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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] is it reasonable to use the core, CBEEP.c, to embed into a scripting language?

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

What Darren said :)  You can look at the wrapper stuff to get an
idea of how to do it, the code is separated out so that the IO, 
threading and core BEEP protocol stuff are relatively independant.

Also, there is at least one bad deadlock bug in the C wrapper
on channel close, so my logic was in error there.

-bill

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:40:17AM -0800, Sam Roberts wrote:
> I know the project is dead, but I don't want the multi-threaded server
> framework, just an implementation of the core protocol, so that I can
> embed it into lua and ruby.
> 
> Both these languages are very hostile to C libraries that require use of
> O/S threads, though green threads can be built on top of multiplexed I/O
> within or above their interpreters.
> 
> This is the only BEEP implementation I've seen that claims to be useful
> in a thread-less environment, but before I waste too much time, could
> anybody confirm its in a reasonable state to use, or definitively warn
> me away from using it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sam
> 
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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] is it reasonable to use the core, CBEEP.c, to embed into a scripting language?

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] are the archives available in mbox format?

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

It hasn't been a tremendously active list.   I don't know if SourceForge
has that feature for it's mailing lists.  Ask away :)

-bill

On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 12:28:42AM -0800, Sam Roberts wrote:
> Trying to read through them on the webpage is painful, and I'd like to
> get up to speed on whats been written before pesting this list.
> 
> Sam
> 
> 

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] is it reasonable to use the core, CBEEP.c, to embed into a scripting language?

[Darren N. <dn...@sa...>]

Sam Roberts wrote:
> This is the only BEEP implementation I've seen that claims to be useful
> in a thread-less environment, but before I waste too much time, could
> anybody confirm its in a reasonable state to use, or definitively warn
> me away from using it?

There are two parts to the C libraries. One is what I called "the core", 
which does the parsing and memory management and such. A higher layer 
lets you write profile implementations that are based on threading, but 
the "core" part does everything with callbacks. It lets you queue up 
messages to a channel and lets you pull frames and messages off the channel.

If you're going to integrate BEEP into some other language with its own 
memory management, threading, etc., that's probably a decent place to start.

Alternately, look at the Tcl implementation, which does all this stuff 
without threads.  Of course, you would need to either rewrite that or 
link the Tcl interpreter into your own code, but it'll show you how to 
handle the protocol without needing threads.

-- 
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     and a three-day beard are "Sunday Best."

[Beepcore-c-users] is it reasonable to use the core, CBEEP.c, to embed into a scripting language?

[Sam R. <sro...@un...>]

I know the project is dead, but I don't want the multi-threaded server
framework, just an implementation of the core protocol, so that I can
embed it into lua and ruby.

Both these languages are very hostile to C libraries that require use of
O/S threads, though green threads can be built on top of multiplexed I/O
within or above their interpreters.

This is the only BEEP implementation I've seen that claims to be useful
in a thread-less environment, but before I waste too much time, could
anybody confirm its in a reasonable state to use, or definitively warn
me away from using it?

Thanks,
Sam

[Beepcore-c-users] are the archives available in mbox format?

[Sam R. <sro...@un...>]

Trying to read through them on the webpage is painful, and I'd like to
get up to speed on whats been written before pesting this list.

Sam

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] problem after building

[Guenther L. <gue...@ia...>]

Hi!

I fixed the problem. The Makefiles had to be adopted a bit...

thanks for your help!

regards
lackyg

William J. Mills wrote:
> I'd have to suspect an error in your config file...
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 09:12:14AM +0100, Guenther Lackner wrote:
> 
>>Hi!
>>
>>I managed to write my own profile and to build the whole stuff. It
>>workes fine on my laptop. I also built it in scratchbox in order to run
>>it on an iPAQ. It also runs fine in this environment. But after copying
>>the binaries and the libs to the iPAQ I get the following error while
>>executing "beepng".
>>
>>./beepng: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
>>
>>Does anybody have an idea why this happens?
>>
>>regards
>>lackyg
>>
>>
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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] problem after building

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

I'd have to suspect an error in your config file...


On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 09:12:14AM +0100, Guenther Lackner wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I managed to write my own profile and to build the whole stuff. It
> workes fine on my laptop. I also built it in scratchbox in order to run
> it on an iPAQ. It also runs fine in this environment. But after copying
> the binaries and the libs to the iPAQ I get the following error while
> executing "beepng".
> 
> ./beepng: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
> 
> Does anybody have an idea why this happens?
> 
> regards
> lackyg
> 
> 
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[Beepcore-c-users] problem after building

[Guenther L. <gue...@ia...>]

Hi!

