Hi Thomas,
Recently a friend of mine installed be-shell on chakra linux, which makes use of network-manager by default, but he said its connection fails when using be-shell.
Also, an Arch linux user (who uses wicd) told me it happens the same on his machine. He has to kill be-shell and start plasma, in order to get internet working.
Do you know what could be the cause? Maybe managing the network connection from a related plasmoid?
Another user told me he has problems with different workspaces. He settled 8 WS, and maximized windows can "see" the panels only on workspace 1. On the others, they're displayed in somekinda fullscreen.
Other thing, the taskbar somehow lets elements disappear when i reload the shell, or while having many tasks ongoing for the same application ( i use Alwaysgroup=true). If this can be helpful, here's my style.css for tasks:
Recently a friend of mine installed be-shell on chakra linux, which makes use of network- > manager by default, but he said its connection fails when using be-shell.
Also, an Arch linux user (who uses wicd) told me it happens the same on his machine.
He has to kill be-shell and start plasma, in order to get internet working.
That doesn't make the least sense. The network is configured by the networkmanager daemon which itself is only configured by eg. the nm-applet or some plasmoid.
But you should have network without any GUI at all.
Unfortunately "get internet working" is a little unspecific.
I'd suggest the check what's failing, ie.
- whether there's a connection configured: "ip addr"
- whether there's a route: "ip route"
- whether there's DNS: "ping www.google.com" should result in at least "PING www.google.com (173.194.113.147) 56(84) bytes of data."
If at all, some invoked script could block eth0 (or wlan0) or, for networkmanager, maybe dbus - but some desktop environment being required for or blocking network sounds pretty odd.
Another user told me he has problems with different workspaces. He settled 8 WS, and maximized windows can "see" the panels only on workspace 1.
With what windowmanager? Does he eventually use more than one activitiy (one activity per virtual desktop?)
Other thing, the taskbar somehow lets elements disappear when i reload the shell
Please elaborate on "disappear" and also on what taskbar settings you use (icon only, text, do text and/or icon disappear or the entire button)?
Sorry, too much questions in the same time :(
Nevermind, wasn't really there over the weekend anyway ;-)
Two things:
1. helpdesk is for everyone - not "thomas helps others" but "everybody helps everybody" ;-)
2. you're troubled buddies can just show up here as well. Unless they just don't want accounts and in case it's only about "my english sucks": yeah, welcome to the club. The world's just taking over regular english for their own purpose and the wrong english is now the regular one =)
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Two things:
1. helpdesk is for everyone - not "thomas helps others" but "everybody helps everybody" ;-)
2. you're troubled buddies can just show up here as well. Unless they just don't want accounts and in case it's only about "my english sucks": yeah, welcome to the club. The world's just taking over regular english for their own purpose and the wrong english is now the regular one =)
Yep, the more common excuse is "my english sucks", so they're afraid of being unable to explain theirself (and the problem/s) clearly ;)
Please elaborate on "disappear" and also on what taskbar settings you use (icon only, text, do text and/or icon disappear or the entire button)?
Here's a scrot of the issue (in the panel, at the right of the taskbar, there are two spacers btw, with:{ max-width:290px; }) :
As you can see firefox and dolphin buttons are "transparent" on the taskbar. This happens with Config -> reload, whit more tasks for the same application running, or by killing & invoke the shell again.
And happens only for the active buttons ( when the application is running).
I've also tried with ButtonMode=0 and switching all buttons to Mode=0. And yet the same, with icons which disappears when reloading, more tasks for the same window, etc...That's why i posted the css initially. I thought it could be related to my theme.
About the other two problems, later i'll try to contact the other users, and ask them more details or try to bring them here to write directly the issues they encountered.
Last edit: Hombremaledicto 2013-07-16
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IOW: sticky buttons "disappear" - can you check whether the button is really gone or just the text/icon goes empty?
-> alter your style to have significant padding and a solid background - red or so ;-)
When the button "disappears" it will either disappear altogether, or some empty red area remains.
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Hi Thomas,
Recently a friend of mine installed be-shell on chakra linux, which makes use of network-manager by default, but he said its connection fails when using be-shell.
