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RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Sir M. <obe...@ho...>]

Aloha Jixt,

>This is my first mail (test test...).
To answer this with a quote of one of Belgium's most famous comedians 
"ikels...ikels" :D

>I've followed the developing of the BeMSN project since the beginning. I 
>thought I already send a >mail to one of you to ask if the project was 
>still alive and that I wanted to help with the >development. The reason why 
>I want to help is because I like MSN and many of us here in >Belgium use 
>it. Some years ago I've started to create a BeMSN myself, but I could not 
>finish it >because of a lack of time. Now I see you are busy with BeMSN and 
>because I do not >like 'reinventing the weel' and 'double work', I want to 
>help you.
I agree with you here...double work is something the beOS community is good 
in ;) So you already did some work on an MSN client....is there some code we 
would be able to re-use in this project? Btw you must know we want to make 
this messenger the Be way, not mimic the windoze MSN, but trying to surpass 
it...especially in user friendliness....

>I can say that I am good in c++( I love it!!) and I like solving difficult 
>problems ;). Maybe some of >you know I am the creator of the BeDiGiCam, so 
>that is the experience I have in developing in ?>BeOs. I can say that I'm 
>not new in developing applications under BeOs.
I know the app, doesn't work with my Fuji Finipix sad enough...good in c++ 
is nice...I am only starting to get the hang of it...

>What I want to do for BeMSN deppends on what you give me ;). I want to 
>change the >preferences screen, but if there are some other things that are 
>more urgent, then I'd like to >develop them for you. So tell me what I have 
>to do and I will create it with pleasure! I don't know >how we are going to 
>do it with the CVS-access and all stuff around, but we can discuss that 
> >later ;)
Preferences view and the way preferences(like login) are handled have to be 
changed indeed, so it's an area we need some work in....but we also have to 
discuss how we want to handle preferences(a Handler for example?)...The 
login preferences are saved with the entire window that represents them, so 
they need a lot of work.... one problem though is that we don't have too 
much features for preferences...so does anyone know another job for 
Jixt...the UI also needs a lot of work...and I think maybe Daniel would like 
some assistance on the protocol side, am I right about that...cvs access 
won't be a problem, we can arrange that soon enough...

regards,

Tim(aka Sir Mik)

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Re: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Sir M. <obe...@ho...>]

Hi,

wow a lot of traffic on the bme list :D...I mostly agree with 
Simon...probably because we discussed much of how we should implement Bme 
before we even joined Daniel. By not mimicing the Windows MSN I meant not 
mimicing the UI...I do want as most protocol features as possible in our 
program, only provide them in another way like Simon said already.

>Looks very nice the mockups ;) (I've watched the bmeMockup.png also :p). If 
>you tell me who is doing what, then I know what I don't have to do. Once I 
>know that, I can tell you what I want/may do. I thought I could change the 
>logging in way(GUI) and preferences....
>
right now Daniel is doing p2p and file transfer, I am working on the User 
pic view, Simon was improving my click and change name view. The logging in 
needs work I agree, so you could start on that....but! I thought of another 
thing you might do! hotmail integration, ie making the view with the mail 
pic(I believe 29.jpg in the emoticons folder) with the No new mail messages 
that pops up a hotmail window when clicked...that's kinda loosely coupled 
with what we are doing....but so is the login view....and I do agree about 
having that in the MainWindow...btw shouldn't we also support the logging in 
of multiple users?

The preferences can be worked on, but the problem is, we haven't much to 
preference...so maybe leave that till we have more features implemented...

Also you should know about some coding guidelines we're currently adapting:
-every class should go in a separate header and a source file(within the 
reasonable)
-we will use the javadoc standard to comment the code, the javadoc goes into 
the header
- I prefer the:
   void method()
    {
     }
   bracketing style above the :
    void method() {
     }
     style...because you can more clearly see what bracket belongs to the 
other one...but that is a personal preference....Daniel uses the second 
style, so choose the one you prefer....

well I think that was about it...btw read about the svg lib today at 
iscomputeron.com....maybe we could use that also to get ourselves an even 
better looking app...

Mik

P.s. the Flemish Comedian I mentioned was of course Urbanus :D

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[bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Hector D. G. <al7...@ma...>]

Hello Bme developers!  I'm sorry it took me so long to reply. I have some=

catching up to do. 

I see a new developer has joined the team, Jixt. I'd like to welcome you
to the team ... =3D). I can see from your emails that you are a really ex=
perienced
developer (at least more than me.. jeje). 

I'm very happy that a little personal proyect has gotten this big, and th=
at
you people are helping out to have the best MSN messenger for BeOS we cou=
ld
ever have. I am sure we will get there.

The only sad thing is that I am so far away from my BeOS PC. I need to ge=
t
home and contine working on file and user picts transfers. But I am stuck=

here on the US until july 2nd. 

I now you guys have been really busy both with school and Bme. I apreciat=
e
the hard work you are doing. 

Thanks a lot.

Daniel

RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Sir M. <obe...@ho...>]

Hey Daniel,

>Hello Bme developers!  I'm sorry it took me so long to reply. I have some
>catching up to do.
>
Nice to see you're still around!

>I see a new developer has joined the team, Jixt. I'd like to welcome you
>to the team ... =). I can see from your emails that you are a really 
>experienced
>developer (at least more than me.. jeje).
>
LOL, yeah we're just a bunch of amateurs :D...Haven't heard from Jixt since 
his last mails....Jixt you're still around?

