RE: Re (PRODUCTION!): [binarycloud-dev] ANT vs. MAKE

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Hi Dave,

>> >I'm a new user and maybe out of line here but...
>> You are not! :-)
>Well........ New to BC!

But not out of line (if i've understood the term right in sense of "my
opinion does not matter", i'm not a native speaker).


>Got that already in PHP ;^) If I could ever get Sablotron
>to work I'm not sure I would need/want *.jsp.
That was ironic a ironic remark. But what sablot concerns, what does not
work with your setup ?


>> That's a point. On the other hand you need a working
>> make and all related tools. The advantage here is that
>> we can provide jre and a env setting script with bc.
>> And if everything is packaged and configured well, you don't
>> need to install something optional.

>Yes, but that was already installed and in use for the
>multitude of other tools/apps I have/will install. Agreed you
>could package everything together, but that moots the point of
>moving to ANT so developers can move
>on with other BC things. I don't want them to get tied up
>developing an ANT package installer under the assumption
>it will save time over developing a PHP based installer.

Of course, complete PHP based make would be really killer. I personally
preffer that much over all other options.

>>
>> >Not real sure I would want to learn Java in order to use PHP ;^)
>> No, no. You don't need to know anything about coding in java or something
>> like that, as well as you don't have to know make/autoconf stuff
>to make bc
>> or other projects now. They only think you have to do is edit
>MakeConf.xml.

>Well, maybe. I've had to dive into make files many times,
>and I've helped newbies around some problems with installing
>software before as well. You can't say you will *never* have to
>use/edit/write Java to have an ANT install package.

Really? As i said before, I don't know ant very much. Do you have experience
with it? Can you give a example when ant needs to be extended with java
code?


>> Of course, in this case, jre and and would be provided by bc (i.e.
>> binarycloud/make/jre/win32|linx|sparc).
>And BSD and Mac OSX and Darwin and AIX and .......?

Hmm.


>Of course I am not as informed as to why PHP is during
>the install as I've just started looking at the cvs tree
>I have. But I'm real curious, had to drag out the PHP
>sources again to build a cgi version, just to install BC.

Don't understand what you mean. Are you reffering compilation of php
binaries or something bc specific?

Andi