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Re: [Autogen-users] struggling to build autogen-5.18.16 on a Linux x86_64 machine

[Dennis C. <dc...@bl...>]

On 11/30/23 16:46, Dennis Clarke via Autogen-users wrote:
> 
> Dear autogen folks :
> 
>      Well it has come to this I guess. I need to reach out on the mail
> list and bother people because I can not figure out how to get autogen
> to compile. For some reason that I can not make sense of. Here are the
> details :
> 
     The classic "self reply" here wherein I can say that stripping out
  the previously built guile was a big mistake :

e#
e# pwd
/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.002
e# ./configure --prefix=/opt/bw --disable-silent-rules \
 > --enable-shared --enable-static --enable-debug \
 > --with-gnu-ld --with-libxml2=/opt/bw --disable-dependency-tracking

checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

                                             A    U    T    O    G    E    N

GNU AutoGen-5.18.16 
                             libopts.la-42:1:17
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk

.
.  <snip>
.

checking for egrep... (cached) /bin/grep -E
checking for fgrep... (cached) /bin/grep -F
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
configure: checking for guile 2.2
configure: checking for guile 2.0
configure: checking for guile 1.8
configure: error:
No Guile development packages were found.

Please verify that you have Guile installed.  If you installed Guile
from a binary distribution, please verify that you have also installed
the development packages.  If you installed it yourself, you might need
to adjust your PKG_CONFIG_PATH; see the pkg-config man page for more.

e#


So clearly I need guile somewhere. However I have no idea why the
  process blows up when I do in fact actually have guile around.

     Baffled.


Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken

[Autogen-users] struggling to build autogen-5.18.16 on a Linux x86_64 machine

[Dennis C. <dc...@bl...>]

Dear autogen folks :

     Well it has come to this I guess. I need to reach out on the mail
list and bother people because I can not figure out how to get autogen
to compile. For some reason that I can not make sense of. Here are the
details :

     (1) the machine is running a stripped down Devuan Linux stable.

         When I say "stripped down" I mean there is very little installed
         on it. There is no OpenSSH and no OpenSSL nor much of anything
         that will ever listen on a network port. I did that on purpose.
         The only access is via a serial port console login. Anything
         that I need will be built from sources into either /usr/local or
         some place like /opt/bw.

     (2) the machine can mount NFSv3 file systems and that is how I have
         access to a very basic toolchain with GCC 13.2.0 and binutils
         with a few other things. Those work pretty darn well.

     (3) trying to configure and build autogen-5.18.16 gives me nothing
         but a heart ache with messages that I can not understand. I have
         run configure four times with different ( and fewer ) options
         each time until it worked.

So here are some of the tools that have already been built and tested :

e#
e# iconv --version
iconv (GNU libiconv 1.17)
Copyright (C) 2000-2022 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
<https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Written by Bruno Haible.
e#
e# gettext --version
gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.22.4
Copyright (C) 1995-2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
<https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
Written by Ulrich Drepper.
e#
e# info --version
info (GNU texinfo) 7.1

Copyright (C) 2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later 
<http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
e#
e# as --version
GNU assembler (GNU Binutils) 2.41
Copyright (C) 2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program is free software; you may redistribute it under the terms of
the GNU General Public License version 3 or later.
This program has absolutely no warranty.
This assembler was configured for a target of `x86_64-pc-linux-gnu'.
e#
e# autoconf --version
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.71
Copyright (C) 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+/Autoconf: GNU GPL version 3 or later
<https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>, 
<https://gnu.org/licenses/exceptions.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by David J. MacKenzie and Akim Demaille.
e#


I should point out that autoconf is just a disaster to build from
the source tarball at ftp.gnu.org. On any sort of a current Linux
server it blows up with catastrophic failure in its own testsuite.
It took days and multiple people to finally figure out that the
"release" tarball at ftp.gnu.org seriously needs a patch. Which we
did and then it pretty much passes its own testsuite.[1]



e# automake --version
automake (GNU automake) 1.16.5
Copyright (C) 2021 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv2+: GNU GPL version 2 or later 
<https://gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html>
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.

Written by Tom Tromey <tr...@re...>
        and Alexandre Duret-Lutz <ad...@gn...>.
e#

e# xz --version
xz (XZ Utils) 5.4.5
liblzma 5.4.5
e#

Also libxml2-2.9.12 :

e# xmllint --version
xmllint: using libxml version 20912
    compiled with: Threads Tree Output Push Reader Patterns Writer SAXv1 
FTP HTTP DTDValid HTML Legacy C14N Catalog XPath XPointer XInclude Iconv 
ISO8859X Unicode Regexps Automata Schemas Schematron Modules Debug Zlib 
Lzma
e#

e# guile --version
guile (GNU Guile) 3.0.9
Copyright (C) 2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

License LGPLv3+: GNU LGPL 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html>.
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
e#

Also, of course, there is a neatly bootstrapped GCC :

e#
e# which gcc
/opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc
e#
e# gcc --version
gcc (GENUNIX Sun Nov 26 23:15:09 UTC 2023) 13.2.0
Copyright (C) 2023 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

e#



So it seems reasonable to build autogen into the tool chain here. It has
taken hours to figure out a configure line that does not blow up with
some strange message. Finally we landed on this gem :

e# ./configure --prefix=/opt/bw --disable-silent-rules \
--enable-shared --enable-static --enable-debug --with-gnu-ld \
--with-libxml2=/opt/bw --disable-dependency-tracking




The output from that seems to be reasonably sane :



checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking target system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

