[Celestia-developers] 55_Cancri.zip

[John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@gm...>]

55_Cancri.zip

Fail

a few reasons

the first one is a  Copyright violation
------------------------------

the base map used for " Hot-Earth.jpg"
is from here:
http://freebitmaps.blogspot.com/2010/10/srgb-planet-reststop.html

there is no credit given
and these maps are NOT free to redistribute with out the CREDIT GIVEN
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/



a mix of 4096x2048 maps and 1600x800

although power of 2 is not a MUST USE!!!
using a power of 2 size is NICE to the users graphics card and runs FASTER



next one
-----------------------------

This is a BIG technical error

the map " Hot-Earth-bump.png"
is set in the ssc AS A BUMPMAP

It looks to have been created in photoshop and DOSE NOT !!! map to a sphere
it is a normal created from a B&W copy of the texture and the "normals" are
for rendering on a  flat plain




The next one is
--------------------------

"Hot-Neptune-night.jpg"
this is just a darker  copy of the regular image
a "night map" is for something that is GIVING OFF LIGHT -- like city lights


then
-------------------------

mismatching CAPITALIZATION!!!!!

the ssc has

  "Hot-earth-bump.*"  ---- the real name is Hot-Earth-bump.png





Then this
-------------------------------

the ssc for
"c" "HD 75732"   # Rho1 Cnc A
has cloudheight  74
and cloudspeed   300
BUT NO CLOUD MAP

and
---------------
"f" "HD 75732"   # Rho1 Cnc A

calls for a map with a blank space in it's name

 "water cloud.*"

 might cause issues , but just poor coding standards
and this in the same section in the ssc

has cloudheight  85
and cloudspeed   315
BUT NO CLOUD MAP



and
--------------
 "d:55 cnc b:Eldof" "55 cnc"
 CloudHeight     82
 CloudSpeed    315
 BUT NO CLOUD MAP










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Re: [Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[Selden E Ball Jr <seb1@co...>]

Barnard,

The person to contact is Chris Laurel claurel@...

The current Web site is not hosted on one of his home computers, 
so it should be more reliable than the old one.

Chris has several profit-making projects that occupy much of his time,
but you might be able= to persuade him to spend the time getting the
forum working again. 

Unfortunately, I won't be able to help moderate it.

Selden



> Hi all,

> The Celestia website has been back online for sometimes now. However the
> forum is still not reachable. The forum is the only useful part of that
> website. There is so much information on this forum on making addons and
> scripts. If the issue is that the persons in charge of the forum don't have
> enough free time, I can help fixing/setting up and maintaining the forum.
> However I would need the database. Anyone having access to that database
> willing to help?

> Thank you,

> Bernard


> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...> wrote:

> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Guckytos here. Here are some news:
> >
> > Chris is having techincal difficulties that he is working on.
> >
> > The forum data is still fully available and not lost. Recent backups
> > also exist.
> >
> > We (the Admins) are still trying to decide on how to proceed in the
> > future. I can only ask you to be patient for a bit longer.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Guckytos
> >
> >
> > Am 04.03.2014 17:49, schrieb Bernard GODARD:
> > > John,
> > >
> > > The Internet archive only has some snapshots of the forums not the forum
> > > SQL database.
> > >
> > > To be able to navigate easily in the forum, we need to use the phpBB
> > > software with a copy of the original forum SQL database which cannot be
> > > retrieved from snapshots of the internet archive or the Google search
> > > engine cache.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM, John Van Vliet <
> > john.k.vanvliet@...>wrote:
> > >
> > >> i take it you are not aware of the internet archive
> > >> https://archive.org/web/
> > >>
> > >> Nov 2013
> > >>
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20131103200459/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
> > >> Jan 2013
> > >>
> > https://web.archive.org/web/20130105164603/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >> From: Martin Charest <martin465@...>
> > >> Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website
> > >> To: Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>
> > >> Cc: Celestia Developers <celestia-developers@...>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
> > >> 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has
> > >> been unreachable in the past weeks.
> > >> The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
> > >> content was lost.
> > >>
> > >> Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
> > >>
> > >> If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set
> > up
> > >> an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
> > >> tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a
> > copy of
> > >> the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and
> > >> never got any answer.
> > >>
> > >> I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's
> > >> content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.
> > >>
> > >> We need to know what is happening.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -Martin (Cham).
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> > >> Perforce.
> > >> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> > >> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> > and
> > >> the
> > >> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> " I don't pitch Linux to my friends,
> > >>  I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> > >> Perforce.
> > >> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> > >> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> > and
> > >> the
> > >> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> > >> Celestia-developers@...
> > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> > Perforce.
> > > With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> > > Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> > and the
> > > freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> > >
> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > > Celestia-developers@...
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> > Perforce.
> > With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> > Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
> > the
> > freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> >
> > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >

Re: [Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Hi all,

The Celestia website has been back online for sometimes now. However the
forum is still not reachable. The forum is the only useful part of that
website. There is so much information on this forum on making addons and
scripts. If the issue is that the persons in charge of the forum don't have
enough free time, I can help fixing/setting up and maintaining the forum.
However I would need the database. Anyone having access to that database
willing to help?

Thank you,

Bernard


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, PR@... <pr-celestia@...> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Guckytos here. Here are some news:
>
> Chris is having techincal difficulties that he is working on.
>
> The forum data is still fully available and not lost. Recent backups
> also exist.
>
> We (the Admins) are still trying to decide on how to proceed in the
> future. I can only ask you to be patient for a bit longer.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Guckytos
>
>
> Am 04.03.2014 17:49, schrieb Bernard GODARD:
> > John,
> >
> > The Internet archive only has some snapshots of the forums not the forum
> > SQL database.
> >
> > To be able to navigate easily in the forum, we need to use the phpBB
> > software with a copy of the original forum SQL database which cannot be
> > retrieved from snapshots of the internet archive or the Google search
> > engine cache.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM, John Van Vliet <
> john.k.vanvliet@...>wrote:
> >
> >> i take it you are not aware of the internet archive
> >> https://archive.org/web/
> >>
> >> Nov 2013
> >>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20131103200459/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
> >> Jan 2013
> >>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20130105164603/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Martin Charest <martin465@...>
> >> Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website
> >> To: Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>
> >> Cc: Celestia Developers <celestia-developers@...>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :
> >>
> >> As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
> >> 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has
> >> been unreachable in the past weeks.
> >> The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
> >> content was lost.
> >>
> >> Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
> >>
> >> If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set
> up
> >> an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
> >> tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a
> copy of
> >> the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and
> >> never got any answer.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's
> >> content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.
> >>
> >> We need to know what is happening.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Martin (Cham).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> >> Perforce.
> >> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> >> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> and
> >> the
> >> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> >>
> >>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> " I don't pitch Linux to my friends,
> >>  I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> >> Perforce.
> >> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> >> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> and
> >> the
> >> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> >>
> >>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Celestia-developers mailing list
> >> Celestia-developers@...
> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> Perforce.
> > With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> > Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization
> and the
> > freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
> >
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Celestia-developers mailing list
> > Celestia-developers@...
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> Perforce.
> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
> the
> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>

Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Hi Fridger,

Celestia.Sci is an interesting project.

However that does not change the fact that the Celestia forum is an
invaluable resource that needs to be preserved (not only for the
users/developers of Celestia but also apparently for the users/developers
of Celestia.Sci).

I am more interested in the Solar System and space mission visualization so
I would probably move to Cosmographia (
http://code.google.com/p/cosmographia/ ) but it is still in early
development.

My main concern at the moment would be making sure Celestia is not
forgotten. For this we may just need to make a release with the QT4 GUI
(current version seems stable enough). Most Linux distribution still ship
1.6.1 and without Spice support. I was thinking of using the OpenSuse Build
Service if I find the time to make packages for many distributions. I would
also include latest patches proposed on the mailing list, including 2 I
proposed:
- support for theora video recording in QT4 GUI
- support for more DE4XX ehemerides, support for INPOP ephemerides (this
one didn't make it into the SVN)

Ideally I would also like to move it to QT5 (longer support, native Wayland
support), but I won't find the time.

