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[Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[greg c. <gre...@ya...>]

Here is a problems that lgvx4500 users are
experiencing with bitpim...

thanks
greg





Yup got it too. Guess we need to report it to LG
somehow via website or phone.
Thanks, Peter
--- Brusters <bru...@ad...> wrote:
> I too have the same problem when cycling thru the
> wallpapers, except that
> each graphic does not show up on the phone display.
> If I select the graphic
> as the wallpaper to use, then it is displayed
> properly when I exit the menu.
> Does anyone else have the problem of not seeing the
> graphic when scrolling
> thru the list (hitting OK to view)?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Barreto [mailto:pba...@al...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 11:15 AM
> To: LGV...@ya...
> Subject: RE: [LGVX4500] Re: Wallpapers shutting
> phone down after I cycle
> thru them a few times.
>
> I have the same problem with only 1 wallpaper in my
> Medias; it seems to
> be a bug with the VX4500. I hope someone finds a
> solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter [mailto:pcu...@ya...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:30 PM
> To: LGV...@ya...
> Subject: [LGVX4500] Re: Wallpapers shutting phone
> down after I cycle
> thru them a few times.
>
> Author of above message...
>
> I deleted all my 8 wallpapers and then uploaded just
> one.
> I then kept displaying (clicking center button and
> then clear) the
> same one about 5 times. Eventually the phone did
> show a white screen
> and shut down. Tried another picture same thing.
>
> Did not have this problem before when I used a
> previous version of
> BITPIM with VX4400 specified and the FileSystem but
> I serously doubt
> it is the program.
>
> I also never cycled through them more than once
> until last night as a
> trial after I uploaded a few more pics.
>
> I even did a phone activation *228 update but this
> did not help.
>
> At one time I thought the pictures must be in alpha
> order but this is
> not the case either. Tried that.
>
> The second time I uploaded them I used the
> FileSystem as opposed to
> the Wallpaper tab. Same result of shutting down
> after a few showings
> of same or cycling through pictures.
>
> I now have one pic in the phone and after a few
> viewings I get white
> screen and then a shut down if I try again.
>
> If someone can try this on their phone I would
> appreciate it.
>
> Thanks, Peter
> pcu...@ya...
>
>
> --- In LGV...@ya..., "Peter"
> <pcumming@y...> wrote:
> > Wallpapers shutting phone down after I cycle thru
> them a few
> >
> > I uploaded quite a few ringers and all worked
> fine. (LG VX-4500).
> > Even a few mp3's (renamed as MID). Today I
> uploaded a few more for
> a
> > total of about 15.
> >
> > WALLPAPERS
> > I added a few more bmp wallpapers with dimensions
> no greater than
> > 120x131.
> > When I cycle thru them (press center button and
> then right button)
> I
> > see them all.
> >
> > PROBLEM
> > However if I continue to press the right button to
> cycle a few more
> > times (about 3), eventually I get a blank picture
> (of the 4 I
> > uploaded), then the phone shuts off.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> >
> > Thanks, Peter
> > pcumming@y...


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Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Roger B. <ro...@ro...>]

greg cunningham wrote:
> Here is a problems that lgvx4500 users are
> experiencing with bitpim...

The VX4500 code is incomplete.  I have never even seen one.
A reminder from the home page:
 
  This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but 
  WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of 
  MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General 
  Public License for more details.

 There are no warranties as stated above (ie this software may damage your 
 phone). This software is in no way associated with Audiovox, LG Electronics, 
 Qualcomm, Sanyo, Sprint or Verizon Wireless. It has not been certified or 
 endorsed by them, nor was it written using information directly supplied 
 by them.

The phones like to store variants of the same information in multiple
locations.  It is quite likely this could be the cause with BitPim
only updating one of the locations.  There is however nothing I can do
about it.  I have never seen one of these phones, nor have access to one
so I can't try and troubleshoot what it going on.

Roger

Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Roger B. <ro...@ro...>]

I neglected to point out that you can't report this as a bug to
LG unless you can reproduce the problem on phones that have never
been touched by BitPim.  They do not run a general purpose operating
system, more like a bunch of hacks stuck together, with seemingly
random formats for files and data and methods for operating on 
them.  There is no documentation either for the kind of thing
BitPim does.

Roger

Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[greg c. <gre...@ya...>]

I in now way meant to imply blame for this problem....
I know that you have worked hard to make this program
as good as it is now.... (it works fine for me)  I was
just trying to relay problems that other users have
had with the 4500 and bitpim so the developers would
be aware of the situation.  I am hoping that I can get
several lgvx4500 group members to volenteer to work
with you in developing the software.  

