So it turns out that someone is selling something for $2.99 in the Mac App Store called 'Cosmic Crawler', and it's nothing but a renamed Celestia. I suppose a polite note to the 'developer' Michael Latour is the right first step? I don't know that he's doing anything illegal, but it's certainly extremely bad manners.


On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Chris Laurel <> wrote:
I'm in favor of packaging Celestia for the App Store... eventually. Martin's point about Apple's Human Interface Guidelines is a good one. I'm not advocating for a special Mac-only interface for Celestia, but I do think it would be best to wait until Celestia's UI is a bit more friendly before trying to submit it.

My bigger concern is about the GPL. This is a much bigger deal for MacOS apps than iOS apps. It sounds like the current policy is one of, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." There's probably lots of GPL2 code in App Store apps, but no one complains unless the issue of licensing is raised with Apple. I uncomfortable with this lack of resolution, and would prefer to wait and see if Apple adopts an official policy allowing GPL2.

Best regards,


On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Martin Charest <> wrote:
And there's another important thing to say against the idea to present Celestia in the Crap Store :

It may actually be unfavorable for Celestia !  Since its interface is highly "non-Mac"-like, it would probably be refused by Apple (especially since Celestia is OpenSource and apparently Apple refuses OpenSource apps because they want to make money with the Crap Store !).  Even if it was accepted, it could end in this HIG blog (and some others too) :

This may turn out to have a strong anti-publicity for Celestia !


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