By the way, where are the sources of Celestia.Sci? Shouldn't you make it
easier to find them if you want to attract more developers?

Do you intend to keep all features of Celestia in Celestia.Sci or do you
plan on getting rid of functionalities such as spacecraft trajectory
visualization (not related to "deep space/cosmology")? Similarly is it only
targeted to astrophysics students/researchers or also to the general public?

Thank you,

Regards,


On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Fridger Schrempp
<fridger.schrempp@...>wrote:

>  Hi Bernard,
>
> how about having a look at our CelestialMatters (CM) site,
> http://forum.celestialmatters.org/.
>
>  Actually, most serious former members of shatters.net are meanwhile
> registered there. CM is also the (temporary) home of the **celestia.Sci**
> development, lead by myself.
>
> Here is an "executive summary" about the aims and achievements of
> **celestia.Sci** that I wrote already some time ago:
> http://forum.celestialmatters.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=473
>
> We do need further dedicated and competent developers!
>
> The scope of celestia.Sci is much enlarged beyond Celestia, notably via
> Deep Space and Cosmology simulation aspects. An interesting configuration
> in our team  is that Dawoon Jung (aka DW) currently writes his Master
> Thesis about Lensing phenomena embedded into the celestia.Sci code. He is a
> graduate student at the International Space University ISU) in
> Strasbourg/France and officially supervised by me and another Professor
> from ISU. So you see such things are also possible around celestia.Sci. DW
> already carries a Bachelor degree in scientific computing and was also a
> longtime member of the former Celestia Development.
>
> Regards,
> Fridger
>
>
> On 03/03/2014 06:46 PM, Bernard GODARD wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
>  As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
> 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has
> been unreachable in the past weeks.
>
>  The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
> content was lost.
>
>  Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
>
>  If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set
> up an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
> tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of
> the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?
>
>  Thank you,
>
>  Kind regards,
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to Perforce.
> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and the
> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing listCelestia-developers@...nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>
>

[Celestia-developers] Error C2039: 'max' : is not a member of 'std'

[R. Ross Holder <ross.holder@ou...>]

Am attempting to compile the 1.6.1 code using Visual Studio C++ 2013....and am getting the following error:
😈 error C2039: 'max' : is not a member of 'std'
(This same issue occurs with 'min', but I've omitted its reference here.)  This exception is returned at compile-time with a number of C3861 errors ('max': identifier not found).  They are recurrent in the following files:
solarsys.cppshademanager.cpp(possibly in associated headers; but unavailable for specific citation due to ongoing edits & troubleshooting of the code)
I'm including a sample compiler output for reference.  NOTE: This is not from unedited code, so it may not be complete.  I can roll-back and provide such output if necessary to troubleshoot the issue.
1>------ Build started: Project: celestia, Configuration: Debug Win32 ------1>Build started 15/03/2014 11:13:03 AM.1>InitializeBuildStatus:1>  Touching "Debug\celestia.tlog\unsuccessfulbuild".1>ClCompile:1>  frustum.cpp1>  cmdparser.cpp1>  shadermanager.cpp1>src\celengine\shadermanager.cpp(2511): error C3861: 'max': identifier not found1>src\celengine\shadermanager.cpp(2520): error C3861: 'max': identifier not found1>src\celengine\shadermanager.cpp(2566): error C2039: 'max' : is not a member of 'std'1>src\celengine\shadermanager.cpp(2566): error C3861: 'max': identifier not found1>  simulation.cpp1>  solarsys.cpp1>src\celengine\solarsys.cpp(938): error C3861: 'max': identifier not found1>src\celengine\solarsys.cpp(938): error C3861: 'min': identifier not found1>  Generating Code...1>1>Build FAILED.1>1>Time Elapsed 00:00:09.64========== Build: 0 succeeded, 1 failed, 0 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========15/03/2014 11:13:13 AM: System.ArgumentException: The parameter is incorrect. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070057 (E_INVALIDARG))   at EnvDTE.Properties.Item(Object index)   at MadsKristensen.EditorExtensions.ProjectHelpers.GetRootFolder(Project project)15/03/2014 11:13:13 AM: System.ArgumentException: The parameter is incorrect. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80070057 (E_INVALIDARG))   at EnvDTE.Properties.Item(Object index)   at MadsKristensen.EditorExtensions.ProjectHelpers.GetRootFolder(Project project)
I also note the following from within the util.h header file, which addresses usage of the min() & max() calls specifically:
From l.24 of util.h:
#ifdef _WIN32// The Windows header files define min and max macros. We prefer the min and// max templates from STL because they don't result in unexpected multiple// evaluations of arguments. In order to use them, we need to set NOMINMAX// to prevent namespace pollution by the Windows macros.#define NOMINMAX#endif
(I found this strange since the .cpp files causing the issues discussed here both exhibit 'using std' statements!)
Any/all help here appreciated!
Gratefully,R. Ross Holder(ross.holder@...)