As far as talking to verizon or lg about bitpim... Im
not that stupid... I suspect that they would just mark
my file as voided warentee and tell me Im sol. 

thank you again for your work on this program.

thanks
greg

--- Roger Binns <ro...@ro...> wrote:
> greg cunningham wrote:
> > Here is a problems that lgvx4500 users are
> > experiencing with bitpim...
> 
> The VX4500 code is incomplete.  I have never even
> seen one.
> A reminder from the home page:
>  
>   This program is distributed in the hope that it
> will be useful, but 
>   WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied
> warranty of 
>   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> PURPOSE. See the GNU General 
>   Public License for more details.
> 
>  There are no warranties as stated above (ie this
> software may damage your 
>  phone). This software is in no way associated with
> Audiovox, LG Electronics, 
>  Qualcomm, Sanyo, Sprint or Verizon Wireless. It has
> not been certified or 
>  endorsed by them, nor was it written using
> information directly supplied 
>  by them.
> 
> The phones like to store variants of the same
> information in multiple
> locations.  It is quite likely this could be the
> cause with BitPim
> only updating one of the locations.  There is
> however nothing I can do
> about it.  I have never seen one of these phones,
> nor have access to one
> so I can't try and troubleshoot what it going on.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
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Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Roger B. <ro...@ro...>]

greg cunningham wrote:
> I in now way meant to imply blame for this problem....

I wasn't taking it as blame.  I am just trying to point
out that the code is incomplete, and I have no idea
how incomplete.  Telling us that there are issues because
it is incomplete doesn't really get us anywhere, since
we can't even try to help to tell you where it is incomplete.

> I am hoping that I can get
> several lgvx4500 group members to volenteer to work
> with you in developing the software.

Now they should be able to figure out where the issue is.
Generally the course of action is to use a different
program or a GIN program to update something, and then
compare before and after snapshots of the filesystem.
Once there are several examples of what changes, it becomes
easier to figure out how it changes, and then that makes
actual code easy to write.  The coding is not the hard
part of BitPim - it is figuring out what should happen
that is, and if you figure that out someone else can code 
it.

Roger

Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[greg c. <gre...@ya...>]

I know your time is limited.  I was wondering... If I
can get a phone distributor to donate a vx4500 (at
least for a short period) for the bitpim cause would
you have the time to work with this phone.  

greg



--- Roger Binns <ro...@ro...> wrote:
> greg cunningham wrote:
> > I in now way meant to imply blame for this
> problem....
> 
> I wasn't taking it as blame.  I am just trying to
> point
> out that the code is incomplete, and I have no idea
> how incomplete.  Telling us that there are issues
> because
> it is incomplete doesn't really get us anywhere,
> since
> we can't even try to help to tell you where it is
> incomplete.
> 
> > I am hoping that I can get
> > several lgvx4500 group members to volenteer to
> work
> > with you in developing the software.
> 
> Now they should be able to figure out where the
> issue is.
> Generally the course of action is to use a different
> program or a GIN program to update something, and
> then
> compare before and after snapshots of the
> filesystem.
> Once there are several examples of what changes, it
> becomes
> easier to figure out how it changes, and then that
> makes
> actual code easy to write.  The coding is not the
> hard
> part of BitPim - it is figuring out what should
> happen
> that is, and if you figure that out someone else can
> code 
> it.
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Roger B. <ro...@ro...>]

greg cunningham wrote:
> I know your time is limited.  I was wondering... If I
> can get a phone distributor to donate a vx4500 (at
> least for a short period) for the bitpim cause would
> you have the time to work with this phone.

Yes, if one is loaned to me then I will spend some time on
it.  Generally I need the phone for quite a long period as
it takes a while to work through all the issues (3 months).

Roger

Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Tom P. <mlp...@ea...>]

Hi,

I am greatly looking forward to pitching in with bitpim and with 
improving its support for my recently purchased vx4500, but I still 
haven't picked up a cable.  I've tried to ask on the bitpim-user list 
for recommendations of vx4500-compatible data cables that work for 
MacOS X users, but have received no response. (I contacted RPI 
Wireless, too.)

I know there were a couple of early reports the vx6000 serial-USB 
cables worked, but I couldn't tell if those reports were made by MacOS 
X users; also, there are a couple of cables marketted as vx4500 cables 
now; also, I had the impression that for the vx6000 (and I assume for 
the later vx4500 as well) that straight USB cables are might now be 
preferable.

TomP

On Mar 7, 2004, at 2:37 AM, greg cunningham wrote:
> I in now way meant to imply blame for this problem....
> I know that you have worked hard to make this program
> as good as it is now.... (it works fine for me)  I was
> just trying to relay problems that other users have
> had with the 4500 and bitpim so the developers would
> be aware of the situation.  I am hoping that I can get
> several lgvx4500 group members to volenteer to work
> with you in developing the software.

Re: [Bitpim-devel] problems with the lgvx4500

[Roger B. <ro...@ro...>]

> now; also, I had the impression that for the vx6000 (and I assume for
> the later vx4500 as well) that straight USB cables are might now be
> preferable.

Yes, if you can use a straight USB cable then do so.  The ONLY exception
is the LG VX4400 where you should not use that kind of cable.

I have also seen many reports that the VX6000 cables do work.  I would
suggest just ordering one from a place that claims they work.

Roger