Thread: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones?
Brought to you by:
shermpendley
From: Rachel B. <sea...@ma...> - 2011-10-11 23:31:58
|
So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his computer. So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the changes he was making. :( Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? |
From: Mark A. <em...@em...> - 2011-10-12 00:13:44
|
I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. Mark On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...>wrote: > So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in > something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to > see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward > would be > > I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that > statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That > seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the > SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know > how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his > computer. > > So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do > the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which > was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all > the changes he was making. :( > > Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry > CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in > Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in > Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-12 20:16:10
|
I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. Matt. From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> Cc: <cam...@li...> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. Mark On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> wrote: > So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something > of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the > project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be > > I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that > statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems > like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the > SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how > to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his > computer. > > So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the > interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was > already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the > changes he was making. :( > > Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry > CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in > Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in > Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct > _______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct__________________________________________ _____ Camelbones-devel mailing list Cam...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel |
From: Sam M. <sa...@vi...> - 2011-10-12 20:32:32
|
On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. > > I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. > > Matt. > > As much as it matters, I'd vote in favor of it. Also, I hadn't heard until this thread. I was a bit taken aback. -Sam |
From: Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...> - 2011-10-13 08:25:23
|
Hi, I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. jonasbn -- AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. > > I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be too awkward. > > Matt. > > From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> > Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 > To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> > Cc: <cam...@li...> > Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? > > I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. > > Mark > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> wrote: >> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly moved forward would be >> >> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they could get that off of his computer. >> >> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to start over on all the changes he was making. :( >> >> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________________ Camelbones-devel mailing list Cam...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a > definitive record of customers, application performance, security > threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________________ > Camelbones-devel mailing list > Cam...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-14 14:06:40
|
FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective C. On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Brømsø Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: >Hi, > >I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. > >And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. > > >jonasbn >-- >AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ > >On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >> >> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>too awkward. >> >> Matt. >> >> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >> Cc: <cam...@li...> >> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >> >> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >> >> Mark >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >><sea...@ma...> wrote: >>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>moved forward would be >>> >>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>could get that off of his computer. >>> >>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>> >>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>------ >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>Cam...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>----- >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> >>http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- >All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >definitive record of customers, application performance, security >threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >_______________________________________________ >Camelbones-devel mailing list >Cam...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel > |
From: Jonas B. N. <jo...@gm...> - 2011-10-17 09:49:10
|
What could our next step be? - Should we approach the Sourceforge administrators and take administrative ownership of the project? - Should we just fork the project to Github and reboot the project? - Leave things as they are? jonasbn -- AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ On 14/10/2011, at 16.06, Matt Sergeant wrote: > FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. > > I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective > C. > > On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Brømsø Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. >> >> And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. >> >> >> jonasbn >> -- >> AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >> ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >> twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ >> >> On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: >> >>> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >>> >>> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>> too awkward. >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >>> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >>> Cc: <cam...@li...> >>> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >>> >>> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>> shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>> only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >>> <sea...@ma...> wrote: >>>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>> something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>> wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>> moved forward would be >>>> >>>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>> that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>> updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>> but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>> could get that off of his computer. >>>> >>>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>> to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>> method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>> start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>>> >>>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>> carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>> scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>> to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> ------ >>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>> a >>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>> security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>> and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>> ________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>> ________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >> _______________________________________________ >> Camelbones-devel mailing list >> Cam...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >> > > |
From: Matt S. <ma...@se...> - 2011-10-17 19:58:48
|
Rachel has access to the sf repository as admin, so that's not a problem (though I agree with moving to github). The problem is probably momentum now. This is a big project, and I don't understand a tenth of it. Matt. On Mon, 17 Oct 2011, Jonas B. Nielsen wrote: > What could our next step be? > > - Should we approach the Sourceforge administrators and take administrative ownership of the project? > - Should we just fork the project to Github and reboot the project? > - Leave things as they are? > > jonasbn > -- > AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... > ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... > twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ > > On 14/10/2011, at 16.06, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >> FWIW I did send a message. No response yet. >> >> I'm starting to think I need to consider porting DVD Spanner to Objective >> C. >> >> On 11-10-13 4:04 AM, "Jonas Br�ms� Nielsen" <jo...@gm...> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think it would be great if Sherm's project could live on. >>> >>> And I have confidence in Matt being the one approaching the relatives. >>> >>> >>> jonasbn >>> -- >>> AIM: BjonasN Gtalk: jo...@gm... >>> ICQ: 62401545 MSN: jo...@io... >>> twitter: jonasbn blog: http://e-diot.dk/ >>> >>> On 12/10/2011, at 21.59, Matt Sergeant wrote: >>> >>>> I have Sherm on facebook and it does list two family members on there. >>>> >>>> I'd be happy to approach one of them if people think that wouldn't be >>>> too awkward. >>>> >>>> Matt. >>>> >>>> From: Mark Anderson <em...@em...> >>>> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:43:08 -0400 >>>> To: Rachel Blackman <sea...@ma...> >>>> Cc: <cam...@li...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Camelbones-devel] Future of CamelBones? >>>> >>>> I agree wholeheartedly. This was a great project, and it would be a >>>> shame to see it go. I'd be willing to help anyway I can. I can mostly >>>> only help coding, I only knew Sherm through Camelbones. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Rachel Blackman >>>> <sea...@ma...> wrote: >>>>> So, with Sherm having sadly passed away, this leaves CamelBones in >>>>> something of a limbo state. However, I don't think Sherm would've >>>>> wanted to see the project fade away, and I think seeing it properly >>>>> moved forward would be >>>>> >>>>> I know from our e-mails that Sherm was very close to a 2.0 version >>>>> that statically bundled Perl so that it didn't break on system updates. >>>>> That seems like a good path to go down, but unfortunately, he hadn't >>>>> updated the SourceForge source image in a very, very long time. And >>>>> but I don't know how to get in touch with his family to see if they >>>>> could get that off of his computer. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone who works on a Lion-aware version would either have to try >>>>> to do the interim 'build and bundle a new support bundle for Lion' >>>>> method, which was already getting pretty hacky, or else would have to >>>>> start over on all the changes he was making. :( >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any thoughts on how best to carry on Sherm's legacy, and >>>>> carry CamelBones on both the way I used it (to allow Cocoa apps to be >>>>> scripted in Perl) and the way I know others did (to allow entire apps >>>>> to be written in Perl using the Objective-C interfaces)? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ------ >>>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains >>>>> a >>>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>>> Cam...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure >>>> contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, >>>> security threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data >>>> and makes sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>>> ________ Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ----- >>>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>>> >>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct_______________________________________ >>>> ________ >>>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>>> Cam...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ---- >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. Splunk takes this data and makes >>> sense of it. Business sense. IT sense. Common sense. >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-oct >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Camelbones-devel mailing list >>> Cam...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/camelbones-devel >>> >> >> > > |