                                             A    U    T    O    G    E    N

GNU AutoGen-5.18.16 
                             libopts.la-42:1:17
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... no
checking for mawk... mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
checking whether make supports the include directive... yes (GNU style)
checking for gcc... /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking whether /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc understands -c and -o together... yes
checking dependency style of /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc... none
checking how to run the C preprocessor... /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -E
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /bin/grep
checking for egrep... /bin/grep -E
checking for ANSI C header files... yes
checking for sys/types.h... yes
checking for sys/stat.h... yes
checking for stdlib.h... yes
checking for string.h... yes
checking for memory.h... yes
checking for strings.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... yes
checking for stdint.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... yes
checking minix/config.h usability... no
checking minix/config.h presence... no
checking for minix/config.h... no
checking whether it is safe to define __EXTENSIONS__... yes
checking whether _XOPEN_SOURCE should be defined... no
checking how to print strings... printf
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed
checking for fgrep... /bin/grep -F
checking for ld used by /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc... /opt/bw/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/opt/bw/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes
checking for BSD- or MS-compatible name lister (nm)... /opt/bw/bin/nm -p
checking the name lister (/opt/bw/bin/nm -p) interface... BSD nm
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 1572864
checking how to convert x86_64-pc-linux-gnu file names to 
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu format... func_convert_file_noop
checking how to convert x86_64-pc-linux-gnu file names to toolchain 
format... func_convert_file_noop
checking for /opt/bw/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r
checking for objdump... /opt/bw/bin/objdump
checking how to recognize dependent libraries... pass_all
checking for dlltool... dlltool
checking how to associate runtime and link libraries... printf %s\n
checking for archiver @FILE support... @
checking for strip... /opt/bw/bin/strip
checking for ranlib... /opt/bw/bin/ranlib
checking command to parse /opt/bw/bin/nm -p output from 
/opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc object... ok
checking for sysroot... no
checking for a working dd... /bin/dd
checking how to truncate binary pipes... /bin/dd bs=4096 count=1
checking for mt... mt
checking if mt is a manifest tool... no
checking for dlfcn.h... yes
checking for objdir... .libs
checking if /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no
checking for /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC -DPIC
checking if /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc PIC flag -fPIC -DPIC works... yes
checking if /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc static flag -static works... yes
checking if /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes
checking if /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc supports -c -o file.o... (cached) yes
checking whether the /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc linker (/opt/bw/bin/ld -m 
elf_x86_64) supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build shared libraries... yes
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking if malloc debugging is wanted... no
checking for /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc option to accept ISO C99... none needed
checking for /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc option to accept ISO Standard C... 
(cached) none needed
checking whether clearerr_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether feof_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether ferror_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fflush_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fgets_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fputc_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fputs_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fread_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether fwrite_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether getc_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether getchar_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether putc_unlocked is declared... yes
checking whether putchar_unlocked is declared... yes
checking for texi2html... :
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes
checking for inline... inline
checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes
checking for mode_t... yes
checking for pid_t... yes
checking for size_t... yes
checking for uid_t in sys/types.h... yes
checking for long double with more range or precision than double... yes
checking for long long... yes
checking for uintmax_t... yes
checking for size_t... (cached) yes
checking for wchar_t... yes
checking size of char*... 8
checking size of int... 4
checking size of long... 8
checking size of short... 2
checking for unsigned long long int... yes
checking for struct stat.st_mtim... yes
checking for struct stat.st_mtimensec... no
checking for struct stat.st_mtimespec... no
checking for strchr... yes
checking for strlcpy... no
checking for snprintf... yes
checking for dlopen... yes
checking for utimensat... yes
checking for clock_gettime... yes
checking for library containing copysign... none required
checking for library containing copysignl... none required
checking for library containing modfl... none required
checking libio.h usability... no
checking libio.h presence... no
checking for libio.h... no
checking ctype.h usability... yes
checking ctype.h presence... yes
checking for ctype.h... yes
checking assert.h usability... yes
checking assert.h presence... yes
checking for assert.h... yes
checking sys/resource.h usability... yes
checking sys/resource.h presence... yes
checking for sys/resource.h... yes
checking whether sigsetjmp is declared... yes
checking whether sys_siglist is declared... no
checking for putenv... yes
checking for getdate_r... yes
checking for utimes... yes
checking for futimes... yes
checking for inline... (cached) inline
checking for long long int... yes
checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... (cached) /bin/grep
checking for egrep... (cached) /bin/grep -E
checking for fgrep... (cached) /bin/grep -F
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
configure: checking for guile 2.2
configure: found guile 2.2
checking for ld... /opt/bw/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64
checking if the linker (/opt/bw/bin/ld -m elf_x86_64) is GNU ld... yes
checking for shared library run path origin... done
checking host CPU and C ABI... x86_64
checking for the common suffixes of directories in the library search 
path... lib,lib
checking for dirent.h that defines DIR... yes
checking for library containing opendir... none required
checking sys/mman.h usability... yes
checking sys/mman.h presence... yes
