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From: C K Wu <ck...@ch...> - 2002-02-22 06:06:52
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Hi, Geoff,
Yes. Please channel your suggestions through the mailing list
so everyone has an idea of what new features can be expected.
I have completed the Installation Manual and put it online.
I have also tested a RedFlag Linux install using a remote
Postgresql Server and it works.
The case insensitive search will be in the next release. Turn out
it is pretty easy to implement. Just change all the LIKEs to ILIKEs.
The only concern is future MySQL compatibility. But, MySQL may
well support ILIKE in the future :-) .
I remember distinctly that there were 3 querys raised when
applying SQL-Ledger to Australian accounting.
1. Separate recording of tax received and paid including tax rate.
This should have been solved in CK-Ledger.
2. Capital vs non-capital GST tax. This should also have been solved
with two different types of tax allowed per invoice/po/so
transaction.
However, you may like to provide for the capital GST and
non-capital
GST accounts and rates in the sample Australian Chart of
Account.
You may also like to check if there is a need for a third level
of tax.
3. Cash-based vs non-cash-based GST tax. Dieter mentioned that
cash-based
tax was provided in SQL-Ledger v.1.8. However, I have a bit of
query as
to the logical setup. Say, if there are two outstanding
invoices,
Jan-01-1995 invoice 00001
A$110.00 (tax A$10.00)
Jan-01-2002 invoice 00002
A$1100.00 (tax A$100.00)
The customer sends in a cheque for A$1100 saying that he/she has
problem
with invoice 00001, and is not going to pay it. Does the
Australian Tax Authority
requires that tax accrued on older transactions be settled
first, or is it up to the
tax payer to decide. If you could check this out, I could
perhaps make cash-based
tax accounting available two or three release down the road.
Oh. I think someone mentioned a Business Activity Statement required by
the Australian
Tax Authority. It is perhaps also something to be added to the
Australian side of CK-Ledger.
And, no hurry. Take your time. I have a really long wish list for
CK-Ledger myself.
Cheers,
CK
admin wrote:
> Hi CK Putting a few of our own accounts into CK - ledgerAt first look,
> very few incompatibilities to Australianrequirements. Australia has
> one goods and services tax (GST) currentlyat 10% The 'Add New Jounal'
> Button I think would be better named'Add Journal Entry' As with SQL-
> Ledger it would be really nice to have theaccount major headings
> outlined in the drop down accountlist. Only working through general
> ledger at this stage - will keepsending comments as they come to
> me (would you prefer me to go through the users mailing
> list) Regards Geoff
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From: C K Wu <ck...@ch...> - 2002-07-31 01:36:33
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Hi, Ron, Your friend's concern is a valid one. In fact, it is exactly because phpgroupware had to abide by the strict GNU rules, that I decided to start CK-Ledger as a project separate from phpgroupware and I believe php3 compatibility is one of the GNU conditions. My development environment uses php-4.06.7. I have never tested CK-Ledger against a pure php3 environment and I am pretty sure that I have used some language constructs that can only be run against php4. PS - I am sending a copy of this reply to ck-...@li..., so the others are aware of current development. Cheers, CK Ron Guerin wrote: > Hi, > > A friend of mine asked me to find out if CK-Ledger is compatible with > PHP3 and PHP4. I had assumed it is since all PHPGroupware modules are > supposed to be compatible with both, but I could not find that > information on the SourceForge site. > > Thanks, > > Ron Guerin |
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From: C K Wu <ck...@ch...> - 2002-08-03 16:56:25
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Hi, Mark, Thank you for your interest in CK-Ledger. The straight answer to your question is "It is extremely difficult". It involves reproducing the infrastructure provided by phpgroupware's API, which includes screen handling, user account maintenance, database abstraction, installation facility, etc. In fact, it is the existence of these infrastructure that allow me to concentrate on the business logic and be able to develop the system in a rather rapid fashion. However, if your existing authentication system is ldap based. You may be about to integrate your authentication mechanism with phpgroupware's. But, I am totally ignorant in this area. You can get more info on this at the mailing list, php...@gn... php...@gn... or at phpgroupware's website, www.phpgroupware.org In addition, I like to add that CK-Ledger is still in beta, so bugs are inevitable. PS - I am sending a copy of this reply to ck-...@li..., so the others are aware of current development. Cheers, CK Mark Kepley wrote: > Hi CK, Kudos, you have put in a lot of hard work in the ledger > system!! I' m look at your system from the POS to AR side. What would > it take to change the CL-Ledger so that it doesn't have to run on > phpgroupware as I already have an authentication system in place? I'm > looking to replace a legacy POS/AR system. I plan to integrate into > our main system on a GL or POS transaction level. Regards, Mark Kepley |
