Re: [Bashdb-devel] bashdb.el

[Masatake Y. <je...@gy...>]

> Advantages of not being part of GNU Emacs
> 
>    - easier to affect a change (at least for me)
>    -  more frequent releases for users
>    - shorter turn-around time when a problem is found or an
>    improvement/patch offered
> 
> Some of the advantages may vary over time. In particular, bashdb releases
> are currently much more frequent that GNU Emacs releases. Will that always
> be the case? I don't know. However since bashdb is much much smaller than
> GNU Emacs, it stands a good chance of being true.
> 
> The  turn-around time to address/fix a problem is also a dynamically
> changeable thing. Above I'm just observing that this is what the
> currentsituation seems to be.
> 
> Disadvantages of not being part of GNU Emacs
> 
>    -  People are more knowledgeable about the workings of GNU Emacs ,
>    GUD, and Emacs Lisp than most bashdb  folks are
>    -  When GUD and GNU Emacs change, this code will get updated in
>    conjunction with that (we hope) so...
>    - Easier to keep code consistent with the currently installed GNU
>    Emacs. In bashdb I guess some compatibility needs to happen across
>    many  GNU Emacses
> 
> Given the above advantages and disadvantages, I think the advantages of not
> being part of GNU Emacs outweigh the disadvantages. 

I strongly agree with you. You wrote all what I'd like to wrote:)

> But I'd like to hear the
> comments of others. Should this be cross-posted to the emacs newsgroups  and
> emacs developers groups?

I think the answer is too obvious; we should remove bashdb.el from emacs.

;; Copyright (C) 2002, 2006 Rocky Bernstein (ro...@pa...) 
;;                    and Masatake YAMATO (je...@gy...)

Both two bashdb.el developers agree with the trade-off between being
and not being part of GNU Emacs.

If you still insist that we should ask the question on emacs-devel,
tell me. If you don't insist, I'll start on tasks to remove bashdb.el
from GNU Emacs. In stead removing I'd like to take more time to work
on bashbd.el in bashdb.

> And by they way, isn't there also a bashdb.el that gets distributed with
> BASH?

I have to think about this...I've just found bashdb.el in bash is 
written by me:

;;; bashdb.el --- Grand Unified Debugger mode for running bashdb
;; Copyright (C) 2000, 2001 Masatake YAMATO 

;; Author: Masatake YAMATO <je...@gy...>

So I have rigth to propose removing it from bash.

Masatake