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[binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

hi all,

http://www.binarycloud.com/download/

for your downloading pleasure.

This is r2, with make and the second revision of Page.

have at it :)


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Re: [binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Angel H. <an...@ho...>]

Urghhh... I feel lame asking this question. BUT what does one need to do in
order to get a basic install. I tried going into the binarycloud dir and
typing "make", but the errors seem to imply I need to do more than that ;-)

Also, does anyone have any good references to URLs, etc that explain
Makefiles and how to use them - especially in a context as it may apply to
r2.

As you can probably tell, I don't really understand r2 yet (or anything that
deals with make), but I'm convinced it's really worth learning. So any help,
pointers, etc would be most appreciated. Thanks!

-- Angel


on 6/28/01 5:25 PM, Alex Black at en...@tu... wrote:

> hi all,
> 
> http://www.binarycloud.com/download/
> 
> for your downloading pleasure.
> 
> This is r2, with make and the second revision of Page.
> 
> have at it :)
> 
> 
> --
> alex black, ceo
> en...@tu...
> 
> the turing studio, inc.
> http://www.turingstudio.com
> 
> vox+510.666.0074
> fax+510.666.0093
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> bin...@li...
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Re: [binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Angel H. <an...@ho...>]

Angel, try setting the path to BCHOME before typing make. Don't you love it
when the obvious stares you in the face?

-- Me



on 6/28/01 6:39 PM, Angel Hernandez at an...@ho... wrote:

> 
> Urghhh... I feel lame asking this question. BUT what does one need to do in
> order to get a basic install. I tried going into the binarycloud dir and
> typing "make", but the errors seem to imply I need to do more than that ;-)
> 
> Also, does anyone have any good references to URLs, etc that explain
> Makefiles and how to use them - especially in a context as it may apply to
> r2.
> 
> As you can probably tell, I don't really understand r2 yet (or anything that
> deals with make), but I'm convinced it's really worth learning. So any help,
> pointers, etc would be most appreciated. Thanks!
> 
> -- Angel
>

Re: [binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> Urghhh... I feel lame asking this question. BUT what does one need to do in
> order to get a basic install. I tried going into the binarycloud dir and
> typing "make", but the errors seem to imply I need to do more than that ;-)

I meant to post earlier this morning... :)

You need these two variables in your ENV:

PHPRC = path to directory with command-line php.ini

BCHOME = /path/to/binarycloud/


For example:
PHPRC=/home/alex/r2/tools/cli_php/
BCHOME=/home/alex/r2/binarycloud


You must also be able to call php -q from the command line.

> Also, does anyone have any good references to URLs, etc that explain
> Makefiles and how to use them - especially in a context as it may apply to
> r2.

Odysseas, can you recommend any reading?

> As you can probably tell, I don't really understand r2 yet (or anything that
> deals with make), but I'm convinced it's really worth learning. So any help,
> pointers, etc would be most appreciated. Thanks!

Once you have those env's set, and you know you have php command line
working, you should be fine:

cd /path/to/binarycloud/
make

:)



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Re: [binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Odysseas T. <ody...@ya...>]

> Odysseas, can you recommend any reading?
> 

A friend of mine here is using the "Managing Projects
with Make" from O'Reilly
Have check it out a couple times and it is the usual
quality that you can expect from the O'Reilly animal
books.
About $11 from fatbrain:
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0937175900&vm=

In your unix box you can get help using
info "gnu make" 
or sth similar 

Alex, we could also put the info2html cgi in some
place in the binarycloud site so as everybody can get
some help about the various utilities that we are
using.
Until then,  here is a nice fellow that has it already
up there (fround him from google).

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~jonh/info2html/info2html-demo/info2html.cgi?(make.info)Top

and

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~jonh/info2html/info2html-demo/infocat.cgi

odysseas

P.S. Keep in mind that gnu make is much more fancy
than the standard unix make


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Re: [binarycloud-dev] r2 /make

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

agreed,

though I think as soon as things are more pegged down, I'd like to take
stock of all ENV, necessary utilities in PATH, etc etc etc :)

... I will post bc_edit/2 in just a moment.

_alex

>> Odysseas, can you recommend any reading?
>> 
> 
> A friend of mine here is using the "Managing Projects
> with Make" from O'Reilly
> Have check it out a couple times and it is the usual
> quality that you can expect from the O'Reilly animal
> books.
> About $11 from fatbrain:
> http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0937175900&vm=
> 
> In your unix box you can get help using
> info "gnu make" 
> or sth similar 
> 
> Alex, we could also put the info2html cgi in some
> place in the binarycloud site so as everybody can get
> some help about the various utilities that we are
> using.
> Until then,  here is a nice fellow that has it already
> up there (fround him from google).
> 
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~jonh/info2html/info2html-demo/info2html.cgi?(make
> .info)Top
> 
> and
> 
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~jonh/info2html/info2html-demo/infocat.cgi
> 
> odysseas
> 
> P.S. Keep in mind that gnu make is much more fancy
> than the standard unix make
> 
> 
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[binarycloud-dev] RE: r2 /make

[Andreas A. <a.a...@th...>]

Cool, It works ! :-)

But I don't understand the following. After running make there is the build
dir with the language rips

r2/binarycloud/build/en/
r2/binarycloud/build/da/

thats clear to me, but there are also:

binarycloud/
htdocs/

Why that ?


Under the language rips there are:

htdocs/
user/
binarycould/

So far, so good. The second thing I don't understand is this:

en/binarycould/lib/Timer.php
en/binarycould/lib/binarycloud/lib/ClientSniffer.php

The first line seems logical. The second kinda confusing.