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Re: [Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[Martin Charest <martin465@sy...>]

Le 2014-03-05 à 12:14, PR@... a écrit :
> Guckytos here. Here are some news:
> Chris is having techincal difficulties that he is working on.



What kind of "technical difficulties" ?  During several months ??

Just curious...



-Martin.

Re: [Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[PR@Celestia <pr-celestia@ar...>]

Hi guys,

Guckytos here. Here are some news:

Chris is having techincal difficulties that he is working on.

The forum data is still fully available and not lost. Recent backups
also exist.

We (the Admins) are still trying to decide on how to proceed in the
future. I can only ask you to be patient for a bit longer.

Best regards,

Guckytos


Am 04.03.2014 17:49, schrieb Bernard GODARD:
> John,
> 
> The Internet archive only has some snapshots of the forums not the forum
> SQL database.
> 
> To be able to navigate easily in the forum, we need to use the phpBB
> software with a copy of the original forum SQL database which cannot be
> retrieved from snapshots of the internet archive or the Google search
> engine cache.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM, John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@...>wrote:
> 
>> i take it you are not aware of the internet archive
>> https://archive.org/web/
>>
>> Nov 2013
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20131103200459/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
>> Jan 2013
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20130105164603/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Martin Charest <martin465@...>
>> Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website
>> To: Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>
>> Cc: Celestia Developers <celestia-developers@...>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :
>>
>> As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
>> 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has
>> been unreachable in the past weeks.
>> The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
>> content was lost.
>>
>> Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
>>
>> If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set up
>> an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
>> tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of
>> the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?
>>
>>
>>
>> I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and
>> never got any answer.
>>
>> I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's
>> content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.
>>
>> We need to know what is happening.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Martin (Cham).
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
>> Perforce.
>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
>> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
>> the
>> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
>>
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Celestia-developers@...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> " I don't pitch Linux to my friends,
>>  I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
>> Perforce.
>> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
>> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
>> the
>> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
>>
>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
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>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. 
> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and the
> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
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Re: [Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

John,

The Internet archive only has some snapshots of the forums not the forum
SQL database.

To be able to navigate easily in the forum, we need to use the phpBB
software with a copy of the original forum SQL database which cannot be
retrieved from snapshots of the internet archive or the Google search
engine cache.