checking for sys/mman.h... yes
checking sys/param.h usability... yes
checking sys/param.h presence... yes
checking for sys/param.h... yes
checking sys/poll.h usability... yes
checking sys/poll.h presence... yes
checking for sys/poll.h... yes
checking sys/procset.h usability... no
checking sys/procset.h presence... no
checking for sys/procset.h... no
checking sys/select.h usability... yes
checking sys/select.h presence... yes
checking for sys/select.h... yes
checking sys/socket.h usability... yes
checking sys/socket.h presence... yes
checking for sys/socket.h... yes
checking sys/stropts.h usability... no
checking sys/stropts.h presence... no
checking for sys/stropts.h... no
checking sys/time.h usability... yes
checking sys/time.h presence... yes
checking for sys/time.h... yes
checking sys/un.h usability... yes
checking sys/un.h presence... yes
checking for sys/un.h... yes
checking sys/wait.h usability... yes
checking sys/wait.h presence... yes
checking for sys/wait.h... yes
checking for dlfcn.h... (cached) yes
checking errno.h usability... yes
checking errno.h presence... yes
checking for errno.h... yes
checking fcntl.h usability... yes
checking fcntl.h presence... yes
checking for fcntl.h... yes
checking libgen.h usability... yes
checking libgen.h presence... yes
checking for libgen.h... yes
checking libintl.h usability... yes
checking libintl.h presence... yes
checking for libintl.h... yes
checking for memory.h... (cached) yes
checking netinet/in.h usability... yes
checking netinet/in.h presence... yes
checking for netinet/in.h... yes
checking setjmp.h usability... yes
checking setjmp.h presence... yes
checking for setjmp.h... yes
checking stdbool.h usability... yes
checking stdbool.h presence... yes
checking for stdbool.h... yes
checking sysexits.h usability... yes
checking sysexits.h presence... yes
checking for sysexits.h... yes
checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes
checking utime.h usability... yes
checking utime.h presence... yes
checking for utime.h... yes
checking stdarg.h usability... yes
checking stdarg.h presence... yes
checking for stdarg.h... yes
checking for string.h... (cached) yes
checking limits.h usability... yes
checking limits.h presence... yes
checking for limits.h... yes
checking for inttypes.h... (cached) yes
checking for working stdnoreturn.h... yes
checking for runetype.h... no
checking for wchar.h... yes
checking for wchar_t... (cached) yes
checking for wint_t... yes
checking for int8_t... yes
checking for uint8_t... yes
checking for int16_t... yes
checking for uint16_t... yes
checking for int32_t... yes
checking for uint32_t... yes
checking for intptr_t... yes
checking for uintptr_t... yes
checking for uint_t... no
checking for pid_t... (cached) yes
checking for size_t... (cached) yes
checking for ptrdiff_t... yes
checking size of char *... 8
checking size of int... (cached) 4
checking size of long... (cached) 8
checking size of short... (cached) 2
checking for pathfind in -lgen... no
checking for gettext in -lintl... no
checking for vprintf... yes
checking for _doprnt... no
checking vfork.h usability... no
checking vfork.h presence... no
checking for vfork.h... no
checking for fork... yes
checking for vfork... yes
checking for working fork... yes
checking for working vfork... (cached) yes
checking for mmap... yes
checking for canonicalize_file_name... yes
checking for snprintf... (cached) yes
checking for strdup... yes
checking for strchr... (cached) yes
checking for strrchr... yes
checking for strsignal... yes
checking for fchmod... yes
checking for fstat... yes
checking for chmod... yes
checking for a sed that does not truncate output... (cached) /bin/sed
checking whether shell scripts are desired... yes
checking for vfork.h... (cached) no
checking for fork... (cached) yes
checking for vfork... (cached) yes
checking for working fork... (cached) yes
checking for working vfork... (cached) yes
checking whether using shell scripts... yes
checking whether statically link autogen to libopts... no
checking whether setjmp() links okay... yes
checking whether __attribute__((format_arg(n))) works... yes
checking whether sigsetjmp() links okay... yes
checking whether with-libxml2-cflags was specified... no
checking whether with-libxml2-libs was specified... no
checking whether libxml2 can be linked with... no
checking whether sysinfo(2) is Solaris... no
checking whether specify an autogen timeout... no
checking whether strcspn matches prototype and works... no
checking whether uname(2) is POSIX... yes
checking whether runtime library dirs can be specified... -Wl,-R${libdir}
checking whether name of the packager of this software is supplied... no
checking whether packager-specific version information is supplied... no
checking whether bug reporting URI/e-mail/etc. is supplied... no
checking for GUILE... yes
checking whether a reg expr header is specified... no
checking whether with-libregex was specified... no
checking whether with-libregex-cflags was specified... no
checking whether with-libregex-libs was specified... no
checking whether libregex functions properly... yes
checking whether pathfind(3) works... no
checking whether /dev/zero is readable device... crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 
1, 5 Nov 29 15:06 /dev/zero
checking whether we have a functional realpath(3C)... yes
checking whether strftime() works... yes
checking whether fopen accepts "b" mode... yes
checking whether fopen accepts "t" mode... yes
checking whether not wanting optional option args... yes
checking for fopencookie... yes
checking for static inline... static inline
checking for working stdnoreturn.h... (cached) yes
checking if malloc debugging is wanted... no
checking for gawk... (cached) mawk
checking for runetype.h... (cached) no
checking for wchar.h... (cached) yes
checking for stdarg.h... (cached) yes
checking for wchar_t... (cached) yes
checking for wint_t... (cached) yes
checking for long double... yes
checking for strtoul... yes
checking for ldexpl... yes
checking for frexpl... yes
checking for log in -lm... yes
checking for copysign... yes
checking for copysignl... yes
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking that generated files are newer than configure... done
configure: creating ./config.status
config.status: creating autoopts/mk-autoopts-pc
config.status: creating autoopts/autoopts-config
config.status: creating autoopts/tpl/tpl-config.tlib
config.status: creating doc/auto_gen.tpl
config.status: creating autoopts/test/defs
config.status: creating config/mk-shdefs
config.status: creating pkg/pkg-env
config.status: creating Makefile
config.status: creating agen5/Makefile
config.status: creating agen5/test/Makefile
config.status: creating autoopts/Makefile
config.status: creating autoopts/test/Makefile
config.status: creating columns/Makefile
config.status: creating compat/Makefile
config.status: creating doc/Makefile
config.status: creating getdefs/Makefile
config.status: creating getdefs/test/Makefile
config.status: creating pkg/Makefile
config.status: creating snprintfv/Makefile
config.status: creating xml2ag/Makefile
config.status: creating xml2ag/test/Makefile
config.status: creating config.h
config.status: executing depfiles commands
config.status: executing libtool commands
config.status: executing stamp-h commands
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Configuration:

