Re: [Bashdb-devel] bashdb.el

[Rocky B. <roc...@gm...>]

Thanks for your comments. It's rare for me to find such agreement!

I also can't help but notice and  find amusing which of the 3 bashdb.el's is
the oldest and least well maintained.

On 1/26/07, Masatake YAMATO <je...@gy...> wrote:
>
> > Advantages of not being part of GNU Emacs
> >
> >    - easier to affect a change (at least for me)
> >    -  more frequent releases for users
> >    - shorter turn-around time when a problem is found or an
> >    improvement/patch offered
> >
> > Some of the advantages may vary over time. In particular, bashdb
> releases
> > are currently much more frequent that GNU Emacs releases. Will that
> always
> > be the case? I don't know. However since bashdb is much much smaller
> than
> > GNU Emacs, it stands a good chance of being true.
> >
> > The  turn-around time to address/fix a problem is also a dynamically
> > changeable thing. Above I'm just observing that this is what the
> > currentsituation seems to be.
> >
> > Disadvantages of not being part of GNU Emacs
> >
> >    -  People are more knowledgeable about the workings of GNU Emacs ,
> >    GUD, and Emacs Lisp than most bashdb  folks are
> >    -  When GUD and GNU Emacs change, this code will get updated in
> >    conjunction with that (we hope) so...
> >    - Easier to keep code consistent with the currently installed GNU
> >    Emacs. In bashdb I guess some compatibility needs to happen across
> >    many  GNU Emacses
> >
> > Given the above advantages and disadvantages, I think the advantages of
> not
> > being part of GNU Emacs outweigh the disadvantages.
>
> I strongly agree with you. You wrote all what I'd like to wrote:)
>
> > But I'd like to hear the
> > comments of others. Should this be cross-posted to the emacs
> newsgroups  and
> > emacs developers groups?
>
> I think the answer is too obvious; we should remove bashdb.el from emacs.
>
> ;; Copyright (C) 2002, 2006 Rocky Bernstein (ro...@pa...)
> ;;                    and Masatake YAMATO (je...@gy...)
>
> Both two bashdb.el developers agree with the trade-off between being
> and not being part of GNU Emacs.
>
> If you still insist that we should ask the question on emacs-devel,
> tell me. If you don't insist, I'll start on tasks to remove bashdb.el
> from GNU Emacs. In stead removing I'd like to take more time to work
> on bashbd.el in bashdb.
>
> > And by they way, isn't there also a bashdb.el that gets distributed with
> > BASH?
>
> I have to think about this...I've just found bashdb.el in bash is
> written by me:
>
> ;;; bashdb.el --- Grand Unified Debugger mode for running bashdb
> ;; Copyright (C) 2000, 2001 Masatake YAMATO
>
> ;; Author: Masatake YAMATO <je...@gy...>
>
> So I have rigth to propose removing it from bash.
>
> Masatake
>