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From: C K Wu <ck...@ho...> - 2003-10-03 04:08:38
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Hi, Bob, Thank you for considering CK-Ledger for your internal use and as a possible sale offering to your clients. Bob Crandell ??: >Hi, > >I'm trying to move my company's accounting from Quickbooks to either SLQ-Ledger or >CK-Ledger. I showed both to my secretaries. They chose SQL-Ledger. Now they are >grumbling whcih means we're still stuck with Quickbooks. So I showed them CK-Ledger >again. They like it better. Maybe there's hope? > >I hope your still here, CK. > >Questions: > >If I presented some specific requests geared toward improving inventory handling, >would you be willing to do that? Or anybody for that matter? > Your request will be actioned along with other requestors'. All usual considerations apply here. Such considerations include ease of implementation, value of features proposed, existing development schedule, etc, etc, etc ... > >One of the services I would like to provide is to handle the accounting needs of >some of the smaller companies around here that are great technicians but are still >poor because they don't enter their time. Will this handle more than one company? > > Yes. it would. To allow better data demarcation, you could utilize phpgw's virtual domain feature. To allow centralised backup, you could use CK-Ledger's own attribute accounting feature. A more detail explanation is available from (ledger admin -> multiple ledger) . At the risk of antagonising you and other list members, I like to highlight the following points, a) As a standard rider, CK-Ledger is still in beta, so bugs are inevitable. This fact should be highlighted to your (potential) customers. b) CK-Ledger is designed for use by SMEs. Advanced features are, by definition, missing or to be developed in the very, very distant future. c) You may like to review ck-...@li...'s archive. There are a few instances, at which, I, effectively, asked the feature requestor to choose some other software instead. d) If you are selling CK-Ledger installation and/or support service to your client, you should be independently knowledgeable about CK-Ledger and its various idiosyncrosies and shortcomings. The public mailing list and CK-Ledger's existing user base should not be used as your consultant if you are selling CK-Ledger consultancy services to your clients. I hope I haven't offend you too much :-) . But these are things that I think you should be aware of before proceeding further. Cheers, CK >I suppose I need to sign up for yet another mailing list. > >Thanks > >-- >Bob Crandell >Assured Computing >When you need to be sure. >bo...@as... >www.assuredcomp.com >Voice - 541-689-9159 >FAX - 541-463-1627 >Eugene, Oregon > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Phpgroupware-developers mailing list >Php...@gn... >http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/phpgroupware-developers > > > > |
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From: C K Wu <ck...@ch...> - 2004-04-14 06:37:17
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Hello, Leon, Thank you for your interest in CK-Ledger. The answer to your queries is listed inline below. Please also read the passage at the very end of this email. The passage carries very important information on the future of the project itself. lmy wrote: >Dear Wu, Chiu Kay, > >We are a design and consulting company from Brazil, and we > >are most interested in your product, CK-Ledger (by the way, > >congratulations). > >We would like some information, if you please: > >1 - how difficult could be to translate it to portuguese? (wich > >files, and how-to) > Pretty easy. All CK-Ledger modules are i18n ready. To create Portugese GUI for any module, you only need to produce a phpgw_pt.lang file (using the appropriate phpgw_en.lang file as a template) and put it inside the [setup] subfolder within the target module. Then activate the Portguese language using phpgw's setup facility, if this had not been done before. Further, you don't even need an editor to manually produce the phpgw_pt.lang file, there is a native [translation tools] module within phpgw specially created to do just that. I am using this tool myself to produce Chinese translation for CK-Ledger, and the tool had pretty much self explanatory screen displays. However, to familiarise yourself with the setup, you may like to review the files (and their content) located inside the [setup] subfolder of the [ck-hr] module. > >2 - do You have any help files for using it? > An installation manual is available within the [doc] subfolder of each CK-Ledger module. No other doc is available at the moment. At the same time, CK-Ledger is written with accountants as target end users. If you have an experienced accountant with you, it should be easy to setup, admin and operate CK-Ledger. > >3 - Would you be interested in add some particular features > >for us? > > Certainly. However, there is already a long list of feature requests, so any additional requests will have to wait for quite a long time to get implemented. >Thanks, > >Leon Myssior > >www.myssior.com.br > >le...@my... > > > > Having said all that, I like to add that CK-Ledger is now being substantially rewritten and will re-incarnate as a different project, CK-ERP, which already had a separate project page at sourceforge.net. The first release of CK-ERP is expected in one to two months' time. And yes, it will be GPL'ed . Cheers, CK PS - I am forwarding a copy of this reply to ck-...@li..., so others are aware of current development. |