   Source code location:   .
   Compiler:               /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc
   Compiler flags:         -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing
   Host System Type:       x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
   Install path:           /opt/bw

   See config.h for further configuration information.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
e#


So myself and some other people have looked over that from top to bottom
and see nothing that jumps out screaming at us. So we all face east with
a black cat under a full moon and watch "make" utter this mess :


/bin/bash config/mk-shdefs config/shdefs
+ exec
++ mktemp --suffix=.tdir -d /tmp/shdefs-XXXXXXXXX
+ tmp=/tmp/shdefs-d6gafPwiB.tdir
+ exec
config.status: creating shdef-temp
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001'
Making all in compat
make[2]: Entering directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/compat'
:
make[2]: Leaving directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/compat'
Making all in snprintfv
make[2]: Entering directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/snprintfv'
for f in filament.c format.c printf.c mem.c stream.c custom.c ; do echo 
"#include \"$f\"" ; done > snv.c
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=compile /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..  -I.. -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE  -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c -o snv.lo snv.c
libtool: compile:  /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I.. 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c snv.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/snv.o
libtool: compile:  /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I.. 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c snv.c -o snv.o >/dev/null 2>&1
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc  -g 
-O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -no-undefined -L/opt/bw/lib -o libsnprintfv.la 
snv.lo  -lm -ldl
libtool: link: /opt/bw/bin/ar cru .libs/libsnprintfv.a .libs/snv.o
libtool: link: /opt/bw/bin/ranlib .libs/libsnprintfv.a
libtool: link: ( cd ".libs" && rm -f "libsnprintfv.la" && ln -s 
"../libsnprintfv.la" "libsnprintfv.la" )
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make  all-recursive
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LGCFLAGS="-I/opt/bw/include/guile/3.0 -I/opt/bw -I/opt/bw/include " \
AGexe="/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/agen5/autogen" 
GDexe="/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/getdefs/getdefs" 
CLexe="/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/columns/columns" 
srcdir="."     top_srcdir=".." builddir="." top_builddir=".." 
AO_AGE="17"     AO_CURRENT="42" AO_REVISION="1" POSIX_SHELL="/bin/bash" \
     /bin/bash ./mk-tpl-config.sh tpl-config-stamp autoopts/options.h 
autoopts/usage-txt.h genshell.h option-xat-attribute.h 
option-value-type.h ao-strs.h ag-char-map.h save-flags.h autoopts.h 
project.h proto.h parse-duration.c ao-strs.c option-value-type.c 
option-xat-attribute.c save-flags.c autoopts.c alias.c    boolean.c 
check.c     configfile.c cook.c enum.c     env.c       file.c 
find.c       genshell.c load.c     makeshell.c nested.c    numeric.c 
pgusage.c putshell.c reset.c     restore.c   save.c       sort.c stack.c 
    streqvcmp.c text_mmap.c time.c       tokenize.c usage.c    version.c 
   init.c
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=compile /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..  -I.. -I../autoopts -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 
-DPKGDATADIR='"/opt/bw/share/autogen"' -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin 
-fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations 
-malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 
-m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags 
-Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Werror -Wcast-align 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-aliasing=3 -Wextra -Wno-cast-qual -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c -o libopts_la-libopts.lo `test -f 'libopts.c' || 
echo './'`libopts.c
libtool: compile:  /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I.. 
-I../autoopts -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 
-DPKGDATADIR=\"/opt/bw/share/autogen\" -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin 
-fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations 
-malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 
-m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags 
-Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Werror -Wcast-align 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-aliasing=3 -Wextra -Wno-cast-qual -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c libopts.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libopts_la-libopts.o
libtool: compile:  /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I.. 
-I../autoopts -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 
-DPKGDATADIR=\"/opt/bw/share/autogen\" -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin 
-fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations 
-malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 
-m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags 
-Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Werror -Wcast-align 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-aliasing=3 -Wextra -Wno-cast-qual -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c libopts.c -o libopts_la-libopts.o >/dev/null 2>&1
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc 
-DPKGDATADIR='"/opt/bw/share/autogen"' -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin 
-fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations 
-malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 
-m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags 
-Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -Wall -Werror -Wcast-align 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-aliasing=3 -Wextra -Wno-cast-qual -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -version-info 42:1:17 -L/opt/bw/lib -o libopts.la 
-rpath /opt/bw/lib  libopts_la-libopts.lo ../snprintfv/libsnprintfv.la 
-lm -ldl
libtool: link: /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -shared  -fPIC -DPIC 
.libs/libopts_la-libopts.o  -Wl,--whole-archive 
../snprintfv/.libs/libsnprintfv.a -Wl,--no-whole-archive  -L/opt/bw/lib 
-lm -ldl  -g -O0 -m64 -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp 
-mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib 
-Wl,--enable-new-dtags -g -O0 -m64 -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib 
-Wl,--enable-new-dtags   -Wl,-soname -Wl,libopts.so.25 -o 
.libs/libopts.so.25.17.1
libtool: link: (cd ".libs" && rm -f "libopts.so.25" && ln -s 
"libopts.so.25.17.1" "libopts.so.25")
libtool: link: (cd ".libs" && rm -f "libopts.so" && ln -s 
"libopts.so.25.17.1" "libopts.so")
libtool: link: (cd .libs/libopts.lax/libsnprintfv.a && /opt/bw/bin/ar x 
"/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/autoopts/../snprintfv/.libs/libsnprintfv.a")
libtool: link: /opt/bw/bin/ar cru .libs/libopts.a  libopts_la-libopts.o 
.libs/libopts.lax/libsnprintfv.a/snv.o
libtool: link: /opt/bw/bin/ranlib .libs/libopts.a
libtool: link: rm -fr .libs/libopts.lax
libtool: link: ( cd ".libs" && rm -f "libopts.la" && ln -s 
"../libopts.la" "libopts.la" )
/bin/bash mk-autoopts-pc pkgconfig/autoopts.pc
make[4]: Leaving directory 
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make[2]: Leaving directory 
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make[2]: Entering directory 
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Making all in test
make[3]: Entering directory 
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make[3]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
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make[3]: Entering directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/agen5'
exec > ag.c ; \
echo '#undef   PKGDATADIR' ; \
echo '#define  PKGDATADIR "/opt/bw/share/autogen"' ; \
echo '#undef   LIBDATADIR' ; \
echo '#define  LIBDATADIR "/opt/bw/lib/autogen"' ; \
mk=`set -- make ; command -v $1` ; \
echo 'static char const make_prog[] = "'$mk'";' ; \
printf '\n#define  DEFINING 1\n' ; \
printf '#include "%s"\n' autoopts/project.h autogen.h ; \
printf '#include "%s"\n' autogen.c defParse-fsm.c defLex.c directive.c 
funcCase.c funcDef.c funcEval.c funcFor.c funcIf.c functions.c 
expExtract.c expFormat.c expGperf.c expGuile.c  expMake.c expOutput.c 
expPrint.c  expState.c expString.c agShell.c ag-text.c    agCgi.c 
agDep.c      agInit.c     agUtils.c cgi-fsm.c    defDirect.c  defFind.c 
   defLoad.c    fmemopen.c loadPseudo.c opts.c       scribble.c 
tpLoad.c     tpParse.c tpProcess.c
/opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..  -I.. -I../autoopts 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -I/opt/bw/include/guile/3.0 -I/opt/bw 
-I/opt/bw/include  -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c -o autogen-ag.o `test -f 'ag.c' || echo './'`ag.c
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc 
-I/opt/bw/include/guile/3.0 -I/opt/bw -I/opt/bw/include  -g -O0 -m64 
-fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -export-dynamic  -no-install -L/opt/bw/lib -o 
autogen  autogen-ag.o ../autoopts/libopts.la 
../snprintfv/libsnprintfv.la -L/opt/bw/lib -lguile-3.0 -lgc -lpthread 
-ldl  -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib -lm -ldl
libtool: link: /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -I/opt/bw/include/guile/3.0 
-I/opt/bw -I/opt/bw/include -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -o autogen autogen-ag.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib 
-Wl,--export-dynamic  -L/opt/bw/lib ../autoopts/.libs/libopts.so 
../snprintfv/.libs/libsnprintfv.a /opt/bw/lib/libguile-3.0.so 
/opt/bw/lib/libffi.so /opt/bw/lib/libunistring.so 
/opt/bw/lib/libiconv.so /opt/bw/lib/libgmp.so -lcrypt 
/opt/bw/lib/libgc.so -lpthread -lm -ldl -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/autoopts/.libs 
-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib
make[3]: Leaving directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/agen5'
make[2]: Leaving directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/agen5'
Making all in columns
make[2]: Entering directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/columns'
exec > cols.c ; \
echo '#undef   PKGDATADIR' ; \
echo '#define  PKGDATADIR "/opt/bw/share/autogen"' ; \
echo ; echo '#define  DEFINING 1' ; \
echo '#include "autoopts/project.h"' ; \
for f in opts.h columns.c opts.c ; do echo "#include \"$f\"" ; done
/opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..  -I.. -I../autoopts 
-D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE  -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math 
-ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double 
-march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double 
-mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -c -o cols.o cols.c
/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc  -g 
-O0 -m64 -fno-builtin -fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off 
-fno-unsafe-math-optimizations -malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 
-mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 -m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 
-mstackrealign -mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 
-Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul 
-fno-strict-aliasing -no-install -L/opt/bw/lib -o columns cols.o 
../autoopts/libopts.la -L/opt/bw/lib -lguile-3.0 -lgc -lpthread -ldl 
-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib -lm -ldl
libtool: link: /opt/bw/gcc13/bin/gcc -g -O0 -m64 -fno-builtin 
-fno-fast-math -ffp-contract=off -fno-unsafe-math-optimizations 
-malign-double -march=k8 -mtune=k8 -mieee-fp -mhard-float -mpc80 
-m128bit-long-double -mlong-double-80 -mstackrealign 
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=8 -Wl,-rpath=/opt/bw/lib 
-Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -o 
columns cols.o -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib  -L/opt/bw/lib 
../autoopts/.libs/libopts.so /opt/bw/lib/libguile-3.0.so 
/opt/bw/lib/libffi.so /opt/bw/lib/libunistring.so 
/opt/bw/lib/libiconv.so /opt/bw/lib/libgmp.so -lcrypt 
/opt/bw/lib/libgc.so -lpthread -lm -ldl -Wl,-rpath 
-Wl,/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/autoopts/.libs 
-Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/opt/bw/lib
top_builddir=.. \
/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/agen5/autogen 
-L../autoopts/tpl -L../autoopts/tpl -MFstamp-agtexi -Tagtexi-cmd.tpl 
-DLEVEL=section --timeout=`expr 5 '*' 3` ./opts.def
Giving up in agInit.c line 84
Compiled Guile version does not match: 3.0.9 vs 202009
make[2]: *** [Makefile:818: stamp-agtexi] Aborted
make[2]: Leaving directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001/columns'
make[1]: *** [Makefile:547: all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
'/opt/bw/build/autogen-5.18.16_linux_pentium_G4500.001'
make: *** [Makefile:454: all] Error 2

