Re: [binarycloud-dev] capwiz

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> Justin Farnsworth schrieb:
>> Oeeewah, you are stirring my ingrained paranoia.  When I first
>> started looking at BC, I thought, this Mother is
>> really going to be slow, with all those file operations,
>> certainly one per module.  And the way I like to write
>> tiny modules, I thought, ungh.
>> 
>> So I am curious about your experience with speed
>> and BC.  Is there any data, even anecdotal, relative,
>> to the other CMS/YATS/platforms?
> 
> I really wanted to use common lisp or mod_perl (mason,embperl or axkit)
> for my big e-commerce site i'm working on, but they cannot afford
> server hosting for the beginning, so I cannot use mod_perl (nor
> lisp/zope/jsp), 
> only php.

heh.

have you used jsp in production?

> ok, for PHP I found these two best: BS and ariadne
> BC has the best layout so far. and a lot of useful admin modules.
> and I don't like Ariadne's interface that much. BC already has more modules
> and 
> a similar structure.
> only that BC is really slow compared to my phpwiki,
> which serves the pages from mysql with a lot of dynamic pcre translations,
> and compared to ariadne which uses a clever caching scheme
> (precalculated object inheritance and stored static pages).

Of course it is!

That's like comparing:

echo "hello, world";

to the entire contents of PHPLIB!

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My render target for non-auth pages is ~10th of a second. With caching we
can cut that by a fifth for 'static' pages.

it is underalistic to expect that binarycloud will have the same performance
as a simple, small application like PHPWiki.

I like phpWiki, but one would use its functionality within a module, not do
a comparison of the two systems.

when was the last time you comparison shopped for a car, and compared it to
a bicycle? If your only requirement for a vehicle is that you can get it on
the subway, then of course the bike wins. But if you want to do 60 with air
conditioning, a cd playing, three passengers and a horn - you need a car.

> ariadne has a very sexy DHTML htmleditor included (IE only) which might
> be a good seller for getting advanced users attracted, instead of bc's
> features 
> which certainly gets admins attracted :)

Actually, I have posted a "very sexy" dhtml editor to this list, which will
likely be integrated into a CMS module.

It allows visual editing of fairly complex documents, and html source.


best,

_alex


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