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#133 Seven Membered ring preferably in different orientation

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John May
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2016-08-10
2009-09-14
pmatos
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Hi,

When trying to draw a seven membered ring and I call clean structure. It comes out on its side. One of the bonds should be flat on the bottom with a pointy one on top.

See image attached.
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Discussion

  • pmatos

    pmatos - 2009-09-14
     
  • Stefan Kuhn

    Stefan Kuhn - 2009-09-15

    This is really a problem of the SDG. I assign this to Christoph, he might have an idea if it can be done easily or how hard it is. I have no idea about the SDG.

     
  • Christoph Steinbeck

    This is a general and much more profound problem with my SDG code - the final global rotation of the outcome to a generally accepted form is not performed. I don't think this is a problem - I just never found the time to do it. If you take a steroid with some side chains and clean it up, you will see what I mean :-)
    To overcome the problem, I suggest a quick fix for the worst problem first and then work on a clean solution.
    The quick-fix would be a 2D Kabsch-Alignment (CDK code) of the outcome of the SDG to give at leat the approximately correct solution.
    For a clean solution, we would need to assemble the accepted rules for putting the axes of structures and then implement those.

     
  • Egon Willighagen

    • labels: jchempaint --> jchempaint, cdk.sdg
    • assigned_to: Christoph Steinbeck --> John May
    • Group: -->
     
  • John May

    John May - 2016-08-10

    Depends which way I hold my screen :p. Some of this comes down to personal preference, for example Roger insists pyrroles should have the NH at the top, I say at the bottom, wikipedia and google images agree with me.

    You can now fix coordinates so it's possible to make any ring shape you like.

     
  • John May

    John May - 2016-08-10
    • status: open --> closed
     

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