I managed to write my own profile and to build the whole stuff. It
workes fine on my laptop. I also built it in scratchbox in order to run
it on an iPAQ. It also runs fine in this environment. But after copying
the binaries and the libs to the iPAQ I get the following error while
executing "beepng".

./beepng: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected

Does anybody have an idea why this happens?

regards
lackyg

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] How to start?

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

You should be able to use beepd.c with the echo/null profile and
use the beeppng program to connect and do a ping.  Hoenstly I have
not run it in a long time so the details are fuzzy.  I believe
you have to make sure you hand create a good config file that=20
will load the ECHO profile for both programs and make sure it's in=20
the current working directory.

I don't have a running instance here at work, but if you get stuck=20
drop another note and I'll figure it and get you running.

-bill


On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 12:05:33PM +0100, Guenther Lackner wrote:
> Hi!
>=20
> I want to use the sampel caled "beepd.c". What else do I need? Is there
> a simple example profile? If yes, how to start an configure this example?
>=20
> Can I use 2 instances of it to comminucate with each other?
>=20
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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] Mailing list still active?????

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

At least one still reading :)

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 10:53:50AM +0100, Guenther Lackner wrote:
> Hi!
>=20
> I just wondered if there are any active members left in this list?
>=20
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[Beepcore-c-users] Mailing list still active?????

[Guenther L. <gue...@ia...>]

Hi!

I just wondered if there are any active members left in this list?

regards
g=FCnther

[Beepcore-c-users] How to start?

[Guenther L. <gue...@ia...>]

Hi!

I want to use the sampel caled "beepd.c". What else do I need? Is there
a simple example profile? If yes, how to start an configure this example?

Can I use 2 instances of it to comminucate with each other?

best regards
g=FCnther

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] IPV6 support for Beepcore-C

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

Now that's not something I had thought of.  I believe the answer is
no, but I am not certain.  That will all be in the transport library,
and I think it's pretty much doing gethostbyname and such.

-bill

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 10:15:07PM -0500, David C Niemi wrote:
> 
> I think source-level APIs are the same, but if there are structures that 
> handle a 32-bit IP address they'd need to be adjusted.  Does beepcore-c 
> deal much with in_addr structures directly?
> 
> DCN
> 

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] IPV6 support for Beepcore-C

[David C N. <dc...@ad...>]

I think source-level APIs are the same, but if there are structures that 
handle a 32-bit IP address they'd need to be adjusted.  Does beepcore-c 
deal much with in_addr structures directly?

DCN

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, William J. Mills wrote:
> assuming the API's are the same.... none I think.  Should work fine.
>
> -bill
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 04:20:50PM -0500, David C Niemi wrote:
>>
>> What would be the implications of using Beepcore-C over IPV6?  How much
>> work would be needed to get it to work correctly?

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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] IPV6 support for Beepcore-C

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

assuming the API's are the same.... none I think.  Should work fine.

-bill

On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 04:20:50PM -0500, David C Niemi wrote:
> 
> What would be the implications of using Beepcore-C over IPV6?  How much 
> work would be needed to get it to work correctly?
> 
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[Beepcore-c-users] IPV6 support for Beepcore-C

[David C N. <dc...@ad...>]

What would be the implications of using Beepcore-C over IPV6?  How much 
work would be needed to get it to work correctly?

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[Beepcore-c-users] [PATCH] trivial fixes for WIN32

[Kalle O. N. <Kal...@pr...>]

I'm trying to compile today's CVS HEAD of beepcore-c on
Microsoft Windows.  Here are two rather obvious patches
that avoid compiler errors in the beepcore library.
I haven't compiled the other parts yet, so I don't know
whether the thing actually runs.