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From: <fev...@fe...> - 2004-05-03 11:12:23
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Hello, Does the CKLedger version 073 comply with PHPGWversion 9.16? When do u plan to submit an ERP file? Fevzi ----- Original Message ----- From: "C K Wu" <ck...@ch...> To: "lmy" <lmy...@us...> Cc: <ck-...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: [CK-Ledger-users] Re: CK-Ledger > Hello, Leon, > > Thank you for your interest in CK-Ledger. The answer to your queries is > listed inline below. Please also read the passage at the very end of > this email. The passage carries very important information on the > future of the project itself. > > lmy wrote: > > >Dear Wu, Chiu Kay, > > > >We are a design and consulting company from Brazil, and we > > > >are most interested in your product, CK-Ledger (by the way, > > > >congratulations). > > > >We would like some information, if you please: > > > >1 - how difficult could be to translate it to portuguese? (wich > > > >files, and how-to) > > > Pretty easy. All CK-Ledger modules are i18n ready. To create Portugese > GUI for any module, you only need to produce a phpgw_pt.lang file (using > the appropriate phpgw_en.lang file as a template) and put it inside the > [setup] subfolder within the target module. Then activate the Portguese > language using phpgw's setup facility, if this had not been done > before. Further, you don't even need an editor to manually produce the > phpgw_pt.lang file, there is a native [translation tools] module within > phpgw specially created to do just that. I am using this tool myself to > produce Chinese translation for CK-Ledger, and the tool had pretty much > self explanatory screen displays. However, to familiarise yourself with > the setup, you may like to review the files (and their content) located > inside the [setup] subfolder of the [ck-hr] module. > > > > >2 - do You have any help files for using it? > > > An installation manual is available within the [doc] subfolder of each > CK-Ledger module. No other doc is available at the moment. At the same > time, CK-Ledger is written with accountants as target end users. If you > have an experienced accountant with you, it should be easy to setup, > admin and operate CK-Ledger. > > > > >3 - Would you be interested in add some particular features > > > >for us? > > > > > Certainly. However, there is already a long list of feature requests, > so any additional requests will have to wait for quite a long time to > get implemented. > > >Thanks, > > > >Leon Myssior > > > >www.myssior.com.br > > > >le...@my... > > > > > > > > > Having said all that, I like to add that CK-Ledger is now being > substantially rewritten and will re-incarnate as a different project, > CK-ERP, which already had a separate project page at sourceforge.net. > The first release of CK-ERP is expected in one to two months' time. And > yes, it will be GPL'ed . > > Cheers, > CK > > PS - I am forwarding a copy of this reply to > ck-...@li..., so others are aware of current > development. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials > Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of > GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system > administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470&alloc_id=3638&op=click > _______________________________________________ > CK-Ledger-users mailing list > CK-...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ck-ledger-users > |
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From: C K Wu <ck...@ch...> - 2004-05-03 14:14:12
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Hello, Fevzi, Thank you for your interest in CK-Ledger. Q.1 Yes. Actually, for cross-checking purpose, my development environment currently has both CK-ERP (beta) and CK-Ledger 0.7.3, running happily on top of phpGW 0.9.16 . Q.2 one to two months' time. However, if you are planning to utilize CK-Ledger 0.7.3 in any way other than testing or trial, I'll suggest you hold off until the formal release of CK-ERP, since the data structure of CK-Ledger and CK-ERP is not going to be totally compatible. Cheers, CK fev...@fe... wrote: >Hello, >Does the CKLedger version 073 comply with PHPGWversion 9.16? > >When do u plan to submit an ERP file? > >Fevzi > > > |
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