From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-02-07 14:04:00
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Aggie (mainly) What integration did you do with the plagiarism detection service Turn It In? Oxford is now interested. Adam -- Adam Marshall - OUCS E-learning Conferences. Book online Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ |
From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-02-07 15:01:55
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We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. They have to remove any graphics. The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and exported in zip file. This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. The zip file is then uploaded to www.submit.ac.uk, the JISC Turnitin site. For each student you get an 'originality report' with the plagiarised stuff marked up in colour and an indication of where it was plagiarised from. We have standard procedures to decide whether a case is worth pursuing, and what happens next. Aggie ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Sciences Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 07 February 2007 14:04 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in Aggie (mainly) What integration did you do with the plagiarism detection service Turn It In? Oxford is now interested. Adam -- Adam Marshall - OUCS E-learning Conferences. Book online Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-02-07 15:35:52
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WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's powerlink. Do we know what this means? Or is the US turnitin a whole different kettle of ball-park to the UK one? In any case I think we'd be interested in the zipping 'button' and any other related functionality. Is it in Bod-HEAD? adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Andrew Booth | Sent: 07 February 2007 15:00 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. They have to | remove any graphics. | | The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and exported in zip | file. | This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. | | The zip file is then uploaded to www.submit.ac.uk, the JISC Turnitin site. | | For each student you get an 'originality report' with the plagiarised | stuff | marked up in colour and an indication of where it was plagiarised from. | | We have standard procedures to decide whether a case is worth pursuing, | and | what happens next. | | Aggie | | ____________________________________________ | Andrew G Booth | Professor of Online Learning | Institute of Life Sciences Education | Faculty of Biological Sciences | Garstang Building | University of Leeds | Leeds LS2 9JT | U.K. | Tel: +44-113-343-3142 | ____________________________________________ | | No Education Patents | Boycott Blackboard | http://www.noedupatents.org/ | ____________________________________________ | | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Adam Marshall | Sent: 07 February 2007 14:04 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Subject: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | Aggie (mainly) | | What integration did you do with the plagiarism detection service Turn It | In? Oxford is now interested. | | Adam | | -- | Adam Marshall - OUCS | | E-learning Conferences. Book online | Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ | Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ | | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier. | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier. | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-02-07 16:48:23
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There is supposed to be a Turnitin web service, but I've never been able = to get details of it. The folks at Northumbria Learning seem to have done = some work in this area with JISC e-Framework funding. I'll see if I can have = a word with them. ____________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Sciences Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142=20 ____________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Adam Marshall Sent: 07 February 2007 15:36 To: 'Bodington developers' Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's = powerlink.=20 Do we know what this means? Or is the US turnitin a whole different = kettle of ball-park to the UK one? In any case I think we'd be interested in the zipping 'button' and any = other related functionality. Is it in Bod-HEAD? adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf = Of | Andrew Booth | Sent: 07 February 2007 15:00 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in |=20 | We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. They have = to | remove any graphics. |=20 | The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and exported in = zip | file. | This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. |=20 | The zip file is then uploaded to www.submit.ac.uk, the JISC Turnitin = site. |=20 | For each student you get an 'originality report' with the plagiarised | stuff | marked up in colour and an indication of where it was plagiarised = from. |=20 | We have standard procedures to decide whether a case is worth = pursuing, | and | what happens next. |=20 | Aggie |=20 | ____________________________________________ | Andrew G Booth | Professor of Online Learning | Institute of Life Sciences Education | Faculty of Biological Sciences | Garstang Building | University of Leeds | Leeds LS2 9JT | U.K. | Tel: +44-113-343-3142 | ____________________________________________ |=20 | No Education Patents | Boycott Blackboard | http://www.noedupatents.org/ | ____________________________________________ |=20 | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf = Of | Adam Marshall | Sent: 07 February 2007 14:04 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Subject: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in |=20 | Aggie (mainly) |=20 | What integration did you do with the plagiarism detection service Turn = It | In? Oxford is now interested. |=20 | Adam |=20 | -- | Adam Marshall - OUCS |=20 | E-learning Conferences. Book online | Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ | Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - | http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ |=20 |=20 |=20 | = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, = security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier. | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache = Geronimo | = http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |=20 |=20 | = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, = security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier. | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache = Geronimo | = http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers -------------------------------------------------------------------------= Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, = security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache = Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=3Dlnk&kid=3D120709&bid=3D263057&dat=3D= 121642 _______________________________________________ Bodington-developers mailing list Bod...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-02-07 17:01:06
