binarycloud-general

[binarycloud-general] binarycloud make system

[Jason H. <jc...@ey...>]

this is a general question, but one that has lingered with me from the
beginning.

what exactly is the desired procedure for creating sites under
binarycloud with regard to the make system?

(this of course applies to the future state of BC rather than now)

for example, say i have installed binarycloud in /usr/local/binarycloud,
and i have a few modules installed in /usr/local/binarycloud/user/mod,
etc etc.

now, to create a NEW site, what is the process?

i imagine it's something like this...
- i define several XML files to specify pageDefs, dataSources,
entityDefs, etc etc.
- i run 'make site' or equivalent,
- i copy the build dir to a place to be served by apache
- customize/expand my pages, do extra stuff, post-install stuff here


the need for multiple make targets seems apparent here, though
non-existant at the moment.  alex, could you help enlighten us?

jason

Re: [binarycloud-general] binarycloud make system

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> 
> 
> this is a general question, but one that has lingered with me from the
> beginning.
> 
> what exactly is the desired procedure for creating sites under
> binarycloud with regard to the make system?
> 
> (this of course applies to the future state of BC rather than now)
> 
> for example, say i have installed binarycloud in /usr/local/binarycloud,
> and i have a few modules installed in /usr/local/binarycloud/user/mod,
> etc etc.
> 
> now, to create a NEW site, what is the process?
> 
> i imagine it's something like this...
> - i define several XML files to specify pageDefs, dataSources,
> entityDefs, etc etc.
> - i run 'make site' or equivalent,
> - i copy the build dir to a place to be served by apache
> - customize/expand my pages, do extra stuff, post-install stuff here

since you asked for the "future state"

no:

the way we're going to di it is allow for "multi-site" makes under the user
tree.

so you'll have:

user/default/stuff (the binarycloud distro files)
user/my_site/stuff
user/my_other_site/stuff

that's in the TODO: multi-dite makes.

> the need for multiple make targets seems apparent here, though
> non-existant at the moment.  alex, could you help enlighten us?

And you hit the nail on the head: we had a big discussion about this a while
ago, and we all agreed: multiple make targets.

-a

[binarycloud-general] Status?

[Jimmy H. <ji...@ha...>]

Hi,

I haven't been looking at binary cloud for about two months now.... I
wonder what's the status now, what's ready and what's not ?

Cheers
Jimmy

Re: [binarycloud-general] Status?

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> Hi,
> 
> I haven't been looking at binary cloud for about two months now.... I
> wonder what's the status now, what's ready and what's not ?
> 
> Cheers
> Jimmy

hi Jimmy,

the page render pipeline is done, QueryManager is functional.
we're building some advanced make tools (that is, andi is building them) for
parsing 'binarycloud tags' which will be used for everything from calling
modules, to keying in language strings.

after this round of make stuff is complete, I expect we'll dive full on into
the EntityManager, and some of its related classes.

after that, builders (for generating forms and tables for/from entity record
sets) and some miscellany, and we'll release r2 beta.

Note that the code that works, works. I'm trying to make sure that as each
piece is released, it's solid. Suffice it to say that if you need
querymanager or Page, you're using production code.

We could always use extra hands for tasks, I'm working through specs for a
number of tasks for BC that I'll release in the coming week.

best,

_alex

Re: [binarycloud-general] Status?

[jason <ja...@gr...>]

Just wanted to point out / ask about the multi-site Makefile building. 
This seems so fundamental, I would think it would be nice to have this
functional before the managers.  What is the status on this?

> > I haven't been looking at binary cloud for about two months now.... I
> > wonder what's the status now, what's ready and what's not ?

> the page render pipeline is done, QueryManager is functional.
> we're building some advanced make tools (that is, andi is building them) for
> parsing 'binarycloud tags' which will be used for everything from calling
> modules, to keying in language strings.
> 
> after this round of make stuff is complete, I expect we'll dive full on into
> the EntityManager, and some of its related classes.
> 
> after that, builders (for generating forms and tables for/from entity record
> sets) and some miscellany, and we'll release r2 beta.

Re: [binarycloud-general] Status?

[alex b. <en...@tu...>]

> Just wanted to point out / ask about the multi-site Makefile building.
> This seems so fundamental, I would think it would be nice to have this
> functional before the managers.  What is the status on this?

It's going to happen next. Multi site makes will be finished right after the
tag parsing stuff.

want to help? :)

_a

> > > I haven't been looking at binary cloud for about two months now.... I
> > > wonder what's the status now, what's ready and what's not ?
>
> > the page render pipeline is done, QueryManager is functional.
> > we're building some advanced make tools (that is, andi is building them)
for
> > parsing 'binarycloud tags' which will be used for everything from
calling
> > modules, to keying in language strings.
> >
> > after this round of make stuff is complete, I expect we'll dive full on
into
> > the EntityManager, and some of its related classes.
> >
> > after that, builders (for generating forms and tables for/from entity
record
> > sets) and some miscellany, and we'll release r2 beta.
>
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Re: [binarycloud-general] Status?

[jason <ja...@gr...>]

Actually, this is why I asked..  Justin and I have been following
intently, sorta waiting for a moment to help.  It would seem at this
point that the best way to involve developers is with a very descriptive
task/todo list.  I'll research this a bit Monday.


> > Just wanted to point out / ask about the multi-site Makefile building.
> > This seems so fundamental, I would think it would be nice to have this
> > functional before the managers.  What is the status on this?
> 
> It's going to happen next. Multi site makes will be finished right after the
> tag parsing stuff.
> 
> want to help? :)

Re: [binarycloud-general] Status?

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> 
> Actually, this is why I asked..  Justin and I have been following
> intently, sorta waiting for a moment to help.  It would seem at this
> point that the best way to involve developers is with a very descriptive
> task/todo list.  I'll research this a bit Monday.

That is exactly what I'm doing, i saw that need too :)

That spec is in my queue, I'll move it up to the "top of the list" and check
it into CVS (today, if possible)

I've also got a 'roadmap' going for EntityManager stuff that I'm going to
write up and send to the list.

best,

_alex