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  • Dr Frankenstein

    Dr Frankenstein - 2005-04-06

    #1) How can I manage to run older systems than MacOS 7?

    #2) How do I set up properly an high-speed internet connection (TCP/IP), and can I share my Mac files with a Windows network?

    #3) Where can I find a 68k version of Netscape or Internet Explorer for MacOS 7.5.5. I've only got bad links.

    #4) Where can I find the app "Appearance manager" for MacOS 7.5.5 ?

     
    • Allan Hunter

      Allan Hunter - 2005-04-12

      >#1) How can I manage to run older systems than MacOS 7?

      If you're on a Windows PC or a modern Mac, use Mini vMac.  It's a Mac Plus emulator and will run anything from System 0.9 to System 7.5.5 and works quite nicely for System 6.  Or, if you really want to run System 6 under Basilisk, you need older builds of Basilisk and you need the ROM from an SE, I believe.  I've never done it successfully, so either I've got the wrong ROM or the wrong Basilisk builds.

      >#2) How do I set up properly an high-speed internet connection >(TCP/IP), and can I share my Mac files with a Windows network?

      Part I:  high-speed internet connection TCP/IP

      Assuming you're talking about Basilisk, and either System 7 or System 6 (and not, for instance, System 3 or something), *AND* you're talking about the Win32 version of Basilisk (and not the X11-Unix edition), since only the Windows version actually supports networking as far as I know: 

      a) Classic networking: if you have a Control Panel named "Network", as opposed to a Control Panel named "AppleTalk" and one called "TCP", you need to use a Control Panel called MacTCP, which, if I recall correctly, is not installed as part of the plain-vanilla OS, you'll have to ferret it out online.  If you're running System 6, you'll need a somewhat elderly version of it.  You open it and you enter your IP address (you'll need an IP independent of the one your host OS uses) and you designate Ethernet as your connection method.  I don't honestly know how to do DHCP if you don't have static IP addresses available to you.  You can try just setting it to obtain addresses dynamically and see if it does so.

      b) Open Transport -- only available on later versions of System 7, and only with certain ROMS, and even then you may have to use a doohickey called Network Software Selector to switch from Classic Networking to OP -- use the TCP Control Panel, pretty much as described above for MacTCP except is far more user-friendly.

      >#3) Where can I find a 68k version of Netscape or Internet Explorer > for MacOS 7.5.5. I've only got bad links.

      You don't want them even if you can find them.  Badly out of date.  Your best bet for a 68K browser is iCab and you can download it from http://www.icab.de/ (they're still making a 68K version.  iCab isn't the most compatible browser around but it beats hell out of using Netscape 2 or Netscape 3 or whatever was the last 68K Netscape).

      >#4) Where can I find the app "Appearance manager" for MacOS 7.5.5 > ?

      That would be the Appearance Control Panel and I'm almost positive it didn't make an *ahem* appearance until MacOS 8.0, so if you're running 7.5.5 you don't have it and can't use it.  If you're wanting to set background pix or patterns, ferret out Desktop Textures (for patterns) or Dcor (for full-sized Desktop Pictures), these are System 7 compatible.

       
    • Allan Hunter

      Allan Hunter - 2005-04-12

      Oops, forgot to address this part:

      >and can I share my Mac files with a Windows network?

      Well, under System 7, you could install DAVE of certain vintages...I believe the 2.0 version was System 7-compatible but I'm not sure it would run on a 68K box, might require PowerPC.  Besides, while it would let your Mac log into an NT-vintage domain or share with Windows Workgroups as set up in Windows 3.11 through NT 4, I have my doubts about it playing nicely with Active Directory.  If you can't get a Windows 95 box on your Windows network you won't get an emulated 68K Mac on it either.

      But you can go the other direction and put your Windows boxes on an AppleTalk network that your emulated Mac can participate in.  You need PC MacLan, a product formerly produced by Miramar (http://miramarsys.com) which has now been bought out by Computer Associates.  It puts an AppleTalk stack on your NT, 2K, or XP box (or if you're running the old family, you can get a version that works with ME, W98, W95); you set up separate AppleTalk shares, giving them names and permissions, and you can browse AppleTalk shares of other computers (including your emulated Mac) in Network Neighborhood.  Sorry, I guess it's now "My Network Places".  ::insert barf smiley::

      What's far easier and cheaper than either is using FTP to move files.  The old freeware app NCSA Telnet will let any Mac from System 9 back through System 6 function as an FTP Server, and you can use CuteFTP or CoffeeCup FTP or whatever your favorite PC FTP app is to snag files and move them back and forth between machines.

       
    • Dr Frankenstein

      Dr Frankenstein - 2005-04-13

      2- I tried both MacTCP and OP, and both doesn't work with Netscape or iCab. I'm using a Windows host and I have a router (maybe it's the problem?)

      4- I got many times told that thers IS a version of Appearance Manager for MacOS 7.x, and I even got a link, but the .sit file looks corrupted.

       
    • Dr Frankenstein

      Dr Frankenstein - 2005-04-13

      Here's the link for Appearance Manager. For some reason StuffIt! doesn't want to unzip it.

      http://www.facespan.com/downloads/DownloadExtras/AppearanceManager.hqx

      I got the link on this page: http://toastytech.com/guis/macos81.html

      and it says: "Interestingly there is a version of Appearance Manager that can be added to MacOS 7 to give it the same look."

       
    • Allan Hunter

      Allan Hunter - 2005-04-13

      It's not stuffed, it's BinHexxed.  (Stuffit should decode it w/o problems though).

       
    • Dr Frankenstein

      Dr Frankenstein - 2005-04-14

      Ok I finally unzipped it.

      Is it possible that my ROM doesn't support networking at all?

       
    • Allan Hunter

      Allan Hunter - 2005-04-18

      Unlikely, unless you've got a really elderly ROM.  What ROM *are* you using, just for curiosity's sake?

       
    • Dr Frankenstein

      Dr Frankenstein - 2005-04-26

      Mac LC II

      I installed the ethernet drivers on Windows and I setted up TCP/IP correctly on my Mac (using DHCP). iCab says "network error -23045" (or something like)

       
    • rustyjay

      rustyjay - 2005-09-21

      The best place to find browsers for system 7 68k macs is:

      http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/browsers.html

      on that website they have multiple 68k versions of internet explorer, and netscape. The one that I use is the ftp.pathcom.com download of ie 4.01 full 68k and it works better than ie 6 for windows.

       

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