theres a seperator i know, but an option to add an invisible/unclickable
spacer icon, this doesnt need to be adjustable since the user can just throw
multiple spacers side by side, also thanks :P
Don't know if you are talking about Classic Start Menu or Classic Explorer.
For the menu, have you tried adding a column_padding that moves the items
below it to the bottom? Or you are talking about an invisible spacer for
Classic Explorer toolbar? That's a nice idea.
actually meant start menu , but would probably use it in explorer to. And i do
use column padding for the start menue, the problem with padding is it only
works on the shorter side, and id like to have atleast 1 space between
shutdown/logoff options at the bottom (which happens to be the side with more
options for me)
So basically you are asking for a second type of separator. Sorry, that's not
not possible as in.. not currently a feature?, impossible to implement because
of windows restrictions?, or possible but not likely to happen any time soon?
coding wise its exactly the same as a divider, except linking to a different
image (a clear one), so if possible it shouldnt be to hard to code and i may
try my hand at it myself :P, unless i am informed that its a windows
Currently not a feature.
It is unlikely to ever be implemented. A separator needs to be described in
the skin file (what image to use, how to stretch it based on the menu width),
and also needs to be picked in the menu customization UI. Adding multiple (2?
3? unlimited?) types of separators will put an extra requirements on all the
@bloody-t, But you can create it yourself. :) Read the skin tutorial.
Replacing skin resources in Resource Hacker is quite easy. Create a
transparent taller separator should be possible in any free image editor like
@ 2,3, unlimited? how many kinds of spacers can you think of? theres static,
and dynamic (if the space unit is decently small, the person can add several
of them to define exactly how much space they wanted)
separators, would be where 'unlimited' could potentially come in i guess..,
with dashed, bold, dotted, red ect... but i dont see anyone needing over 2
maybe (one for hard catagories, another for soft)
@doing it myself, yea ill prolly take a shot at it :P
oh and what im trying to do isnt replace but add :P, i still need the
seperator (more than the space actually), so i think i may have to edit the
source code :P, although i would think the clear spacer image could be added
to the program, as a skin doesnt likely need to change clear?, unless someone
wanted to change the spacer into a divider
Yes, just like you want a blank separator, somebody else may want a blue one
or a dotted one. So all skins will need to have all of those styles.
Not only that, but the separator styles need to be multiplied by 3, since
there are 3 types of items - first column, second column, sub-menu. Even more
if you count the different styles, like small icons and large icons.
Not only that, but the settings UI must allow you to have multiple separator
types (which currently it doesn't, only a single SEPARATOR is allowed).
So as you can see, adding what you are asking for in a robust manner that will
work in all cases is a lot of work.
It is much less work if you want to focus on a single skin and menu layout. So
if you have the skills you are welcome to try doing it for yourself.
how many different seperators do you think 1 person could realistically need
though?, if there were 3 available seperators, they would have more room to
use reshack to get the ones they wanted. (although as you said, it wouldnt
help anyone who needed more than 3 types of seperators, i think the majority
of people wouldnt )
I would only use 2, but i do see a valid reason for a 3rd
also i have the skills, but it would probably take me a couple hours, since 1
id have to familiarize myself with the code, and 2 dont even have visual
studios installed. so is there any way one of you can compile me a build with
a second divider coded in?, ill pay a bit for your troubles (15$ sound about
fair?, or will it take more than an hr?)
oh yea i use smoked glass with options: two columns
Here's the thing though. You need a new item type "separator type 2". This
item can be in the first column, the second column, or in a sub-menu.
Depending on where you put it, the separator may have to look different.
Tell me exactly what you are trying to do. A screenshot would be nice.
agh actually scratch that, a custom build by you guys would mean that id have
to choose between it and updates, or learn how to add it myself, so i can add
it again if any updates are made >.<, yea i guess ill try it myself thanks
you see where all the seperators in a bunch, id like those to be invisible. it
should be ok if all 3 use the same clear image, since any distance adjustments
are done on the user side by throwing more dividers down (the divider already
seems to be a decent spaceing point, so a second one with the exact same size
would be fine.., but if its not going into the main build next time you
update, i might aswell learn how to get it done myself so i can do it when the
next update arives (although if your willing to add it to the official build
ill be happy to pay still)
What if all separators in the second column are blank? That's very easy to do.
But it will also affect the separator between Network and Documents.
that is very easy to do i know, but not what i wanted sadly.. if it were id do
it myself, since thats just a theme edit
OK, how about this - if you create a custom item and leave all of its settings
blank, it will show up as a blank non-selectable item. It will be the same
size as normal items but with no icon or text.
custom command? nope it shows a pic of a piece of paper, and the words <No Text="">, also its clickable but it doesnt do anything :P, although if it did
what you said that seems like itd work great
In the Custom item, try specifying an ampersand '&' in the Label field and
"none" for the icon. That should give you an empty item.
acceptable alternative thanks, still clickable though :P but thats not a huge deal thanks for the help, donated 10$ yesterday, and ill donate another 5 now :P
In the next version if you leave all settings blank you will get a non-
clickable blank item. You won't need to use & or 'none'.
I hope to release it this weekend.
This is implemented in the latest version 3.6.2
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