On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:52 PM, John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@...>wrote:

> i take it you are not aware of the internet archive
> https://archive.org/web/
>
> Nov 2013
> https://web.archive.org/web/20131103200459/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
> Jan 2013
> https://web.archive.org/web/20130105164603/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Martin Charest <martin465@...>
> Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website
> To: Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>
> Cc: Celestia Developers <celestia-developers@...>
>
>
>
> Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :
>
> As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
> 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has
> been unreachable in the past weeks.
> The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
> content was lost.
>
> Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
>
> If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set up
> an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
> tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of
> the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?
>
>
>
> I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and
> never got any answer.
>
> I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's
> content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.
>
> We need to know what is happening.
>
>
>
> -Martin (Cham).
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> Perforce.
> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
> the
> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
> _______________________________________________
> Celestia-developers mailing list
> Celestia-developers@...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/celestia-developers
>
>
>
>
> --
> " I don't pitch Linux to my friends,
>  I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to
> Perforce.
> With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.
> Faster operations. Version large binaries.  Built-in WAN optimization and
> the
> freedom to use Git, Perforce or both. Make the move to Perforce.
>
> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=122218951&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk
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>
>

[Celestia-developers] Fwd: celestia website

[John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@gm...>]

i take it you are not aware of the internet archive
https://archive.org/web/

Nov 2013
https://web.archive.org/web/20131103200459/http://www.shatters.net/forum/
Jan 2013
https://web.archive.org/web/20130105164603/http://www.shatters.net/forum/



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Martin Charest <martin465@...>
Date: Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website
To: Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>
Cc: Celestia Developers <celestia-developers@...>



Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :

As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has been
unreachable in the past weeks.
The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
content was lost.

Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?

If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set up
an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of
the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?



I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and
never got any answer.

I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's
content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.

We need to know what is happening.



-Martin (Cham).


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Re: [Celestia-developers] celestia website

[Martin Charest <martin465@sy...>]

Le 2014-03-03 à 12:46, Bernard GODARD a écrit :
> As you are probably aware, the Celestia website ( 216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has been unreachable in the past weeks.
> The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its content was lost.
> 
> Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?
> 
> If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set up an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?


I emailed Chris Laurel two times during the last couple of months, and never got any answer.

I'm wondering too about what is happening, and I agree that the forum's content is a treasure chest that need to be saved.

We need to know what is happening.



-Martin (Cham).

[Celestia-developers] celestia website

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Dear all,

As you are probably aware, the Celestia website (
216.­231.­48.­101/­celestia/ , previously  shatters.net/celestia) ­has been
unreachable in the past weeks.

The celestia forum is an invaluable resource and it would be sad if its
content was lost.

Do you know the reasons for the site being unavailable?

If the problem is just finding an hosting platform, we could try to set up
an account at one of the free hosting service for free projects (such as
tuxfamily). I am willing to help with this, however, I don't have a copy of
the forum data. Can anyone do something about this?

Thank you,

Kind regards,

[Celestia-developers] lodgy, bfbf, and the rest of him

[John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@gm...>]

remove this user
NOW!!!!

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" I don't pitch Linux to my friends,
 I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"

[Celestia-developers] scope of lua variables

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Dear all,

I am looking into having celestia display a satellite whose orbit and
attitude are provided in real time over a network socket.

The easiest way would be to read the socket from a scriptedOrbit lua
script. But this implies that the simulation time updating would be
dependent on how frequently the orbit function is called. Also this implies
that in a call to orbit the time argument is ignored and the state returned
by orbit always corresponds to a later time with respect to the one
returned by the previous call, whereas one could request orbit at time t
and t+dt in any order to compute the velocity.

To avoid these problems, it would be better to have the socket be read from
a lua hook that is run in the main Celestia loop.


The lua hook would reads from a TCP socket in non blocking mode the
following information :
- current simulation time
- current simulation rate
- number of spacecraft
- spacecraft 1 ID
- epoch for spacecraft 1 state
- position vector spacecraft 1
- velocity vector spacecraft 1
- attitude quaternion spacecraft 1
- angular velocity vector spacecraft 1
....
....
- spacecraft n ID
- epoch for spacecraft n state
- position vector spacecraft n
- velocity vector spacecraft n
- attitude quaternion spacecraft n
- angular velocity vector spacecraft n

Each time such a block of data is received:
- the actual simulation time would be compared to the one received on the
socket and if they differ by more than some epsilon, the simulation time
would be reset.
- the simulation rate is set
- the data (epoch and states) for each spacecraft is stored in some global
variables.


