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From: louis f. <lou...@gm...> - 2007-11-06 22:44:03
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Allen, I never received an answer to the questions in the forwarded message below. I am forwarding it to the celsius-dev list per your request. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: louis fridkis <lou...@gm...> Date: Oct 29, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: celsius support] To: Marc Carlson <mr...@gm...>, nelsonlab-devel < nel...@li...> Marc, Allen Should I be encouraging R and discouraging XML. I.e. In your opinion, should we be going in the direction of only supporting R? P.S. Allen, for backgound/context see Marc's answer in the first message below and the original question, labelled 3), in the second message below. On 10/29/07, Marc Carlson <mr...@gm...> wrote: > > This is really another web server question but I will tell you what I > remember. I think the answer is that the xml was made first. But for the > annotations, I wanted the tab file for the R client (the xml was too huge to > parse easily). Anyhow, I think that the xml was just never updated with the > newer fields that were added to the tab format file. This should all be > moot if the client is using the R client anyhow since that should get the > fields they ask for anyways. At this point this guy is just being nosy. > > Marc > > > > On 10/29/07, louis fridkis < lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Marc, > > > > Thanks again for your answer. I followed up with a question to Allen and > > Brian and sent a partial answer to the client. Here is the next question: > > > > 3) The annot table retrieval seems to work fine eg: > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A;f=tab > > > > > > When I do the equivalient query returning in xml: > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A > > The tags are different to the column names from the table. And the > > tissuename/anatomyname are in the 'platform' tag and all the tags values > > seem to have shifted to the tag to its left. > > > > On 10/26/07, Marc Carlson < mr...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > To answer the 1st question, I don't believe that we ever defined those > > > because we felt they were pretty obvious. SNID as you know is the internal > > > ID. The next set of names are each made of two parts. tissue, path, sex, > > > cell, pheno and dev refer to different ontologies to descibe tissue type, > > > pathology state, cell type, phenotype, and developmental stage. The second > > > part of each name is name, part or accession. Name is just the common name, > > > accession is the precise ID from the ontology, and the ontologies are > > > namespaced themselves, so you know where the information has come from. For > > > example MA is the mouse anatomy ontology, which is what is used for the > > > tissue type annotations... I don't remember what "part" stands for anymore, > > > but it looks like its just the type of annotation (like allenday hand) > > > though you had better check this last one over with Allen... > > > > > > Unfortunately, for your second question, this is more about the web > > > server, and that is Allens domain. The R package I wrote has man pages. > > > And I think there are web pages telling about the web service (there > > > certainly used to be). Allen or Brian would probably know where those are. > > > > > > There should be at least two kinds of documentation for the web > > > service. One is the specification which tells what kind of info is supposed > > > to be in each part of a URL. Allen was working on this with the DAS guys. > > > The other part is a how to use the web service section in the wiki which was > > > put together in part to get the paper published. > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/26/07, louis fridkis < lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > Here's the next question: > > > > > > > > 2) The annot table retrieval seems to work fine eg: > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A;f=tab > > > > > > > > Where can I find the definitions of the column headings? I know some > > > > are obvious, but best to make sure > > > > > > > > I have a similar question, which might help me to answere questions > > > > like this without having to bother you. My question is: > > > > > > > > lou 1) You have shown me how to see the man pages in R, but how can > > > > I find man pages, or other documentation, for commands of the type in > > > > question 2) above, which are embedded in a URL? > > > > > > > > Have a good weekend, > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, louis fridkis < lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again. With G-d's help I will send you another question > > > > > tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, Marc Carlson < mr...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I think that web site is probably just out of date. I > > > > > > don't maintain the website, only the package. The true location for the > > > > > > documentation for an R package is supposed to be within the package itself. > > > > > > One of these days I aim to get a proper vignette written for the celsius > > > > > > package, but in the meantime, all the directions you need should need should > > > > > > be included in the standard man pages. This is better because when you run > > > > > > 'R CMD check celsius' on the package all of the examples in the INTERNAL man > > > > > > pages should get TESTED. The web page is (unfortunately) completely free to > > > > > > become horribly out of date and there is little that I can do about that... > > > > > > > > > > > > In fact I don't even recognize that web site anymore... So this > > > > > > particular question has very little to do with me. I just wrote the R > > > > > > package. If there is something to do with the R package, then I can help > > > > > > you. If its the web server then it's either Allen or possibly someone > > > > > > else... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, louis fridkis < lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, your answer to my question was helpful as I can > > > > > > > now find the man pages. Let's do 1 question at a time. Here's today's > > > > > > > question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) in the example in the documentation on: > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/doc/Celsius/Controller/Service/Cel.htm. > > > > > > > The url uses - http://jugular.ctrl.ucla.edu:4000 - doesn't > > > > > > > work. Should it be changed to: > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu in the documentation?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/25/07, Marc Carlson <mr...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. But you have to send me more information. Such as > > > > > > > > what are the questions exactly? The email before this one was nearly > > > > > > > > impossible to follow. And I just can't answer if I don't understand the > > > > > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to get the help pages for celsius, you should > > > > > > > > only have to launch R, load the celsius packges with library(celsius) and > > > > > > > > then type ?celsius (for the main celsius help page - as an example). Once > > > > > > > > the page loads you should be able to scroll up and down to read it (it > > > > > > > > should launch inside of less). There are also help pages for most of the > > > > > > > > other functions. You could also always look at the source for these help > > > > > > > > pages by looking at the man folder that the package installs but its easier > > > > > > > > to read inside of R since that is where it will be formatted for you. The > > > > > > > > main celsius page should list all the basic functions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/23/07, louis fridkis <lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it possible that you could help me answer one of these > > > > > > > > > questions every few days? