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#1052 UEF water heaters in EAA & correct standard design comparison

2019.1.3
Verified
None
Critical
Comp.Error
2016&2019
TBD
CBECCr
2020-08-17
2018-10-08
Ken Nittler
No

On E+A+A projects, CBECC won't let the user input a UEF rated water heater of any type when it's existing.. This should probably be updated during your team's E+A+A work since at some point in the near future a UEF will be an existing water heater for some projects.

This applies to both 2016 and 2019

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  • Ken Nittler

    Ken Nittler - 2018-10-08
    • Description has changed:

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     On E+A+A projects, CBECC won't let the user input a UEF rated water heater of any type when it's existing..  This should probably be updated during your team's E+A+A work since at some  point in the near future a UEF will be an existing water heater for some projects.
    
    -Should this also apply to 2016?
    +This applies to both 2016 and 2019
    
    • Version: 2019 --> 2016&2019
     
  • Ken Nittler

    Ken Nittler - 2018-10-08
    • assigned_to: Larry Froess --> Scott Criswell
     
  • Ken Nittler

    Ken Nittler - 2019-03-04
    • status: New --> 20%Done
     
  • Scott Criswell

    Scott Criswell - 2019-07-09
    • Priority: Medium --> High
    • Milestone: 2019.1.0 --> 2019.next
     
  • Dee Anne Ross

    Dee Anne Ross - 2019-08-06
    • Priority: High --> Critical
    • Milestone: 2019.next --> 2019.2.1
     
  • Dee Anne Ross

    Dee Anne Ross - 2019-11-19
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    +AlterStorage.ribd19 (53.9 kB; application/octet-stream)
    +AlterTankless95.ribd19 (54.2 kB; application/octet-stream)
     EAA_UEF.PNG (17.5 kB; image/png)
     EAA_UEF.ribd19 (50.4 kB; application/octet-stream)
    
     
  • Dee Anne Ross

    Dee Anne Ross - 2019-11-19

    The standard and proposed are using different DHW calculations. So what should be 0 compliance is a penalty because the standard design for an altered 0.81 UEF is a 0.82 EF; and for a 0.60 UEF consumer storage the standard design is 0.60 EF. Danny Tam adds that the problem is using the new gas model compared against the old. Existing water heaters should use the new gas model too. Allow old EF as an input, and then internally CBECC convert the EF into UEF and use the new gas model. [NOTE: was going to edit comment added earlier today, but didn't see it. This combines that comment with Danny's.]

     
  • Dee Anne Ross

    Dee Anne Ross - 2019-11-21
    • summary: Allow UEF water heaters for existing in EAA --> UEF water heaters in EAA & correct standard design comparison
    • Milestone: 2019.2.1 --> 2019.2.0
     
  • Scott Criswell

    Scott Criswell - 2020-08-14
    • status: 20%Done --> Fixed
     
  • Scott Criswell

    Scott Criswell - 2020-08-14

    ruleset mods checked into SVN @ r1907

    • changed conditional enumerations to allow all heater types for Existing heaters
    • altered rule to prevent forcing reset of old heater types to new ones for heaters w/ no valid Status (Ex/Alt/New) (typically due to not being assigned)
    • removed error check preventing analysis for models w/ Existing heaters of newer (UEF) types
     
  • Dee Anne Ross

    Dee Anne Ross - 2020-08-17
    • status: Fixed --> Verified
     
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