The scripted orbit called with argument t would then return (position
vector spacecraft at epoch)+(velocity vector spacecraft at epoch)*(t-epoch)
(we could also imagine a higher order scheme where acceleration or other
extrapolation/interpolation parameters are passed via the socket)
Similarly the scripted attitude would return the quaternion at epoch
rotated after dt=(t-epoch) at provided angular velocity.

This scheme requires that the lua hook and the scriptedOrbit,
scriptedOrientation share some variables.

Unfortunately I have not found a nice way to do this yet without changing
the Celestia source code:
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16873

Therefore I am thinking of adding a new celx command to store variables in
a dictionary and retrieve them. This dictionary implemented in C++ in
celestia would then be used to share variables across all scripts.

What do you think?
Is this the right approach?
Do you have a better idea on how to do this?

Kind regards,

Re: [Celestia-developers] patch for more JPL DE-style ephemeris support.

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Dear all,

I send the patch again with a minor fix from
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17282
The code was making use of "and" instead of "&&". This was understood by
GCC but not by all compilers.

Kind regards,



On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@...>wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> The current celestia code supports only JPL Big Endian ephemerides
> DE406/DE405/DE200.
>
> The big endian ephemeris DE406 comes in chunk of 300 years. If you
> want to concatenate several pieces, using the software provided by JPL
> (which does not handle endianess), you need a big endian platform. The
> little endian DE406 comes in one piece of 6000 years, so you don't
> even need to concatenate this one.
>
> The patch proposed adds the following:
> - support for both endianess with autodetection of endianess
> - support for all JPL DE ephemeris (from DE200) with autodetection of
> record size.
> - support for JPL DE compatible ephemeris such as the INPOP ephemeris
> from Paris observatory (only the ephemeris files in the legacy JPL DE
> compatible format and with timescale TDB, not the INPOP native format,
> or the TCB files). http://www.imcce.fr/inpop/download10e.php
>
> The method to autodetect ephemeris type, record size and endianess is
> based on the CALCEPH software.
> It would probably be better if possible to wrap around the CALCEPH
> library (so that it would also support INPOP native format) but this
> would be more work.
>
> In addition to the ephemeris number and the start and end date, the
> record size and endianess are also printed to the log (which you get
> by pressing the tilde key).
> If the ephemeris is an INPOP ephemeris, then the ephemeris number is
> not printed to the log: it just says "INPOP" (I have been too lazy to
> find out where this is stored).
>
> It has been tested with:
> - DE406 big endian
> - DE406 little endian
> - DE405 big endian
> - DE423 little endian
> - INPOP10A little endian
>
> However, I have not performed any accurate regression testing. I have
> just checked that the planets orbits do not look strange and that the
> log is reporting the correct endianess, record size and ephemeris
> name.
>
> Only tested on Linux/x86_64, would appreciate if it could be tested
> further and eventually be merged.
>
>
> Thank you,
>

[Celestia-developers] [PATCH] libpng-1.6 fixes

[Kacper Kowalik <xarthisius@ge...>]

Hi,
up to version 1.5, libpng included <string.h> via png.h. Since 1.6.0 it
doesn't do that anymore. As result celestia fails to build with
following errors:

image.cpp: In function ‘Image* LoadJPEGImage(const string&, int)’:
image.cpp:530:61: error: ‘memcpy’ was not declared in this scope

For full build log please see downstream bug report [1]
Attached patch fixes this issue.
Best regards,
Kacper Kowalik

[Celestia-developers] patch for more JPL DE-style ephemeris support.

[Bernard GODARD <bernard.godard@gm...>]

Dear all,

The current celestia code supports only JPL Big Endian ephemerides
DE406/DE405/DE200.

The big endian ephemeris DE406 comes in chunk of 300 years. If you
want to concatenate several pieces, using the software provided by JPL
(which does not handle endianess), you need a big endian platform. The
little endian DE406 comes in one piece of 6000 years, so you don't
even need to concatenate this one.