That results in some colourful language and then empty coffee cups with 
some confusion. There is no other "guile" anywhere in the machine :

e#
e# dpkg-query -l | grep -i 'guile'
e#

So I have no clue.

I can tell you that the stripped down Linux kernel I built works great 
and I even have the NVidia drivers in there. The NVidia CUDA compiler 
works and I have tested the computational output from an NVidia Quadro 
card pushing around tons of IEEE-754 floating point 64-bit numbers. That 
all works. So does the other tools built into the toolchain. Mostly. 
Near as anyone can tell.

I have no clue what "Compiled Guile version does not match: 3.0.9 vs 
202009" means to me or anyone else.

So then .... any thoughts or directions or should we just add a bit of
whiskey to the coffee and start hacking into the configure.ac or some
other nightmare?



Dennis Clarke
RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC
UNIX and Linux spoken


[1] go get the tarball for autoconf-2.71 and try a configure, make
with the usual make check. Watch it fail at least 120+ tests or more.

This fixes the mess :

e# cat ../autoconf-2.71_linux_pentium_G4500.005.patch
--- ./tests/local.at.orig       2021-01-28 20:46:48.000000000 +0000
+++ ./tests/local.at    2023-11-29 15:16:00.724009006 +0000
@@ -352,7 +352,7 @@
  # - AC_SUBST'ed variables
  #   (FIXME: Generate a list of these automatically.)
  # - _|@|.[*#?$].|argv|ARGC|LINENO|OLDPWD|PIPESTATUS|RANDOM|SECONDS
-#   |START_TIME|ToD|_AST_FEATURES
+#   |SHLVL|START_TIME|ToD|_AST_FEATURES
  #   Some variables some shells use and change.
  #   `.[*#?$].' catches `$#' etc. which are displayed like this:
  #      | '!'=18186
@@ -403,7 +403,7 @@
        [GREP|[EF]GREP|SED],
        [[_@]|.[*@%:@?$].],
        [argv|ARGC|LINENO|BASH_ARGC|BASH_ARGV|OLDPWD|PIPESTATUS|RANDOM],
-      [SECONDS|START_TIME|ToD|_AST_FEATURES]))=' \
+      [SECONDS|SHLVL|START_TIME|ToD|_AST_FEATURES]))=' \
       $act_file ||
         test $? -eq 1 || echo failed >&2
      ) 2>stderr-$act_file |
@@ -434,6 +434,7 @@
  #   - PPID [bash, zsh]
  #   - RANDOM [bash, zsh]
  #   - SECONDS [bash, zsh]
+#   - SHLVL [bash]
  #   - START_TIME [NetBSD sh]
  #   - ToD [NetBSD sh]
  #   - '$' [zsh]
@@ -481,6 +482,7 @@
         /^PPID=/ d
         /^RANDOM=/ d
         /^SECONDS=/ d
+       /^SHLVL=/ d
         /^START_TIME=/ d
         /^ToD=/ d
         /'\'\\\$\''=/ d
e#

[Autogen-users] Guile versions to use

[Thomas O. <opp...@gm...>]

Dear Sir:
I am using Autogen-5.18.16 to run the test suite for GCC 11.3.0 and
12.1.0.  To compile Autogen, it requires Guile versions 2.0 or 2.2.  The
latest Guile version is 3.0.8.  How can I get Autogen to accept Guile
version 3?  Thank you. Best regards, Tom Oppe

Re: [Autogen-users] Build of autogen-5.18.16 on Fedora Core 37

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

Probably relying on a legacy LD that would map them to the same piece of
memory.
The autogen-ag.o file should not be defining it. It should only be internal
to libopts.
The best solution will be to fiddle "autoopts.h" so that when it's pulled
in by autogen,
it doesn't define any variables. It's been several years since I looked at
the code and
it will be a while before I can get to it, so, please, feel free. I'll roll
up your fix the next
time I roll out another release. :) Thank you!

