Re: [chiPHPug-discuss] Reply-All not considered harmful [Was: ChiPHPug Meeting 3rd Wednesday]

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Oh man, I forgot to reply to the list in a discussion about replying to the
list.  Surely, this is a new low.

/hangs head in shame

On 4/17/07, Larry Garfield <la...@ga...> wrote:
>
> Your honor, the state rests. :-)
>
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 10:37 pm, Jough Dempsey wrote:
> > Hey now, let's not start badmouthing Pine...
> >
> > Anyway, I'm not sure that this list is a democracy, but I'll kick in a
> > shill vote for Reply-To being the list address rather than the sender's
> > address.
> >
> > -- Jough
> >
> > On 4/17/07, Larry Garfield <la...@ga...> wrote:
> > > If the primary intent of a list is for mass distribution with
> occasional
> > > replies back to the sender, then yes, Reply-All gets in the way.
> > >
> > > If the primary intent of a list is discussion, then not having
> Reply-All
> > > set
> > > breaks the discussion. Repeatedly.  At best, it means that people get
> > > multiple copies of replies to them because one goes to them and one
> goes
> > > to
> > > the list.  (Am I the only one that *really* hates that?)
> > >
> > > I've heard the arguments against Reply-All.  They all come down to
> "but
> > > it's
> > > so *hard* to reply to an individual then if I want to."  See the first
> > > point;
> > > on a discussion list, you rarely *want* to reply to an
> individual.  And
> > > it's
> > > only "hard" if your mail reader is pine or mutt or something equally
> > > ancient.
> > > If you're using an MUA developed this century, it has a copy and paste
> > > function that works quite well for the rare cases you want to reply to
> an
> > > individual.
> > >
> > > Viva Reply-All!
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 17 April 2007 9:27 pm, Sarah Gray wrote:
> > > > reply-all is evil when you use it for a group of people who have not
> > > > opted to join a list together and be represented jointly by one
> email
> > > > address.   Think of the list as "one" -- one programmer with many
> heads
> > > > who is trying to have a public discussion with itself.. That might
> get
> > > > you off the "reply-all is evil" mentality which doesn't fit a
> listserv
> > > > where the forum is public by default...
> > > >
> > > > +1 to change the settings :)
> > > >
> > > > Richard Lynch wrote:
> > > > > I'm still stuck in the reply-to-all-is-evil camp, so the list
> > > > > settings are unlikely to change soon, even if sourceforge allows
> > > > > it...
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually thinking of just hanging out at php|tek *as* a
> > >
> > > meeting...
> > >
> > > > > When I was thinking anyway...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, April 17, 2007 4:51 pm, Jough Dempsey wrote:
> > > > >> I see what Larry meant about the configuration of the list.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Meant to send this to all...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 4/17/07, Jough Dempsey <jou...@gm...> wrote:
> > > > >>> I don't know how many people in the group are going to PHP|tek
> (I
> > > > >>> am) but
> > > > >>> it seems like it would make sense to push the ChiPUG meeting
> back a
> > > > >>> week -
> > > > >>> maybe we could discuss the conference for those who can't
> attend?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Is anyone else planning on taking the Zend certification exam
> while
> > > > >>> at the
> > > > >>> conference?  I never bothered before but since the exam fee
> comes
> > > > >>> with the
> > > > >>> conference fee, why not?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> -- Jough
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On 4/17/07, Richard Lynch <ce...@l-...> wrote:
> > > > >>>> Yeah, duh.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Sorry.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> My brain isn't working well today.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> JASON in JUNE then, eh?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, April 17, 2007 4:07 pm, Larry Garfield wrote:
> > > > >>>>> And this was of course supposed to go to the list originally,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> but as
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>> this list is stupidly configured... *sigh*
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> So prepare to see Larry show off tomorrow night. :-)  Isn't
> next
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> month
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>> PHPtek, though?  Are we actually going to try and compete with
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> that?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>> :-)
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:44:53 -0500 (CDT), "Richard Lynch"
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> <ce...@l-...> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> Sure!
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> And next month, I think we might have Jason Rexilius speaking
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> about
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>> Security Analytics, if he's in town...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Anybody got something for JUNE???
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, April 16, 2007 4:41 pm, Larry Garfield wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> Unless I've been preempted by the Cake guy again (the other
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Larry),
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I
> > > > >>>>>>> believe this month's presentation is "Larry showing off cool
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> PHP 5
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>> stuff".  Am I still on? :-)
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> --Larry Garfield
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> On 16 Apr 2007 19:01:00 -0000, ce...@l-... wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>> ChiPHPug (Chicago PHP Users Group) meeting is coming up.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> If I wrote the PHP code correctly, it's on 04/18/2007
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> For sure, it's on the THIRD WEDNESDAY of each month.
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Time: 6 pm
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Location: 150 North Michigan, Suite 2800
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> http://info.com
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Directions:
> > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Drive: Lake Shore Drive to Randolph. Grant Park North
> Garage.
> > > > >>>>>>>> Tunnel
> > > > >>>>>>>> to
> > > > >>>>>>>> building/sidewalk.
> > > > >>>>>>>> CTA: Red/Blue line to Washington. Pedway East to building.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> (Blue
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> Line
> > > > >>>>>>>> Pedway closed for 2006)
> > > > >>>>>>>>      Loop trains to Randolph/Wabash.  Walk 2 blocks East.
> > > > >>>>>>>> Metra: South Shore Line to Randolph. Follow blue wavy lines
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> down
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>>>>> ramp.
> > > > >>>>>>>> Tunnel Right to building.
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> > > exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
> > > idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
> it
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> "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of
> exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea,
> which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to
> himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the
> possession
> of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it."  --
> Thomas
> Jefferson
>

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