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| -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Andrew Booth | Sent: 07 February 2007 16:48 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | There is supposed to be a Turnitin web service, but I've never been able | to | get details of it. The folks at Northumbria Learning seem to have done | some | work in this area with JISC e-Framework funding. I'll see if I can have a | word with them. | Excellent Aggie. If you fail to get useful information then Mr 'Turn It In' Himself will be speaking at our 'Beyond the Search Engine' event (below). We can corner him in the toilets and turn the screws until he gives us the details! Adam -- Adam Marshall - OUCS E-learning Conferences. Book online Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ |
From: Paul D. <pau...@ou...> - 2007-02-08 17:08:22
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% % % WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's powerlink. % % Do we know what this means? Or is the US turnitin a whole different kettle % of ball-park to the UK one? US and Turnitin UK are the same thing - all our stuff goes over the water Paul |
From: Matthew B. <mat...@ou...> - 2007-02-09 11:13:40
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Adam Marshall wrote: > WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's powerlink. I believe PowerLinks is very similar to IMS TI which allows a user authenticated in one WebApp to use another one and have some sort of result passed back. -- Matthew Buckett |
From: Andrew B. <a.g...@le...> - 2007-02-09 12:08:04
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That's fine if you want students to submit their own work and receive = their own reports. Our experience is that students use this to tune their = work to defeat Turnitin. Not what we are trying to do, so we use Bodington to = gather the work and then an administrator sends off the zip file. When the = results return (can take a couple of days, so I wouldn't wait for a web service reply), the administrator alerts the module manager, who then looks at = the reports. ___________________________________________________ Andrew G Booth Professor of Online Learning Institute of Life Sciences Education Faculty of Biological Sciences Garstang Building University of Leeds Leeds LS2 9JT U.K. Tel: +44-113-343-3142 ___________________________________________________ No Education Patents Boycott Blackboard http://www.noedupatents.org/ ___________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: bod...@li... [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of Matthew Buckett Sent: 09 February 2007 11:14 To: Bodington developers Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in Adam Marshall wrote: > WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's = powerlink.=20 I believe PowerLinks is very similar to IMS TI which allows a user authenticated in one WebApp to use another one and have some sort of result passed back. --=20 Matthew Buckett |
From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-02-09 14:43:22
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This use case was mentioned on Wednesday, .., and I thought much the same thing: that students would use it to make sure their plagerised messages pass plagerism detection. Its like when the British got hold of an Enigma machine! Adam | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Andrew Booth | Sent: 09 February 2007 12:08 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | That's fine if you want students to submit their own work and receive | their | own reports. Our experience is that students use this to tune their work | to | defeat Turnitin. Not what we are trying to do, so we use Bodington to | gather | the work and then an administrator sends off the zip file. When the | results | return (can take a couple of days, so I wouldn't wait for a web service | reply), the administrator alerts the module manager, who then looks at the | reports. | | ___________________________________________________ | | Andrew G Booth | Professor of Online Learning | Institute of Life Sciences Education | Faculty of Biological Sciences | Garstang Building | University of Leeds | Leeds LS2 9JT | U.K. | Tel: +44-113-343-3142 | ___________________________________________________ | | No Education Patents | Boycott Blackboard | http://www.noedupatents.org/ | ___________________________________________________ | | | | -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Matthew Buckett | Sent: 09 February 2007 11:14 | To: Bodington developers | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | Adam Marshall wrote: | > WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's | powerlink. | | I believe PowerLinks is very similar to IMS TI which allows a user | authenticated in one WebApp to use another one and have some sort of | result passed back. | | -- | Matthew Buckett | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job | easier. | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 | _______________________________________________ | Bodington-developers mailing list | Bod...@li... | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Paul D. <pau...@ou...> - 2007-02-09 17:53:28
