#384 3 issues with 1 probable cause - clonezilla-live-3.0.0-26-amd64

[p bea]

I made a mistake. This was posted in Help and it should be posted in Bugs. Here it is.

Hello . . .

First, I must apologise for the quality of the images. I had to crop them a lot to include them in one message.

Issue #1
I replaced my usual backup SSDs with Sandisk 3D NAND 250gb. The transfer speed from WD-Black NVME M.2 2280 250gb doing a device clone was settling at between 2 and 3 gb per minute on a brand newly partitioned and formatted with gParted (see attached image) SSD. Prior to this my transfer speed was between 20 and 50 depending on size of the data being transferred using a duplicate SSD to the laptop.

Issue #2

With the current software, my second monitor shows my laptop screen in the upper left quadrant of my second monitor as the included image shows.

Issue #3

The font on the second monitor is barely readable as the included image shows. It is light and not properly displayed.

The usual response to this sort of report is to try another version. This I will do but first I want to convey these issues to you and you may have another possible solution or not be aware of them.

Hope this helps.

p-bea

[p bea]

I am still unable to add a 2nd image.

[Steven Shiau]

How about giving Clonezilla live 3.0.1-5 or 20220606-kinetic a try?
https://clonezilla.org/downloads.php

Steven

[p bea]

I tried Clonezilla live 3.0.1-5 and the results are the same as the attached image shows. The screen font is barely readable even with the large font menu option.

I will try 20220606-kinetic later when I have time.

Thank You

[p bea]

Moving right along, I tried 20220606-kinetic with the same results except the background on the secondary monitor was a different colour. No image this time.

I also tried other menu items as my choice may be causing the issues. I used from the primary menu large fonts. This time the secondary monitor did not activate.

I am willing to continue this field testing when necessary.

Hope this helps

p-bea

[p bea]

Just one more bit of information.

I went through my backup and I located clonezilla 2.8.0.27 and loaded it. This version works as expected with no issues. I will use this version until the latest issue is resolved.

Unless, you know of the version number directly before 3? and save me going through the rest of my backups.

Thank You

[Steven Shiau]

Thanks for your feedback.
So for Clonezilla live 3.0.1-5 or 20220606-kinetic, the issue is only the way it's shown on the screen? All other steps have no issue to do the saving or restoring jobs?

Steven

[p bea]

The answer is 'Yes' with some qualifications. I have not had any recent experience with restoring jobs but I did do one partition and one device backup which worked.

Thank You

[p bea]

I just read back on my original post and I do believe that there is one more "issue".

The backup to the Sandisk 3d NAND SSD was extremely slow, 2 - 4 gb/min vs 30 - 50 gb/min. This may not be an issue but a hardware compatibility problem. It's up to you.

Thank You

[Steven Shiau]

Did you use the option "-z9p" when saving? If so, please give testing Clonezilla live 3.0.1-7 a try.
Ref: https://clonezilla.org/downloads/testing/known-issues.php

Steven

[p bea]

Thank You for the reply.

To start, I am choosing 'other' from the first menu and 'large fonts' from the second menu.

I tried your Clonezilla live 3.0.1-7 and I saw no noticeable difference from the previous 3??? versions. The image on the secondary monitor still only occupies the top left quadrant and the fonts appear 'fuzzy' and light. Sorry . . .

The compression you suggested is only available when a 'saveparts' is chosen. The 250gb SanDisk 3D NAND SSD I am referring to is only used for a 'device' clone. The compression is not an option for that procedure. Sorry again . . .

One other option available. I can notify Western Digital of the speed issue and see if they have any thoughts?

Thank You for your efforts so far.

[Steven Shiau]

As for the fonts and display issue, maybe it's related to some Linux kernel/hardware support issue. An updated version of Linux kernel might fix this issue.
At least you can do the cloning job in the command line, then no big issue.
About the compression, yes, it's not available for device cloning. I thought you were doing image saving.
If you still have any issue, please report that.

Steven

[Valerio Vanni]

I too find latest version very slow.
I use clonezilla from usb key.

The same image, on the same machine restores in these times:

Clonezilla 2.8.1-12-amd64: 7 min
Clonezilla 3.0.1-8-amd64: 27 min

Same USB3 external drive containing image, connected to the same port, same internal destination disk. Between tests I only changed boot USB key.

Image was taken on the same machine with default compression option (the first row).

Motherboard is an MB-SI-H510V2 (an Asus H510 rebranded from an italian PC manufacturer, Sicomputer). Destination disk is a NVME Lexar 256 SSD.

If you need more details, I can try to collect them.

[p bea]

Thank You for the reply. It is appreciated as always.

Unfortunately . . .

It is of little solace. You suggested a newer kernel. This machine is using the latest safe kernel available from Ubuntu, 5.17.4-051704-generic #202204200842 SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 20 09:30:50 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux.

Your comment about the command line confused me. I read over this issue and I did not run across any mention of CLI as it pertains to this. My experiences are based solely on the GUI.

Finally, none of the '3' versions of your software work well for me and I am running a standard Kubuntu 20.04.(3/4) version so I will be sticking to the last '2' version. The slow as molasses speed of the Sandisk 3D NAND SSD is still an issue. I purchased 2 more NVMe SSDs to duplicate my machine. That works.

If anything else happens that may assist your diagnosing this issue I will be sure to pass it on.

[Steven Shiau]

The Linux I mentioned is from Clonezilla live, not the one you mentioned in Kubuntu.
Clonezilla live uses its own Linux kernel, and it's nothing to do with the OS you want to clone or image.
As for the CLI, I meant after the TUI is finished, you get a green command. With that, you can easily to run Clonezilla job. You do not have to care about the TUI actually.

Steven

[Steven Shiau]

@Valerio,
Please give testing Clonezilla live a try, e.g., 3.0.2-16 amd64 or 20220927-kinetic a try:
https://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
They come with newer Linux kernel so the results might be different.

Steven

[Valerio Vanni]

I will try, as soon as I will have an identical machine here.

[Valerio Vanni]

double post, please delete it

[Valerio Vanni]

I found a similar machine and did some test:

2.8.1-12-amd64: 4 min (7 were including preliminary image check, here I measured only real "restore" step)

3.0.2-21-amd64: 1h 50m
3.0.2-22-amd64: the same
kinetic and lunar: a bit faster, 1h 40m

kinetic and lunar have less latency in interface (menu walking is more responsive)

I noticed that preliminary check takes the same (good) time in every case, less than 4 minutes.
It seems that reading from USB drive is ok. Issue is in writing to internal drive.

I tried a "hdparm -tT" on internal drive (with working and not working version), and I find similar values (2200/416 with "lunar", 21500/438 with working 2.8-1-12).
Nothing that can account such an extra time.

[Valerio Vanni]

I found another similar machine on which clonezilla works.

Same motherboard, but with different internal drive. This (working) has an M2 SATA, the other (not working) has an M2 NVME.

Should I open a separate bug report or leave it in this "3 issue..."?