The patch proposed adds the following:
- support for both endianess with autodetection of endianess
- support for all JPL DE ephemeris (from DE200) with autodetection of
record size.
- support for JPL DE compatible ephemeris such as the INPOP ephemeris
from Paris observatory (only the ephemeris files in the legacy JPL DE
compatible format and with timescale TDB, not the INPOP native format,
or the TCB files). http://www.imcce.fr/inpop/download10e.php

The method to autodetect ephemeris type, record size and endianess is
based on the CALCEPH software.
It would probably be better if possible to wrap around the CALCEPH
library (so that it would also support INPOP native format) but this
would be more work.

In addition to the ephemeris number and the start and end date, the
record size and endianess are also printed to the log (which you get
by pressing the tilde key).
If the ephemeris is an INPOP ephemeris, then the ephemeris number is
not printed to the log: it just says "INPOP" (I have been too lazy to
find out where this is stored).

It has been tested with:
- DE406 big endian
- DE406 little endian
- DE405 big endian
- DE423 little endian
- INPOP10A little endian

However, I have not performed any accurate regression testing. I have
just checked that the planets orbits do not look strange and that the
log is reporting the correct endianess, record size and ephemeris
name.

Only tested on Linux/x86_64, would appreciate if it could be tested
further and eventually be merged.


Thank you,

Re: [Celestia-developers] DSO bug in svn

[Chris Piker <chris-piker@ui...>]

John

Just curious, are you building the trunk version of Celestia, or one of 
the branches?

--
Chris

On 01/25/2013 01:22 AM, John Van Vliet wrote:
> this is a bit old but still around
>
> i just installed OpenSUSE 12.2 and the libGL.so DSO bug hit
> see shatters post
> http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16881&p=132611#p132611
>
> -- a work around is adding $(GL_LIBS) manually to the
> src/celestia/Makefile.am
> for some reason that is not getting passed
>
> --- diff --
> 75,76c75,77
> <      $(SPICE_LIBS)
> <
> ---
>>      $(SPICE_LIBS) \
>>          $(GL_LIBS)
>>
> ----- end diff -----

[Celestia-developers] DSO bug in svn

[John Van Vliet <john.k.vanvliet@gm...>]

this is a bit old but still around

i just installed OpenSUSE 12.2 and the libGL.so DSO bug hit
see shatters post
http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16881&p=132611#p132611

-- a work around is adding $(GL_LIBS) manually to the
src/celestia/Makefile.am
for some reason that is not getting passed

--- diff --
75,76c75,77
<     $(SPICE_LIBS)
<
---
>     $(SPICE_LIBS) \
>         $(GL_LIBS)
>
----- end diff -----

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 I let MS Windows 7 do that for me!!"

[Celestia-developers] Patch to add spice2xyzv man page

[Chris Piker <chris-piker@ui...>]

The following patch was generated from the directory:

 
https://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/celestia/branches/ver1_7_0/celestia

it adds a manual page for the spice2xyzv tool using information from the 
readme.txt file.

--
C. Piker

Re: [Celestia-developers] Just added the Period keyword for SampledTrajectory objects

[Chris Piker <chris-piker@ui...>]

Here's the patch.  It is was generated from the root of:

 
https://celestia.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/celestia/branches/ver1_7_0/celestia

via the command:

   svn diff src/celephem src/celengine

Would you prefer separate patch files or is a roll-up patch representing 
a single change okay?

Also should I be working from the trunk/celestia code instead of 
branches/ver1_7_0?

