Re: Re (PRODUCTION!): [binarycloud-dev] ANT vs. MAKE

[<bin...@li...>]

On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 06:53:33PM +0200, bin...@li... wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> >I'm a new user and maybe out of line here but...
>
> You are not! :-)
Well........ New to BC!
> 
> >I've just finished the install dance for Java to test Tomcat.
> Huh.. gratulations. No you've got a damned fast server side language ;->
Got that already in PHP ;^) If I could ever get Sablotron to work I'm not
sure I would need/want *.jsp.
> 
> >Install, upgrade, join mail list to fix problems not covered
> >in docs. Took a few days.
> 
> hehe.. hmm sounds familiar to me :(
> 
> 
> >I for one would not want to require Java to complete an
> >install of a product that did not require Java in it's
> >operation.
> 
> That's a point. On the other hand you need a working make and all related
> tools. The advantage here is that we can provide jre and a env setting
> script with bc. And if everything is packaged and configured well, you don't
> need to install something optional.
>
Yes, but that was already installed and in use for the multitude of other
tools/apps I have/will install. Agreed you could package everything
together, but that moots the point of moving to ANT so developers can move
on with other BC things. I don't want them to get tied up developing an
ANT package installer under the assumption it will save time over
developing a PHP based installer.
> 
> >Not real sure I would want to learn Java in order to use PHP ;^)
> No, no. You don't need to know anything about coding in java or something
> like that, as well as you don't have to know make/autoconf stuff to make bc
> or other projects now. They only think you have to do is edit MakeConf.xml.
Well, maybe. I've had to dive into make files many times, and I've helped
newbies around some problems with installing software before as well. You
can't say you will *never* have to use/edit/write Java to have an ANT
install package.
> 
> >Thats one more thing to install, upgrade, track, on each
> >production box I may use BC on.
> 
> Of course, in this case, jre and and would be provided by bc (i.e.
> binarycloud/make/jre/win32|linx|sparc).
And BSD and Mac OSX and Darwin and AIX and .......?

Of course I am not as informed as to why PHP is during the install as I've
just started looking at the cvs tree I have. But I'm real curious, had to
drag out the PHP sources again to build a cgi version, just to install BC.

DAve
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