The bcp.xml files are also within htdoc of the language rips. Thought
they're only used for make not for 'production'!?

Andi

Re: [binarycloud-dev] RE: r2 /make

[Alex B. <en...@tu...>]

> But I don't understand the following. After running make there is the build
> dir with the language rips
> 
> r2/binarycloud/build/en/
> r2/binarycloud/build/da/
> 
> thats clear to me, but there are also:
> 
> binarycloud/
> htdocs/
> 
> Why that ?

because

/path/to/r2/binarycloud/base/*
is the source tree, it is not used in production.

if you look in build/en/binarycloud/* you'll notice that the organization is
different.

the make system does all kinds of interesting things in that regard.


> Under the language rips there are:
> 
> htdocs/
> user/
> binarycould/
> 
> So far, so good. The second thing I don't understand is this:
> 
> en/binarycould/lib/Timer.php
> en/binarycould/lib/binarycloud/lib/ClientSniffer.php

The second is a bug :)

> The first line seems logical. The second kinda confusing.
> 
> The bcp.xml files are also within htdoc of the language rips. Thought
> they're only used for make not for 'production'!?

They aren't used at all yet. Some xml2php is working, but not for page
definitions.

and you are correct, bcp.xml does not belong in the build htdocs :)

_a


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RE: [binarycloud-dev] RE: r2 /make

[Andreas A. <a.a...@th...>]

Hi Alex,

>> r2/binarycloud/build/binarycloud/
>> r2/binarycloud/build/htdocs/
>> Why that ?
> because
> /path/to/r2/binarycloud/base/*
> is the source tree, it is not used in production.
ok, thats clear

> if you look in build/en/binarycloud/* you'll notice that the organization
is
> different.
Yepp. But I don't get it right now how the build arch is handled with the
webserver config.

If I understand right the language rips are completly standalone systems.
Thats good and no problem if you have different docroots/vhosts vor each
language. e.g.

foo.com points to build/htdocs/  -> determines language and switches to
en.foo.com points to build/en/htdocs or
de.foo.com points to build/en/htdocs
etc.

but what if you want to have language switching capabilities within one site
e.g. foo.com and foo.de points to the same docroot:

foo.com -> derminte language and set internally
user switches foo.com?.lang=de

or another organization:
foo.com/de/
foo.com/en/

How is this handled within the build-tree. I only want the htdocs directory
accessible by the user. The directories above should be out ouf user scope.

Maybe this is a stupid question and I'm missing something obvious. But I
don't get it right now :-(

.andi


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[binarycloud-dev] Stripping comments in build

[Andreas A. <a.a...@th...>]

Hi,

is it planned to strip comments from the .php files within the build tree? I
think that should be done to reduce parsing time.

.andi

Re: [binarycloud-dev] Stripping comments in build

[alex b. <en...@tu...>]

I think I did some tests once, it was some unbelieveably small amount of
time..

but yes, that is certainly a possibility :)

we will also provide the option to run the make through zend encoder
automatically.

_alex



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 6:11 AM
Subject: [binarycloud-dev] Stripping comments in build


> Hi,
>
> is it planned to strip comments from the .php files within the build tree?
I
> think that should be done to reduce parsing time.
>
> .andi
>
>
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RE: [binarycloud-dev] Stripping comments in build

[Andreas A. <a.a...@th...>]

> I think I did some tests once, it was some unbelieveably small amount of
> time..
hmm. you're a speed-freak allright! ;-)

> but yes, that is certainly a possibility :)
a switch, or better:

make strip


> we will also provide the option to run the make through zend encoder
> automatically.
groovy!!

.andi

Re: [binarycloud-dev] RE: r2 /make

[alex b. <en...@tu...>]

> > if you look in build/en/binarycloud/* you'll notice that the
organization
> is
> > different.
> Yepp. But I don't get it right now how the build arch is handled with the
> webserver config.
>
> If I understand right the language rips are completly standalone systems.
> Thats good and no problem if you have different docroots/vhosts vor each
> language. e.g.
>
> foo.com points to build/htdocs/  -> determines language and switches to
> en.foo.com points to build/en/htdocs or
> de.foo.com points to build/en/htdocs
> etc.
>
> but what if you want to have language switching capabilities within one
site
> e.g. foo.com and foo.de points to the same docroot:

2 ways of dealing with that:
    -a script at docroot that abstracts the (x) 'build' htdocs for each
language
    -use a subdir:
        http://www.example.com/en/
    etc


> foo.com -> derminte language and set internally
> user switches foo.com?.lang=de
>
> or another organization:
> foo.com/de/
> foo.com/en/

right.

> How is this handled within the build-tree. I only want the htdocs
directory
> accessible by the user. The directories above should be out ouf user
scope.

And that's coming a bit later, we will very likely abstract the entire
htdocs/ tree (except resources/) so it is within the user directory.

> Maybe this is a stupid question and I'm missing something obvious. But I
> don't get it right now :-(

Make works, but the system isn't done - so there is behavior that doesn't
reflect the final state of everything.

_a

RE: [binarycloud-dev] RE: r2 /make

[Andreas A. <a.a...@th...>]

Hi Alex,

>> How is this handled within the build-tree. I only want the htdocs
>> directory accessible by the user. The directories above should be out ouf
user
>> scope.
> And that's coming a bit later, we will very likely abstract the entire
> htdocs/ tree (except resources/) so it is within the user directory.

Ah ok, now it's clear to me. Tnx

Andi