Thanks alot!
--
Chris


On 01/05/2013 10:44 PM, Chris Laurel wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> This seems like a worthwhile change. I think that this mailing list will
> allow attachments, so you can just try attaching the diffs to another
> message.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Chris Piker<chris-piker@...>  wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I'm using sampled trajectories for Mars Express spacecraft position data
>> and needed to cut down on the size of the "orbit track".  I've compiled
>> a new version of the 1.7 branch code with small changes to the following
>> files:
>>
>>          celephem/samporbit.cpp
>>          celephem/spiceinterface.cpp
>>          celephem/spiceorbit.cpp
>>          celephem/samporbit.h
>>          celengine/trajmanager.h
>>          celengine/trajmanager.cpp
>>          celengine/parseobject.cpp
>>
>> How would I go about creating and submitting a patch for review?
>> --
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Celestia-developers] Just added the Period keyword for SampledTrajectory objects

[Chris Laurel <claurel@gm...>]

Hi Chris,

This seems like a worthwhile change. I think that this mailing list will
allow attachments, so you can just try attaching the diffs to another
message.

Cheers,

Chris



On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Chris Piker <chris-piker@...> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I'm using sampled trajectories for Mars Express spacecraft position data
> and needed to cut down on the size of the "orbit track".  I've compiled
> a new version of the 1.7 branch code with small changes to the following
> files:
>
>         celephem/samporbit.cpp
>         celephem/spiceinterface.cpp
>         celephem/spiceorbit.cpp
>         celephem/samporbit.h
>         celengine/trajmanager.h
>         celengine/trajmanager.cpp
>         celengine/parseobject.cpp
>
> How would I go about creating and submitting a patch for review?
> --
> Chris
>
>
>
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[Celestia-developers] Just added the Period keyword for SampledTrajectory objects

[Chris Piker <chris-piker@ui...>]

Hello

I'm using sampled trajectories for Mars Express spacecraft position data 
and needed to cut down on the size of the "orbit track".  I've compiled 
a new version of the 1.7 branch code with small changes to the following 
files:

        celephem/samporbit.cpp
        celephem/spiceinterface.cpp
        celephem/spiceorbit.cpp
        celephem/samporbit.h
        celengine/trajmanager.h
        celengine/trajmanager.cpp
        celengine/parseobject.cpp

How would I go about creating and submitting a patch for review?
--
Chris

[Celestia-developers] Hello Celestia

[Suwen <icyvapor@gm...>]

Hello,

I'm new to Celestia, and wish to participate in and hopefully contribute to
Celestia development.

Celestia is very impressive. I wish to have a better understanding of the
system, and fix bugs for starters.

I finished masters degree program in computer science about 1 year ago. I
had some experience doing graphics programming, or simple scientific
visualization software, but still a fairly green developer. I have close to
none knowledge in Astronomy.

I'm comfortable with both Windows development environment (VS) or Linux
console (vi). I've sync'ed up to trunk, and could build and run it in VS.

There seem to be some open bug tickets in the bug tracker. But probably I'm
not there yet.. Any suggestion on how I should proceed is much appreciated!


Thanks!
--Suwen

Re: [Celestia-developers] why do you ignore bug reports? is celestia abandoned?

[Hleb Valoshka <375gnu@gm...>]

On 9/12/12, Pat Suwalski <pat@...> wrote:

> I could fix the bugs by applying the patches that come in, but I keep
> hearing that 1.7.0 is to ship without the GTK interface, but with the Qt
> interface by default.

These patches were posted 8 (eight!) months before 1.6.1. While i18n
patch is not so important, another one that fixes nasty bug with
options dialog is been expected to be applied in 'bugfix' release.

Re: [Celestia-developers] why do you ignore bug reports? is celestia abandoned?

[Pat Suwalski <pat@su...>]

On 26/08/12 05:43 PM, Hleb Valoshka wrote:
> Next month I sent mail directly to Pat Suwalski. Guess reaction?
> Nothing. Silence. No 'thanks', no 'fuck off', just silence.

Hi Hleb,

I could fix the bugs by applying the patches that come in, but I keep 
hearing that 1.7.0 is to ship without the GTK interface, but with the Qt 
interface by default.

While I'd like to see the GTK front-end continue, it would really need 
to get moved to GTK3 to have any future. Last I checked, gtkglext hadn't 
been ported yet, making it impossible.

--Pat