 - Bruce


On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 3:40 PM George R Goffe via Autogen-users <
aut...@li...> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> I'm trying to build this "latest"(?) version on my Fedora Core 37 system
> and am having trouble (see below). If the development repository is
> available I'd be willing/eager to use it for the latest source code If you
> see a benefit to that for you.
>
> Here are my config options:
>
>       96  ./configure --prefix=/usr/lsd/$osname --verbose        \
>       97              --with-local-prefix=/usr/lsd/$osname       \
>       98              --disable-silent-rules                     \
>       99              --enable-dependency-tracking               \
>     100              --enable-shared=yes                        \
>     101              --enable-static=yes                        \
>     102              --enable-fast-install=no                   \
>     103              --enable-static-autogen                    \
>     104              --enable-snprintfv-install                 \
>     105              --with-pic=yes                             \
>     106              --with-gnu-ld
>
> Here's what I'm seeing (full build log available on request)::
>
> /bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link gcc -I/usr/include/guile/2.2
> -g -O2 -Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -export-dynamic
> -static -no-install  -o autogen  autogen-ag.o ../autoopts/libopts.la
> ../snprintfv/libsnprintfv.la -lguile-2.2 -lgc -lpthread -ldl   -lm -ldl
> libtool: link: gcc -I/usr/include/guile/2.2 -g -O2
> -Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -o autogen autogen-ag.o
> -Wl,--export-dynamic  ../autoopts/.libs/libopts.a
> ../snprintfv/.libs/libsnprintfv.a -lguile-2.2 -lgc -lpthread -lm -ldl
> /usr/bin/ld:
> ../autoopts/.libs/libopts.a(libopts_la-libopts.o):/tools/autogen/autogen-5.18.16/autoopts/autoopts.h:410:
> multiple definition of `option_usage_fp';
> autogen-ag.o:/tools/autogen/autogen-5.18.16/agen5/../autoopts/autoopts.h:410:
> first defined here
> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> Best regards and STAY SAFE!,
>
> George...
>
>
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> Autogen-users mailing list
> Aut...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/autogen-users
>

[Autogen-users] Build of autogen-5.18.16 on Fedora Core 37

[George R G. <gr...@ya...>]

Howdy,

I'm trying to build this "latest"(?) version on my Fedora Core 37 system and am having trouble (see below). If the development repository is available I'd be willing/eager to use it for the latest source code If you see a benefit to that for you.

Here are my config options:

      96  ./configure --prefix=/usr/lsd/$osname --verbose        \
      97              --with-local-prefix=/usr/lsd/$osname       \
      98              --disable-silent-rules                     \
      99              --enable-dependency-tracking               \
    100              --enable-shared=yes                        \
    101              --enable-static=yes                        \
    102              --enable-fast-install=no                   \
    103              --enable-static-autogen                    \
    104              --enable-snprintfv-install                 \
    105              --with-pic=yes                             \
    106              --with-gnu-ld

Here's what I'm seeing (full build log available on request)::

/bin/bash ../libtool  --tag=CC   --mode=link gcc -I/usr/include/guile/2.2  -g -O2 -Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -export-dynamic -static -no-install  -o autogen  autogen-ag.o ../autoopts/libopts.la ../snprintfv/libsnprintfv.la -lguile-2.2 -lgc -lpthread -ldl   -lm -ldl
libtool: link: gcc -I/usr/include/guile/2.2 -g -O2 -Wno-format-contains-nul -fno-strict-aliasing -o autogen autogen-ag.o -Wl,--export-dynamic  ../autoopts/.libs/libopts.a ../snprintfv/.libs/libsnprintfv.a -lguile-2.2 -lgc -lpthread -lm -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: ../autoopts/.libs/libopts.a(libopts_la-libopts.o):/tools/autogen/autogen-5.18.16/autoopts/autoopts.h:410: multiple definition of `option_usage_fp'; autogen-ag.o:/tools/autogen/autogen-5.18.16/agen5/../autoopts/autoopts.h:410: first defined here
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Best regards and STAY SAFE!,

George...

Re: [Autogen-users] Default for equivalence class?

[Vivien K. <vi...@pl...>]

Hello,

In fact I think I misunderstood the equivalence class, because the
flags-cant would not be handled the way I thought at first.

So for now I am happy with normal options.

Have a nice photography session!

Vivien

Bruce Korb writes:

> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 1:15 AM Vivien Kraus <vi...@pl...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I plan to use flags with equivalence class, however I can't find how to
>> set the default flag.  I need it because I have some flags-cant in each
>> mode, and I would like those to also be enforced in the default mode.
>>
>> Is there a way to do this?
>
> Hi,
>
> No idea. "Default mode" means that you haven't specified the option.
> If you haven't specified the option, it cannot conflict with another option.
> Period. In any event, "equivalence" is equivalent to "--option=type" where
> "type" is some enumeration for the equivalence class, except that you
> can *also* specify an argument. Once one is used, the other members
> of the class are over-ridden or are in conflict. I think it's always
> conflicting,
> but I haven't added an equivalence class option in several years. I'd
> have to go read source code. :) (If you do, let me know and I'll augment
> the description in the manual.)
>
> You should know, I'm retired now and spend my time with photography
> and don't sling code much anymore.
>
> Cheers - Bruce

Re: [Autogen-users] Default for equivalence class?

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 1:15 AM Vivien Kraus <vi...@pl...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I plan to use flags with equivalence class, however I can't find how to
> set the default flag.  I need it because I have some flags-cant in each
> mode, and I would like those to also be enforced in the default mode.
>
> Is there a way to do this?

