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From: Joshua M. <jos...@gm...> - 2009-01-03 19:09:21
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David: I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of software production (open source or proprietary), but I must say that I am distasted by your assumption that my clients are ignorant, consumptive users who care nothing about the terms by which they are "allowed" to use software created by a proprietary source. In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn that a piece of software they use is open source - not necessarily because it costs less or enables more flexible use. Rather, they know that are able to work directly with the developers of a software product (just as we're doing right here, right now) to fix problems, improve functionality, or expand features. I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am quite the lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my clients actually care whether or not they are using a software product whose developers worked just to make a buck, or rather to create a more useful, secure, and flexible technology. BTW..... What about??? Apache (used by 50% of the Web) Firefox (used by 20% users) FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft) PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall) SELinux (created by NSA) K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware) SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart) Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers) Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google) OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30 countries) Is all this just crappy code??? -- _________________________________ Joshua S. Martin |
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From: jerry <an...@ho...> - 2009-01-03 22:10:42
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AND YOUR POINT IS??? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joshua Martin To: ClamWin Users Discussion List Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [Clamwin-users] Users and Open Source David: I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of software production (open source or proprietary), but I must say that I am distasted by your assumption that my clients are ignorant, consumptive users who care nothing about the terms by which they are "allowed" to use software created by a proprietary source. In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn that a piece of software they use is open source - not necessarily because it costs less or enables more flexible use. Rather, they know that are able to work directly with the developers of a software product (just as we're doing right here, right now) to fix problems, improve functionality, or expand features. I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am quite the lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my clients actually care whether or not they are using a software product whose developers worked just to make a buck, or rather to create a more useful, secure, and flexible technology. BTW..... What about??? Apache (used by 50% of the Web) Firefox (used by 20% users) FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft) PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall) SELinux (created by NSA) K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware) SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart) Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers) Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google) OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30 countries) Is all this just crappy code??? -- _________________________________ Joshua S. Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Clamwin-users mailing list Cla...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamwin-users |
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From: Alch <al...@us...> - 2009-01-04 08:11:16
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Just a friendly reminder to keep this mailing list focused on issues related to ClamWin. Please take any other matters off this list and to a private discussion. jerry wrote: > /AND YOUR POINT IS???/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Joshua Martin <mailto:jos...@gm...> > *To:* ClamWin Users Discussion List > <mailto:cla...@li...> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:09 PM > *Subject:* [Clamwin-users] Users and Open Source > > David: > > I don't want this mailing list to be a soap box for either type of > software production (open source or proprietary), but I must say > that I am distasted by your assumption that my clients are > ignorant, consumptive users who care nothing about the terms by > which they are "allowed" to use software created by a proprietary > source. > > In fact, I have a few business owners who are excited to learn > that a piece of software they use is open source - not necessarily > because it costs less or enables more flexible use. Rather, they > know that are able to work directly with the developers of a > software product (just as we're doing right here, right now) to > fix problems, improve functionality, or expand features. > > I don't know what kind of clients you have to work with - but I am > quite the lucky consultant here in Southwest Virgina, because my > clients actually care whether or not they are using a software > product whose developers worked just to make a buck, or rather to > create a more useful, secure, and flexible technology. > > BTW..... What about??? > > > Apache (used by 50% of the Web) > > Firefox (used by 20% users) > > FreeBSD (used by Yahoo! and once used by Microsoft) > > PacketFilter (used by Chinese government firewall) > > SELinux (created by NSA) > > K Desktop Environment (used by Lowe's Hardware) > > SUSE Linux (used by Wal-Mart) > > Linux kernel (used by Cisco for $ routers) > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux (used by Google) > > OpenOffice (used by more than 150 million users and standard in 30 > countries) > > > Is all this just crappy code??? > > -- > _________________________________ > > Joshua S. Martin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Clamwin-users mailing list > Cla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamwin-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Clamwin-users mailing list > Cla...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/clamwin-users > |
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