Re: [Bashburn-info] Values misaligned in config menus

[Steven W. O. <st...@sy...>]

On Thursday, Oct 9th 2008 at 17:15 -0000, quoth Nick Warne:

=>On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:52:38 -0400 (EDT)
=>"Steven W. Orr" <st...@sy...> wrote:
=>
=>> On Thursday, Oct 9th 2008 at 02:33 -0000, quoth Nick Warne:
=>> 
=>> =>On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:05:09 +0100
=>> =>Nick Warne <ni...@uk...> wrote:
=>> =>
=>> =>> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:24:29 -0400 (EDT)
=>> =>> "Steven W. Orr" <st...@sy...> wrote:
=>> =>> 
=>> =>> > On Wednesday, Oct 8th 2008 at 18:51 -0000, quoth Anders Lind?n:
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > =>I've noticed that when I use the Swedish translation, the
=>> current =>> > settings =>in the config and advanced menu are not
=>> aligned evenly. =>> > In English and =>German it all looks right but
=>> not in Swedish. =>> > Anyone have a clue on why =>this is?
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > I'm not sure why, but I see it too. I only see that the last
=>> four =>> > menu items are messaed up. The rest is ok.
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > If I try this:
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > #! /bin/bash
=>> =>> > bb_conf_menu_default=$'\205terstll'
=>> =>> > printf "%s\n" "$bb_conf_menu_default"
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > It prints out something on two lines.
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > So for starters, we should not be coding the line up with
=>> embedded =>> > control characters. We should be using the notation I
=>> describe =>> > above.
=>> =>> > 
=>> =>> > As for why it displays this way... I suspect it has something
=>> to do =>> > wit hwhether the terminal emulator program we're using
=>> (each one of =>> > different) knows how to handle the characters we
=>> try to display. =>> > IOW, is the character that we want to see part
=>> of the character set =>> > that the program knows how to display?
=>> This is just a stab because =>> > the likelyhood is that Anders is
=>> correctly capable of displaying =>> > whatver that $'\205' really is.
=>> =>> 
=>> =>> Now, I don't see this at all in X using mrxvt terminal.  All are
=>> lined =>> up perfect.  But if I go to virtual terminal Ctrl+Alt+F2
=>> and try it, =>> they are mis-aligned by a space.
=>> =>
=>> =>OK, in xterm I see what you mean.
=>> =>
=>> =>In the Swedish lang configure.lang:
=>> =>
=>> =>bb_conf_menu_default='_____terst____ll'
=>> =>bb_conf_menu_revert='_____ngra ____ndringar'
=>> =>
=>> =>(if you can't see the above try:
=>> =>http://svn.inf.sgsp.edu.pl/filedetails.php?rep=0&path=/bashburn/trunk/lang/Swedish/configure.lang&rev=0&sc=0
=>> =>)
=>> =>
=>> =>appear as:
=>> =>
=>> =>^[[1;31m|-^[[37;40m 20) __^__terst____ll^[[1;31m
=>> =>^[[1;31m|-^[[37;40m 21) __^__ngra ____ndringar^[[1;31m
=>> =>
=>> =>i.e. having ctrl ^ chars in there instead of that funny inverse
=>> question =>mark.
=>> =>
=>> =>Nick
=>> 
=>> 
=>> 
=>> I suspect that it's not the xterm or or mrxvt (not familiar with that 
=>> one). When you start an xterm, you *can* specify the font.
=>> 
=>> e.g.,
=>> 
=>> xterm -font
=>> -adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--14-100-100-100-m-90-iso8859-15
=>> 
=>> I'm guessing that the font that your terminal emulator is using
=>> doesn't have those characters in the font that it's running which are
=>> being mis-displayed.
=>> 
=>> You can get a list of all of the fonts with xlsfonts. We really don't
=>> want to be using a proportional font, so one of the fixed fonts is
=>> probably more appropriate, e.g.,
=>> 
=>
=>Strange though Anders sees this too, with (I guess) a Swedish locale
=>on the machine.
=>
=>Very strange.

Right. But what I'm saying is that it's not a locale problem. It's a font 
problem. Every character that gets displayed is called a glyph. A set of 
glyphs is a font. Not every glyph is represented inside any particular 
font. So, the question for AndErs is: Is the missing character being 
displayed on your terminal emulator correctly by something that is not bb? 
Can you get it to display by using either a shell echo or a printf? Can 
you get it to happen in a C program?

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