Hi,

No idea. "Default mode" means that you haven't specified the option.
If you haven't specified the option, it cannot conflict with another option.
Period. In any event, "equivalence" is equivalent to "--option=type" where
"type" is some enumeration for the equivalence class, except that you
can *also* specify an argument. Once one is used, the other members
of the class are over-ridden or are in conflict. I think it's always
conflicting,
but I haven't added an equivalence class option in several years. I'd
have to go read source code. :) (If you do, let me know and I'll augment
the description in the manual.)

You should know, I'm retired now and spend my time with photography
and don't sling code much anymore.

Cheers - Bruce

[Autogen-users] Default for equivalence class?

[Vivien K. <vi...@pl...>]

Hello,

I plan to use flags with equivalence class, however I can't find how to
set the default flag.  I need it because I have some flags-cant in each
mode, and I would like those to also be enforced in the default mode.

Is there a way to do this?

Best regards,

Vivien

Re: [Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Vivien K. <vi...@pl...>]

Thank you, now everything works!

Vivien

Bruce Korb writes:

> On 08/31/2018 10:34 AM, Vivien Kraus wrote:
>> OK so compiling the new version... I get a -Werror=format-overflow in
>> getdefs.c:451:29, where sprintf writes up to 255 bytes in a 253-byte
>> region.  If you add 4 to MAXNAMELEN for def_bf in line 377 (for the
>> storage of the indentation, the ' and the final NUL), gcc does not
>> complain anymore.  Anyway, the tests pass.
>
> Again, you're behind. :) Under Git is a fix for that.
> Interesting it didn't show up with the prior release.
> Anyway, all that code was written before I wrote the
> SPN/BRK macros in autoopts/ag-char-map.h. Don't bother, though,
> your hack is just fine. Anybody using 255 character long names
> deserve what they get anyway. Still, there's a fix.
>
>> Are we talking about the same thing? For autogen version 5.18.16, given
>> example.def:
>
> I probably erased it because I rewrote a bit of the email, but
> earlier today my autogen was not working because guile requires libffi6
> and my new installation installs version 7. Fixed now:
>
>> ==> def.def <==
>> autogen definitions tpl;
>> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
>>
>> i[0]='';
>> i[9]=''; // you have to have "i's" that span the full range
>>
>> example = {
>>   foo  = bar;
>>   size = 5;
>> };
>>
>> ==> tpl.tpl <==
>> [= autogen5 template c =]
>> [= for example =] /* [= foo =] example */
>> /* Now set up the first [=size=] items of [=foo=] */
>> [= for i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (define lim (string->number (get "size"))) (for-to lim) =] > [= foo =][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
>> [= endfor =]
>> [= endfor =]
>
> NOTE: "for-to" requires a numeric argument and "get" always yields a string.
>
>> ==> def.c <==
>>  /* bar example */
>> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
>>
>> bar[0] = 0;
>>
>> bar[1] = 1;
>>
>> bar[2] = 2;
>>
>> bar[3] = 3;
>>
>> bar[4] = 4;
>>
>> bar[5] = 5;
>
> By the way, adding options like:
>    --trace=everything --trace-out=gen.log
>
> can help. It isn't pretty, but you can see where stuff turns south
> (with a little bit of effort, of course).

Re: [Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

On 08/31/2018 10:34 AM, Vivien Kraus wrote:
> OK so compiling the new version... I get a -Werror=format-overflow in
> getdefs.c:451:29, where sprintf writes up to 255 bytes in a 253-byte
> region.  If you add 4 to MAXNAMELEN for def_bf in line 377 (for the
> storage of the indentation, the ' and the final NUL), gcc does not
> complain anymore.  Anyway, the tests pass.

Again, you're behind. :) Under Git is a fix for that.
Interesting it didn't show up with the prior release.
Anyway, all that code was written before I wrote the
SPN/BRK macros in autoopts/ag-char-map.h. Don't bother, though,
your hack is just fine. Anybody using 255 character long names
deserve what they get anyway. Still, there's a fix.

> Are we talking about the same thing? For autogen version 5.18.16, given
> example.def:

I probably erased it because I rewrote a bit of the email, but
earlier today my autogen was not working because guile requires libffi6
and my new installation installs version 7. Fixed now:

> ==> def.def <==
> autogen definitions tpl;
> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
>
> i[0]='';
> i[9]=''; // you have to have "i's" that span the full range
>
> example = {
>   foo  = bar;
>   size = 5;
> };
>
> ==> tpl.tpl <==
> [= autogen5 template c =]
> [= for example =] /* [= foo =] example */
> /* Now set up the first [=size=] items of [=foo=] */
> [= for i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (define lim (string->number (get "size"))) (for-to lim) =] > [= foo =][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
> [= endfor =]
> [= endfor =]

NOTE: "for-to" requires a numeric argument and "get" always yields a string.

> ==> def.c <==
>  /* bar example */
> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
>
> bar[0] = 0;
>
> bar[1] = 1;
>
> bar[2] = 2;
>
> bar[3] = 3;
>
> bar[4] = 4;
>
> bar[5] = 5;

By the way, adding options like:
    --trace=everything --trace-out

Re: [Autogen-users] release signature

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

On 08/31/2018 10:31 AM, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> autogen releases up to 5.8.14 were signed by
> 44A088E295C3A722C450590EC9EF76DEB74EE762, 5.8.16 is signed with
> 3EEE51D1355B8EC40D9F3122495143D05D0712D1. The latter (newer) key is not
> signed by the older one. Could you please do this, and perhaps
> verify/announce that there was a key transition?

Sorry. Can't do it. Lost the old gpg data. However, I'm forwarding this 
to the list.

[Autogen-users] release signature

[Andreas M. <sou...@be...>]

Hello,

autogen releases up to 5.8.14 were signed by
44A088E295C3A722C450590EC9EF76DEB74EE762, 5.8.16 is signed with
3EEE51D1355B8EC40D9F3122495143D05D0712D1. The latter (newer) key is not
signed by the older one. Could you please do this, and perhaps
verify/announce that there was a key transition?

TIA, cu Andreas
-- 
`What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are
so grateful to you.'
`I sew his ears on from time to time, sure'

Re: [Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

On 08/31/2018 10:34 AM, Vivien Kraus wrote:
> OK so compiling the new version... I get a -Werror=format-overflow in
> getdefs.c:451:29, where sprintf writes up to 255 bytes in a 253-byte
> region.  If you add 4 to MAXNAMELEN for def_bf in line 377 (for the
> storage of the indentation, the ' and the final NUL), gcc does not
> complain anymore.  Anyway, the tests pass.