Index: threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.c
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/beepcore-c/beepcore-c/threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.c,v
retrieving revision 1.16
diff -u -p -r1.16 bp_fiostate.c
--- threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.c	2 Aug 2002 15:08:32 -0000	1.16
+++ threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.c	7 Oct 2004 07:49:35 -0000
@@ -622,7 +622,7 @@ int blw_primary_reader(void *fd,char *bu
 #ifdef WIN32
     if (ret == SOCKET_ERROR) {
         int err = WSAGetLastError();
-        ASSERT(err == WSAEWOULDBLOCK || err == WSAECONNABORTED !! err == WSAECONNRESET);
+        ASSERT(err == WSAEWOULDBLOCK || err == WSAECONNABORTED || err == WSAECONNRESET);
     }
 #endif
 
Index: threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/beepcore-c/beepcore-c/threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.h,v
retrieving revision 1.9
diff -u -p -r1.9 bp_fiostate.h
--- threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.h	2 Aug 2002 15:08:32 -0000	1.9
+++ threaded_os/transport/bp_fiostate.h	7 Oct 2004 07:49:35 -0000
@@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ struct _io_state
     POLL_NODE *pn;
     unsigned int iostate_index;
     struct _wrapper* wrapper;
-#ifdef HAVE_POLL
+#ifndef HAVE_POLL
     /* read and write are enabled/disabled by setting the event flags */
     int events;
 #endif

Re: [Beepcore-c-users] New Beepcore-C Snapshot

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

Do you feel like taking up developer or admin status on the project?

-bill


On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 03:01:24PM -0400, David C Niemi wrote:
> 
> I have put together a new 0.3.00 snapshot (at William Mills' suggestion)
> based on the CVS version.  I haven't been able to reach William lately, is
> there anyone else who might be able to speak to how this can eventually
> work its way into the SourceForge download area?
> 
> I am also working on an RPM, mostly targeting Fedora right now, but it 
> should work on most other Linuxy systems too.  If there's anyone on the 
> list who knows about the autoconf setup for beepcore-c, I'd like to ask a 
> few questions offline.
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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] New Beepcore-C Snapshot

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

Sorry, life has been hairy...


On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 03:01:24PM -0400, David C Niemi wrote:
> 
> I have put together a new 0.3.00 snapshot (at William Mills' suggestion)
> based on the CVS version.  I haven't been able to reach William lately, is
> there anyone else who might be able to speak to how this can eventually
> work its way into the SourceForge download area?
> 
> I am also working on an RPM, mostly targeting Fedora right now, but it 
> should work on most other Linuxy systems too.  If there's anyone on the 
> list who knows about the autoconf setup for beepcore-c, I'd like to ask a 
> few questions offline.
> 
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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] tuning reset in beepcore-c

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

The SASL profile does when you do TLS.

-bill

On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:58:08AM -0700, saravanan v.k wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can you please let me know if there is any profile
> that does tuning reset. 
> 
> This would help in understanding of how tuning reset
> occurs.
> 
> thanks,
> saravanan
> 
> 
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[Beepcore-c-users] New Beepcore-C Snapshot

[David C N. <dc...@ad...>]

I have put together a new 0.3.00 snapshot (at William Mills' suggestion)
based on the CVS version.  I haven't been able to reach William lately, is
there anyone else who might be able to speak to how this can eventually
work its way into the SourceForge download area?

I am also working on an RPM, mostly targeting Fedora right now, but it 
should work on most other Linuxy systems too.  If there's anyone on the 
list who knows about the autoconf setup for beepcore-c, I'd like to ask a 
few questions offline.

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[Beepcore-c-users] tuning reset in beepcore-c

[saravanan v.k <vk...@ya...>]

Hi,

Can you please let me know if there is any profile
that does tuning reset. 

This would help in understanding of how tuning reset
occurs.

thanks,
saravanan



		
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[Beepcore-c-users] beepd sent ECHO responses in wrong order

[Kalle O. N. <Kal...@pr...>]

 
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I compiled openssl 0.9.7d and beepcore-c 0.2.00 with Microsoft
Visual Studio 6 SP5 on Windows XP.  I then tried the beepd and
beepng examples on localhost.  They negotiate the ECHO profile
just fine, but when they actually transfer data, beepng detects
a "data mismatch" every now and then.

Here are the beepd.log entries relating to one of the mismatched
messages, with [...] marking omissions:

08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< MSG 1 105 * 30873 1997\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< Content-Type: application/beep+xml\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 1966 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< \r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< <data>aVNalVRIqqik[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< 60n1diFlfbs9t29ttx[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< uvJKgiQ8tq0l5NYPVx[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< 1rvhro7ycaPCbBUogP[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 24 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< MSG 1 105 * 32870 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 2104 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< saAA8pVcF410f2pqzL[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< 4S3Hv8ebCSUavvjod0[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< kEQHqezX4L7NJl8jCW[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< jvXqQXJbTcq1evOfXa[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< Qe70X4v nf5fVszAF5[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 2128 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RPY 1 105 * 30873 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> saAA8pVcF410f2pqzL[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> 4S3Hv8ebCSUavvjod0[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> kEQHqezX4L7NJl8jCW[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> jvXqQXJbTcq1evOfXa[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> Qe70X4v nf5fVszAF5[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 2044 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> SEQ 1 34969 4096\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RPY 1 105 * 32972 1997\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> Content-Type: application/beep+xml\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> \r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> <data>aVNalVRIqqik[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> 60n1diFlfbs9t29ttx[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> uvJKgiQ8tq0l5NYPVx[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> 1rvhro7ycaPCbBUogP[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 42 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< SEQ 1 34969 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< MSG 1 105 * 34969 4096\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 4101 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< zMxS7doWRnt9oNRVto[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< RbUtklig2Ojt3trQTv[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< mEGbch j2LmISiKtO1[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< C5mAADJKpk6OwA 4nq[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< mEFupfTv Fw jnm7cu[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< Gs9yYsCMg5rmraF G7[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< nm DuitQ1WUOEs6mqg[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< QRGLYhHsfs8iSW31Kj[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< aDLrg8i1eoZO0zWTLv[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 18 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< SEQ 1 34969 4096\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 2128 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RPY 1 105 * 34969 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> zMxS7doWRnt9oNRVto[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RbUtklig2Ojt3trQTv[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> mEGbch j2LmISiKtO1[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> C5mAADJKpk6OwA 4nq[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> mEFupfTv Fw jnm7cu[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 2044 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> SEQ 1 39065 4096\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RPY 1 105 * 37068 1997\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RXFmQOxpzyZq3APQPk[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> Esxyi0E9tm7BcEeg0v[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> 5kCK5dBuJ0C8E3Iar9[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> zHCkXEOtG8ucCbo5l6[...]END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 42 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< SEQ 1 39065 4096\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< MSG 1 105 . 39065 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap read 2104 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< hZLWmXbBWg4uaaYNMs[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< fIxJW8RelQdV3qkLgP[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< hRYaqhc5Pb1rOOelHl[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< dXxg8bbu4Rhog3dbGh[...] 
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap <<< Mh nzMvALLFH2Z6Lwo[...]</data>END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 2128 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> RPY 1 105 . 39065 2099\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> hZLWmXbBWg4uaaYNMs[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> fIxJW8RelQdV3qkLgP[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> hRYaqhc5Pb1rOOelHl[...]
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> dXxg8bbu4Rhog3dbGh[...] 
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> Mh nzMvALLFH2Z6Lwo[...]</data>END\r
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    1.wrap wrote 18 octets
08/06 18:58:43 beepd    0.wrap >>> SEQ 1 41164 4096\r

As you can see, beepd has exchanged the payloads of the first
two responses with each other.  The following table outlines
the differences.

indication        response
order (seq+size)  order (seq+size)  payload
================  ================  =================
1 (30873+1997)    2 (32972+1997)    Content-Type[...]
2 (32870+2099)    1 (30873+2099)    saAA8pVcF410[...]
3 (34969+4096)    3 (34969+2099)    zMxS7doWRnt9[...]
3 continued       4 (37068+1997)    RXFmQOxpzyZq[...]
4 (39065+2099)    5 (39065+2099)    hZLWmXbBWg4u[...]

My questions are:

* Does this indicate a bug that might also affect application-specific
profiles?

* If so, is there a fix?

* If bpc_send() puts the frame to the channel_inst->pending_send
queue, blw_start_indication() will apparently take it back out.
Will that happen in the same thread that called bpc_send()?

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Re: [Beepcore-c-users] RPM Packaging for Beepcore-C?

[William J. M. <wm...@es...>]

I still need to check in the silly window fixes, but then yes
a tarball is a very reasonable thing.

-bill

On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 12:26:09PM -0400, David C Niemi wrote:
> 
> The first thing I'm discovering is that the diff from 0.2.00 to the
> current CVS version is HUGE, and it is messy due to such things as the
> "core" directory tree being renamed to "base".  It would be a great help
> to have a new baseline version like 0.2.10, even if it is just a snapshot
> of CVS, so I have something to work with that other people could reliably 
> reproduce.
> 
> Is there any possibility of making a CVS snapshot available as a tarball
> in the near future?  Or if I make one, could it be available on
> SourceForge so that I can refer to it in the RPM spec file?
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> -- David C. Niemi           Adeptech Systems, Inc.   --
> -- Reston, Virginia, USA    http://www.adeptech.com/ --
> -------------------------------------------------------