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/17/07, louis fridkis < lou...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, I really appreciate your help. How do I access > > > > > > > > > > the man pages? Is blank the same as 0? These are my questions. Here are some > > > > > > > > > > more questions from the client (I have numbered them so there is a unique > > > > > > > > > > number for each question regardless of which batch [first or second]): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6. a method to check which platforms are available > > > > > > > > > > for their annotations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/platform/platforms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > return all available platforms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <platforms> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <platform name="" count="467" annotated="-1"/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <platform name="1286_s01" count="41" annotated="-1"/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <platform name="AG" count="141" annotated="1"/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > </platforms> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? not sure the value -1, 1 for attribute annotated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7. their host name to check my program is reachable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > giving the host name (celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a code shown below returns whether their web page is > > > > > > > > > > reachable or not and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it also return ip address ( 164.67.183.98) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when I enter this ip address in the browser (http://164.67.183.98), > > > > > > > > > > it redirects and shows > > > > > > > > > > http://genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/pmwiki/ (2) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can I use (2) web page to get to know whether > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/ is running or not > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or are there other ways to check by a program? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > public static void main(String[] args) { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > try { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > InetAddress address = InetAddress.getByName("celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu > > > > > > > > > > "); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > System.out.println("Name: " + address.getHostName > > > > > > > > > > ()); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > System.out.println("Addr: " + > > > > > > > > > > address.getHostAddress()); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > System.out.println ("Reach: " + > > > > > > > > > > address.isReachable(60000)); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > catch (UnknownHostException e) { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > System.err.println("Unable to lookup web.mit.edu > > > > > > > > > > "); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > catch (IOException e) { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > System.err.println("Unable to reach web.mit.edu"); > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8. please shift the attribute values to right : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <cel id="SN:1000008" platform="hippocampus" > > > > > > > > > > anatomyname="allenday_hand" anatomypart="MA:0000191" anatomyacc="" > > > > > > > > > > pathology="" pathologypart="" pathologyacc="female" > > > > > > > > > > sexname="allenday_comp_sex" sexpart="null:female" sexacc="" cell="" > > > > > > > > > > cellpart="" cellacc="" phenotypename="" phenotypepart="" phenotypeacc="" > > > > > > > > > > devname="" devpart="" devacc=""/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And not repeated a value more than once : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <cel id="SN:1000252" platform="extraocular skeletal > > > > > > > > > > muscle|extraocular skeletal muscle|extraocular skeletal muscle|extraocular > > > > > > > > > > skeletal muscle" > > > > > > > > > > anatomyname="allenday_hand|allenday_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand" > > > > > > > > > > anatomypart="MA:0001271|MA:0001271|MA:0001271|MA:0001271" > > > > > > > > > > anatomyacc="normal|normal|normal|normal" > > > > > > > > > > pathology="allenday_hand|rjandali_hand|allenday_hand|rjandali_hand" > > > > > > > > > > pathologypart="MPATH:458|MPATH:458|MPATH:458|MPATH:458" > > > > > > > > > > pathologyacc="male|male|male|male" > > > > > > > > > > sexname="allenday_comp_sex|allenday_comp_sex|allenday_comp_sex|allenday_comp_sex" > > > > > > > > > > sexpart="null:male|null:male|null:male|null:male" sexacc="" > > > > > > > > > > cell="rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand" > > > > > > > > > > cellpart="CL:0000001|CL:0000001|CL:0000001|CL:0000001" cellacc="normal > > > > > > > > > > phenotype|normal phenotype|normal phenotype|normal phenotype" > > > > > > > > > > phenotypename="rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand" > > > > > > > > > > phenotypepart="MP:0002873|MP:0002873|MP:0002873|MP:0002873" > > > > > > > > > > phenotypeacc="adult|adult|adult|adult" > > > > > > > > > > devname="rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand|rjandali_hand" > > > > > > > > > > devpart="null:adult|null:adult|null:adult|null:adult" devacc=""/> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9. /service/cel/annots method > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > l optional stringency level. > > > > > > > > > > annotations below level are suppressed (i.e. considered > > > > > > > > > > as NULL). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > defaults to 0. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > level type > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 assigned by web robot, > > > > > > > > > > experimental > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 200 assigned by curator > > > > > > > > > > robot, experimental > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 300 assigned by web robot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400 assigned by curator > > > > > > > > > > robot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 500 assigned by web user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 assigned by curator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are these levels 1, 2,,6 instead of 100, 200, > > > > > > > > > > 600 ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example When we enter the url : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A;f=mask;m=MA:0000168 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it returns > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #SNID mask=MA:0000168 level=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000008 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000009 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000010 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000011 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000012 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000013 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000014 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000015 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000016 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000017 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000018 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000019 