>I'm very happy that a little personal proyect has gotten this big, and that
>you people are helping out to have the best MSN messenger for BeOS we could
>ever have. I am sure we will get there.
>
Yeah, hope we can speed up coding too...and release some beta's...According 
to the reactions a post of mine on bebits caused, a lot of people are 
waiting for this Messenger app. I am currently busy on improving the GUI, so 
hope you'll be surprised next time you'll get the code from cvs...also MYOB 
offered to make a ppc port of our app :D

>The only sad thing is that I am so far away from my BeOS PC. I need to get
>home and contine working on file and user picts transfers. But I am stuck
>here on the US until july 2nd.
>
well luckily July 2nd isn't too far away....I will continue on the GUI and 
if that's somewhat improved, I will have a look at the protocol code with 
the file and user picts transfers...so we can work on that together once you 
get back.

>I now you guys have been really busy both with school and Bme. I apreciate
>the hard work you are doing.
>
Thanks, but you are still the guy that wrote the most code ;)....Hope this 
will become one of those smashing BeOS apps like for example Wonderbrush

regards,

Tim

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RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Jixt <ji...@li...>]

Hi all!


> LOL, yeah we're just a bunch of amateurs :D...Haven't heard from Jixt 
> since 
> his last mails....Jixt you're still around?
> 

I am still alive and kicking. I am now busy with my own BeDiGiCam 
project and I'm trying to understand and use the BeOs API for the full 
100%, together with the treading. Threading could be very usefull in 
some parts of the bme code ;)

I am also trying to understand the bme-code before I change something. 
I don't want to start programming if I don't know how your way of 
programming is... When I'm ready you will hear from me ;). 

Could someone give acces to the CVS? So I can do some little check-ins 
;)

greets
    Jixt

RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Simon T. <sim...@ga...>]

> Hi all!

Hi Jixt!
 
> 
> > LOL, yeah we're just a bunch of amateurs :D...Haven't heard from Jixt 
> > since 
> > his last mails....Jixt you're still around?
> > 
> 
> I am still alive and kicking. I am now busy with my own BeDiGiCam 
> project and I'm trying to understand and use the BeOs API for the full 
> 100%, together with the treading. Threading could be very usefull in 
> some parts of the bme code ;)

Bme is already quite heavily threaded - each server session has
it's only handler (so one thread there) and a seperate receive
thread. Windows obviously have their own threads too.
 
> I am also trying to understand the bme-code before I change something. 
> I don't want to start programming if I don't know how your way of 
> programming is... When I'm ready you will hear from me ;). 

OK, cool.
 
> Could someone give acces to the CVS? So I can do some little check-ins 
> ;)

What kind of thing were you thinking of commiting? Give me your
sourceforge.net id and I'll probably give you access (depending
on the answer to the question!)


Simon
 
> greets
>     Jixt
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RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Sir M. <obe...@ho...>]

Hi Guys!

> > I am still alive and kicking. I am now busy with my own BeDiGiCam
> > project and I'm trying to understand and use the BeOs API for the full
> > 100%, together with the treading. Threading could be very usefull in
> > some parts of the bme code ;)
>
>Bme is already quite heavily threaded - each server session has
>it's only handler (so one thread there) and a seperate receive
>thread. Windows obviously have their own threads too.
>
Ah ok, will have a look at Begasus' page for a screenshot :D....my cam 
doesn't use ptp, but works now with the new USB_SCSI add-on...anyway keep up 
the good work Jixt! And yes we use multi-threading heavily...that's why the 
stability of the app improved as well :D...that's our main aim btw, make 
use, as much as possible, of the features provided by Be!

> > I am also trying to understand the bme-code before I change something.
> > I don't want to start programming if I don't know how your way of
> > programming is... When I'm ready you will hear from me ;).
>
>OK, cool.
>
Ah ok, when you start programming something please let us know, so we won't 
be duplicating work....

> > Could someone give acces to the CVS? So I can do some little check-ins
> > ;)
>
>What kind of thing were you thinking of commiting? Give me your
>sourceforge.net id and I'll probably give you access (depending
>on the answer to the question!)
>
Also check out the latest cvs version first....maybe I did fix some of the 
bugs or added the little features you're pointing at! Btw, added real time 
mail notification today! (and a mail view) Will upload it into cvs as soon 
as possible!

regards,

Tim

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RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member

[Sir M. <obe...@ho...>]

Hi guys,

just added most of the hotmail integration to Bme....it displays the number 
of mails in your mailbox correctly now....still working on opening hotmail 
in a browser, so go and check cvs :D

regards,

Tim


>From: "Simon Taylor" <sim...@ga...>
>Reply-To: bme...@li...
>To: "Bme dev" <bme...@li...>
>Subject: RE: [bme-develop] Re: Possible new project member
>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 10:42:33 GMT
>
>
> > Hi all!
>
>Hi Jixt!
>
> >
> > > LOL, yeah we're just a bunch of amateurs :D...Haven't heard from Jixt
> > > since
> > > his last mails....Jixt you're still around?
> > >
> >
> > I am still alive and kicking. I am now busy with my own BeDiGiCam
> > project and I'm trying to understand and use the BeOs API for the full
> > 100%, together with the treading. Threading could be very usefull in
> > some parts of the bme code ;)
>
>Bme is already quite heavily threaded - each server session has
>it's only handler (so one thread there) and a seperate receive
>thread. Windows obviously have their own threads too.
>
> > I am also trying to understand the bme-code before I change something.
> > I don't want to start programming if I don't know how your way of
> > programming is... When I'm ready you will hear from me ;).
>
>OK, cool.
>
> > Could someone give acces to the CVS? So I can do some little check-ins
> > ;)
>
>What kind of thing were you thinking of commiting? Give me your
>sourceforge.net id and I'll probably give you access (depending
>on the answer to the question!)
>
>
>Simon
>
> > greets
> >     Jixt
> >
> >
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