if it is enough to create a MBR on the SSD or whether I have to clone my current MBR to work with it.
There are some instructions here
https://www.tecmint.com/migrate-windows-10-from-hdd-to-ssd-using-clonezilla/
which suggests to me I need to start again and do a lot of deleting and command line scull dugerry.
In the comments of the above instructions there is also the suggestion to copy the HDD disk in expert mode, turning off the Clonezilla check that there is enough space thing. One problem is that my recovery partition is at the end of my 1TB hard disk and it will not get copied accross. Perhaps I can GPART move it to just after the end of my halved (450GB) Windows OS partition and then copy, with check disk size turned off. I will try that!
I have successfully (I think) used Gparted to to move the recovery partition to just after the halved OS partition (that I am now using).
According to the faq
https://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live/doc/11_lite_server/advanced/09-advanced-param.php
"If you are sure all the data from the image could fit the smaller disk, i.e. it won't be written to the wrong disk space, you can check the option "-icds".Warning! To select this option, you have to know what you are doing!"
I don't know what I am doing but, since I have a clone of my old 1TB OS disk to fall back on, it should not harm my Windows OS drive, I will try to copy disk to disk with "-icds" (disk size checking turned off).
Another trouble that I forsee is that the beginner mode asked me "do you want to clone the MBR" but I guess I will not be asked in the expertmode. Hopefully this is "-m" (do not clone boot loader -- is MBR the boot loader!?) which,, unless selected will mean that my boot loader is cloned. Lets do it!
It was not obvious how to set the "-icds" option because there is no instruction to use the space bar in the upper prompt on the clone disk page (perhaps to disencourage those who do not know from using any of these options) but Steven Shiau (who may be the main developer, if so and to the main developers whoever they are, thank you!) gives the information here below
https://sourceforge.net/p/clonezilla/discussion/Help/thread/4540b83f/
And the clone is running! Will it work?
YES!?!
I am using my new SSD now. I was given the option to clone the boot area and I did. I removed my HDD and my SSD has booted windows, silently, and quickly. For some reason Windows ran a check disk on boot which finished almost immediately without issue. Perhaps I will get a BSOD with my computer next attempts to hibernate or something but for the time being it is great, and
I still have the halved HDD and a full 1TB clone as backup (they are useful in all sorts of situations. I got a virus a while ago that almost no anti-virus software would detect but I was able to swap out my hard disk to a pre-virus clone).
To clone a large HDD to a smaller SDD
1) Use Windows disk management to mount the SSD but add no partition
2) If Windows disk management's shrink does not let you shrink your OS HDD (even after turning off paging files, hibernation, and system protectiono in Windows settings, and defragging) then
3) Create a system recovery disk
4) (The dangerous part that may destroy your system disk ) Use Gparted to reduce the size of your Windows disk to fit the SDD (about 460 GB in the case of a "500GB" SDD) and use the sytem recovery disk to clean up the mess (this may not work for everyone, or anyone, and I am still scared)
5) Use Gparted to move your HDD "recovery partition" to the left to just after your new shrunk OS disk (It is probably okay to do this at the same timie as 4 above).
6) Use Clonezilla to copy disk to disk with in expert mode choosing "-icds" (disk size checking turned off) using the space bar and all other parameters as default. (The space bar selects the option)
7) It is probably a good idea to run check disk if Windows does not.
Thank you very much everyone at Clonezilla!
Last edit: Timothy Takemoto 2020-07-25
Cool. Thanks for sharing that.
Steven