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000020 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000021 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000081 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000098 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This level (level=0) has the same meaning of the > > > > > > > > > > optional parameter l which has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > level type > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== ===== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 assigned by web robot, experimental > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 200 assigned by curator robot, experimental > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 300 assigned by web robot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400 assigned by curator robot > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 500 assigned by web user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 assigned by curator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If they have the same meaning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 100 should be replaced with 1 and so on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/12/07, Marc Carlson <mr...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Louis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have not had time to look at questions 1-3 yet, > > > > > > > > > > > though I suspect that the documentation is just referring to an older > > > > > > > > > > > instance of the web server (now decomissioned). As for 4 and 5, the > > > > > > > > > > > ontology searches are always recursive through the ontology (ie. you should > > > > > > > > > > > ALWAYS get all the child nodes for a term - if you want to only find a more > > > > > > > > > > > specific term, then you should use THAT term instead otherwise it will get > > > > > > > > > > > lumped along with the less specific term). Also, 1 is true, 0 is false and > > > > > > > > > > > ! indicates that there is a conflict about the annotations for that sample. > > > > > > > > > > > I think that the man pages detailed this, but its been a while since I have > > > > > > > > > > > been "in there". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Marc Carlson < mca...@fh...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > From: "louis fridkis" < lou...@gm...> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Marc Carlson" < mca...@fh...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:25:07 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: celsius support > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The client wants to allow users to download affy > > > > > > > > > > > > data (rather than having to create individual download scripts for each > > > > > > > > > > > > rep). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What they would like to do is: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) search all experiments and display some of the > > > > > > > > > > > > experimental level annotation eg title, species > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) filter eg by array type, species, disease term > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) select an experiment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) download cel files and associated annotation from > > > > > > > > > > > > chosen experiment > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are his specific questions: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) in the example in the documentation on: http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/doc/Celsius/Controller/Service/Cel.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > . The url uses - http://jugular.ctrl.ucla.edu:4000 - > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't work. Should it be changed to: http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > in the documentation?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) The annot table retrieval seems to work fine eg: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A;f=tab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where can I find the definitions of the column > > > > > > > > > > > > headings? I know some are obvious, but best to make sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) when I do the equivalient query returning in xml: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The tags are different to the column names from the > > > > > > > > > > > > table. And the tissuename/anatomyname are in the 'platform' tag and all the > > > > > > > > > > > > tags values seem to have shifted to the tag to its left. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4)not quite sure how to interpret the results if we > > > > > > > > > > > > want to say retrieve all the hgu-133a cel files that have associated with > > > > > > > > > > > > brain tissue (MA:0000168).eg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://celsius.genomics.ctrl.ucla.edu/service/cel/annots?p=HG-U133A;f=mask;m=MA:0000168 > > > > > > > > > > > > Returns something like: > > > > > > > > > > > > #SNID mask=MA:0000168 level=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000008 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000009 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000081 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000098 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000170 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > SN:1000221 0 > > > > > > > > > > > > Etc > > > > > > > > > > > > Presumably: 1=true i.e. this sample is associated > > > > > > > > > > > > with brain tissue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the difference between "0" and " " (blank) > > > > > > > > > > > > and what does "!" mean? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) In the above example if 4 I searched for the > > > > > > > > > > > > 'brain' ontology group, MA:0000168. Presumably this returns all child nodes > > > > > > > > > > > > of this ontology which is why SN:1000008 and SN:1000009 returned 1 even > > > > > > > > > > > > though they do not mention brain or MA:0000168? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/10/07, Marc Carlson < mca...@fh...> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > louis fridkis wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you available to help with a Celsius user's > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can take a stab at it. I don't have gobs of > > > > > > > > > > > > > free time, but I want to > > > > > > > > > > > > > support this package because I intend to polish it > > > > > > > > > > > > > up more and submit it > > > > > > > > > > > > > to bioconductor eventually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > > > > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > > > > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > > > > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > > > > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > > > > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Lou Fridkis > > > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > > > Department of Human Genetics > > > > Nelson Lab > > > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > > > 310-825-7920 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lou Fridkis > > UCLA Geffen School of Medicine > > Department of Human Genetics > > Nelson Lab > > 695 Charles E Young Drive S. > > Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA > > 310-825-7920 > > > > -- Lou Fridkis UCLA Geffen School of Medicine Department of Human Genetics Nelson Lab 695 Charles E Young Drive S. Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA 310-825-7920 -- Lou Fridkis UCLA Geffen School of Medicine Department of Human Genetics Nelson Lab 695 Charles E Young Drive S. Los Angeles, CA 90095 USA 310-825-7920 |