Also, an Arch linux user (who uses wicd) told me it happens the same on his machine. He has to kill be-shell and start plasma, in order to get internet working.
Do you know what could be the cause? Maybe managing the network connection from a related plasmoid?
Another user told me he has problems with different workspaces. He settled 8 WS, and maximized windows can "see" the panels only on workspace 1. On the others, they're displayed in somekinda fullscreen.
Other thing, the taskbar somehow lets elements disappear when i reload the shell, or while having many tasks ongoing for the same application ( i use Alwaysgroup=true). If this can be helpful, here's my style.css for tasks:
.BE--Tasks { padding-left:12px; margin-top:1px; color:black; }
.BE--Tasks QAbstractButton { margin:2px; border-radius:3px; }
.BE--Task:hover, .BE--Task:pressed, #OneTask:checked, #ManyTasks:checked {
border-left: 2px solid black;
border-right: 2px solid black;
}
Sorry, too much questions in the same time :(
Last edit: Hombremaledicto 2013-07-12
That doesn't make the least sense. The network is configured by the networkmanager daemon which itself is only configured by eg. the nm-applet or some plasmoid.
But you should have network without any GUI at all.
Unfortunately "get internet working" is a little unspecific.
I'd suggest the check what's failing, ie.
- whether there's a connection configured: "ip addr"
- whether there's a route: "ip route"
- whether there's DNS: "ping www.google.com" should result in at least "PING www.google.com (173.194.113.147) 56(84) bytes of data."
If at all, some invoked script could block eth0 (or wlan0) or, for networkmanager, maybe dbus - but some desktop environment being required for or blocking network sounds pretty odd.
Two things:
1. helpdesk is for everyone - not "thomas helps others" but "everybody helps everybody" ;-)
2. you're troubled buddies can just show up here as well. Unless they just don't want accounts and in case it's only about "my english sucks": yeah, welcome to the club. The world's just taking over regular english for their own purpose and the wrong english is now the regular one =)
Yep, the more common excuse is "my english sucks", so they're afraid of being unable to explain theirself (and the problem/s) clearly ;)
[tasks]
AlwaysGroup=true
ButtonMode=1
Buttons=firefox,konsole,settings,dolphin
OnlyCurrentDesk=true
OnlyCurrentScreen=false
OnlyMinimized=false
Type=TaskBar
And the sticky buttons within, which follow this scheme:
[dolphin]Exec=dolphin
Icon=system-file-manager
Label=Dolphin
Mode=1
Type=Button
Here's a scrot of the issue (in the panel, at the right of the taskbar, there are two spacers btw, with:{ max-width:290px; }) :
As you can see firefox and dolphin buttons are "transparent" on the taskbar. This happens with Config -> reload, whit more tasks for the same application running, or by killing & invoke the shell again.
And happens only for the active buttons ( when the application is running).
I've also tried with ButtonMode=0 and switching all buttons to Mode=0. And yet the same, with icons which disappears when reloading, more tasks for the same window, etc...That's why i posted the css initially. I thought it could be related to my theme.
About the other two problems, later i'll try to contact the other users, and ask them more details or try to bring them here to write directly the issues they encountered.
Last edit: Hombremaledicto 2013-07-16
IOW: sticky buttons "disappear" - can you check whether the button is really gone or just the text/icon goes empty?
-> alter your style to have significant padding and a solid background - red or so ;-)
When the button "disappears" it will either disappear altogether, or some empty red area remains.
What do you mean with significant padding exactly?
How about this:
.BE--Tasks { padding-left:12px;/ margin-top:1px; / color:black; }
.BE--Tasks QAbstractButton { /margin:2px; / border-radius:3px; background:red; }
.BE--Task:hover, .BE--Task:pressed, #OneTask:checked, #ManyTasks:checked {
border-left: 2px solid black;
border-right: 2px solid black;
}
?
[NOTE: i've just commented margin values -sorry the text formatting here makes the "*" vanishing - and added background:red; ]
The red background is visible for all buttons, including the "missing" ones.
Scrot:
Look at the first button, which is firefox (with the missing label).
Last edit: Hombremaledicto 2013-07-17