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Student work in general is a re-hash of other's - they have to abide by the rules, and Turnitin is ctually pretty good at spotting just a few changes. In order to get around the system the student needs to reqword his offending piece - which is what they should have done in the first place! Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Paul V Davis Acting Head, Learning Technologies Group Marketing coordinator, Bodington.org Oxford University Computing Services 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN Tel: 01865 283414 E-learning Conference Bookings now open - Shock of the Old 6; 22 March 2006; http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ Beyond the Search Engine; 23 March 2006; http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ % -----Original Message----- % From: bod...@li... % [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of % Adam Marshall % Sent: 09 February 2007 14:42 % To: a.g...@le...; 'Bodington developers' % Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in % % This use case was mentioned on Wednesday, .., and I thought much the same % thing: that students would use it to make sure their plagerised messages % pass plagerism detection. Its like when the British got hold of an Enigma % machine! % % Adam % % | -----Original Message----- % | From: bod...@li... % | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of % | Andrew Booth % | Sent: 09 February 2007 12:08 % | To: 'Bodington developers' % | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in % | % | That's fine if you want students to submit their own work and receive % | their % | own reports. Our experience is that students use this to tune their % work % | to % | defeat Turnitin. Not what we are trying to do, so we use Bodington to % | gather % | the work and then an administrator sends off the zip file. When the % | results % | return (can take a couple of days, so I wouldn't wait for a web service % | reply), the administrator alerts the module manager, who then looks at % the % | reports. % | % | ___________________________________________________ % | % | Andrew G Booth % | Professor of Online Learning % | Institute of Life Sciences Education % | Faculty of Biological Sciences % | Garstang Building % | University of Leeds % | Leeds LS2 9JT % | U.K. % | Tel: +44-113-343-3142 % | ___________________________________________________ % | % | No Education Patents % | Boycott Blackboard % | http://www.noedupatents.org/ % | ___________________________________________________ % | % | % | % | -----Original Message----- % | From: bod...@li... % | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of % | Matthew Buckett % | Sent: 09 February 2007 11:14 % | To: Bodington developers % | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in % | % | Adam Marshall wrote: % | > WebCT / Bb claim to be integrated with turn it in. eg, WebCT's % | powerlink. % | % | I believe PowerLinks is very similar to IMS TI which allows a user % | authenticated in one WebApp to use another one and have some sort of % | result passed back. % | % | -- % | Matthew Buckett % | % | % | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ % - % | Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, % security? % | Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job % | easier. % | Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache % Geronimo % | http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 % | _______________________________________________ % | Bodington-developers mailing list % | Bod...@li... % | https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers % % % % ------------------------------------------------------------------------- % Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? % Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job % easier. % Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo % http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 % _______________________________________________ % Bodington-developers mailing list % Bod...@li... % https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers |
From: Sean M. <se...@sm...> - 2007-02-07 17:40:26
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any chance of getting the howto, however brief, up on bod.org? On 7 Feb 2007, at 15:00, Andrew Booth wrote: > We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. They > have to > remove any graphics. > > The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and exported > in zip > file. > This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. > > The zip file is then uploaded to www.submit.ac.uk, the JISC > Turnitin site. > > For each student you get an 'originality report' with the > plagiarised stuff > marked up in colour and an indication of where it was plagiarised > from. > > We have standard procedures to decide whether a case is worth > pursuing, and > what happens next. > > Aggie > > ____________________________________________ > Andrew G Booth > Professor of Online Learning > Institute of Life Sciences Education > Faculty of Biological Sciences > Garstang Building > University of Leeds > Leeds LS2 9JT > U.K. > Tel: +44-113-343-3142 > ____________________________________________ > > No Education Patents > Boycott Blackboard > http://www.noedupatents.org/ > ____________________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: bod...@li... > [mailto:bod...@li...] On > Behalf Of > Adam Marshall > Sent: 07 February 2007 14:04 > To: 'Bodington developers' > Subject: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in > > Aggie (mainly) > > What integration did you do with the plagiarism detection service > Turn It > In? Oxford is now interested. > > Adam > > -- > Adam Marshall - OUCS > > E-learning Conferences. Book online > Shock of the Old 6, March 22nd - > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/shock2007/ > Beyond the Search Engine, March 23rd - > http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ltg/events/beyond2007/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier. > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier. > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Bodington-developers mailing list > Bod...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bodington-developers > |
From: Adam M. <ada...@ou...> - 2007-03-07 17:52:28
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| -----Original Message----- | From: bod...@li... | [mailto:bod...@li...] On Behalf Of | Andrew Booth | Sent: 07 February 2007 15:00 | To: 'Bodington developers' | Cc: Andrew Booth | Subject: Re: [Bodington-developers] plagerism detection / turn it in | | We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. They have to | remove any graphics. | | The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and exported in zip | file. | This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. So you are saying that the code for this is in Bod HEAD and has been since 2.8 - or is it just in Leeds' v2.8? |
From: Peter C. <Pet...@me...> - 2007-03-08 09:13:53
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> From: Adam Marshall > | From: Andrew Booth > | We tell the students to upload their work to a pigeonhole. =20 > They have to > | remove any graphics. > |=20 > | The files are then renamed to the students' usernames and=20 > exported in zip > | file. > | This is done automatically in Bodington 2.8. >=20 > So you are saying that the code for this is in Bod HEAD and=20 > has been since 2.8 - or is it just in Leeds' v2.8? It's in HEAD. Look in PigeonHoleFacility.java for "sendZippedEntries" and "uploadZipFile". - Peter |