Again, you're behind. :) Under Git is a fix for that.
Interesting it didn't show up with the prior release.
Anyway, all that code was written before I wrote the
SPN/BRK macros in autoopts/ag-char-map.h. Don't bother, though,
your hack is just fine. Anybody using 255 character long names
deserve what they get anyway. Still, there's a fix.

> Are we talking about the same thing? For autogen version 5.18.16, given
> example.def:

I probably erased it because I rewrote a bit of the email, but
earlier today my autogen was not working because guile requires libffi6
and my new installation installs version 7. Fixed now:

> ==> def.def <==
> autogen definitions tpl;
> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
> 
> i[0]='';
> i[9]=''; // you have to have "i's" that span the full range
> 
> example = {
>   foo  = bar;
>   size = 5;
> };
> 
> ==> tpl.tpl <==
> [= autogen5 template c =]
> [= for example =] /* [= foo =] example */
> /* Now set up the first [=size=] items of [=foo=] */
> [= for i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (define lim (string->number (get "size"))) (for-to lim) =] > [= foo =][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
> [= endfor =]
> [= endfor =]

NOTE: "for-to" requires a numeric argument and "get" always yields a string.

> ==> def.c <==
>  /* bar example */
> /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
> 
> bar[0] = 0;
> 
> bar[1] = 1;
> 
> bar[2] = 2;
> 
> bar[3] = 3;
> 
> bar[4] = 4;
> 
> bar[5] = 5;

By the way, adding options like:
    --trace=everything --trace-out=gen.log

can help. It isn't pretty, but you can see where stuff turns south (with 
a little bit of effort, of course).

Re: [Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Vivien K. <vi...@pl...>]

Bruce Korb writes:

> Clearly, you were not using the version I released two days ago. ;)
Exactly.  I discovered the package a few days ago from @fs...@st...'s
toot, but I had still an older version.

OK so compiling the new version... I get a -Werror=format-overflow in
getdefs.c:451:29, where sprintf writes up to 255 bytes in a 253-byte
region.  If you add 4 to MAXNAMELEN for def_bf in line 377 (for the
storage of the indentation, the ' and the final NUL), gcc does not
complain anymore.  Anyway, the tests pass.

>> Now my question about for loops.
>
> Take a peek at line 186 in autoopts/tpl/bits.tpl and look for the loop:
>      FOR bit (for-from 0) (for-by 1) =][=
>
> "bit" is a sparse structured value. It contains a value for "b-name"
> for every valid entry. By checking for existence, it is checking to
> see if there is the current index for "bit" is valid. But you don't care
> about validity of "i", so:
>
> [=FOR i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (for-to (get "size")) \=]
> [=foo=][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
> [=ENDFOR=]
>
> and never reference "i" because "i" is not defined.

Are we talking about the same thing? For autogen version 5.18.16, given
example.def:

autogen definitions example;
example = {
  foo = "bar";
  size = 5;
};

Given example.tpl:

[=AutoGen5 template c =]
[=FOR example=]
/* Now set up the first [=size=] items of [=foo=] */
[=FOR i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (for-to (get "size")) \=]
[=foo=][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
[=ENDFOR=]
[=ENDFOR=]

I still get example.c from `/usr/local/bin/autogen example.def`:

/* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */

and that's all.  No loops.  If I define i = 0 in the .def, then I get
only one line for i = 0.

> NOTE: this will go from 0 thru 5, yielding *six* results.
You're spoiling the fun I intended to have debugging easy things!

Best regards,

Vivien

Re: [Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

Hi,
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:26 AM Vivien Kraus <vi...@pl...> wrote:
> I'm just starting to include autogen in my application.  Everything went
> smoothly, except for a few things: _Noreturn.h that I had to copy from

Clearly, you were not using the version I released two days ago. ;)
Sorry about that.
gnulib changed the noreturn module to require the manual addition of
snippets/_Noreturn.

> Did I miss something?

Nope. It was me.

> Now my question about for loops.
>
> Suppose I'd like to produce (I don't care about empty lines):
>
>     /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
>     bar[0] = 0;
...
>     bar[4] = 4;
>
> when my definitions are:
>
>     autogen definitions example;
>     example = {
>       foo = "bar";
>       size = 5;
>     };
>
> How should I proceed?  I have tried:
>
>     [+ AutoGen5 template c +]
>     [+ for example +]
>     /* Now set up the first [+size+] items of [+foo+] */
>     [+ for i (for-from 0) (for-to (get "size")) +]
>     [+ foo +][[+i+]] = [+i+];
>     [+ endfor +]
>     [+ endfor +]
>
> but the inner "i" loop is not processed.

That looks for all values defined for "i" with indexes in the range
of 0 through 5 (six values). Since "i" does not hold any values
within that range (or any values at all), nothing gets expanded.

> Is there a better way?

Take a peek at line 186 in autoopts/tpl/bits.tpl and look for the loop:
     FOR bit (for-from 0) (for-by 1) =][=

"bit" is a sparse structured value. It contains a value for "b-name"
for every valid entry. By checking for existence, it is checking to
see if there is the current index for "bit" is valid. But you don't care
about validity of "i", so:

[=FOR i (for-from 0) (for-by 1) (for-to (get "size")) \=]
[=foo=][[=(for-index)=]] = [=(for-index)=];
[=ENDFOR=]

and never reference "i" because "i" is not defined.
NOTE: this will go from 0 thru 5, yielding *six* results.

[Autogen-users] A question about for loops

[Vivien K. <vi...@pl...>]

Hello list,

I'm just starting to include autogen in my application.  Everything went
smoothly, except for a few things: _Noreturn.h that I had to copy from
snippets/ to libopts/ after autoreconf, and changing the generated
include guard for the options which happens to match that of (and thus
shadowing) autoopts/options.h (AUTOOPTS_OPTIONS_H_GUARD).  Did I miss
something?

Now my question about for loops.

Suppose I'd like to produce (I don't care about empty lines):

    /* Now set up the first 5 items of bar */
    bar[0] = 0;
    bar[1] = 1;
    bar[2] = 2;
    bar[3] = 3;
    bar[4] = 4;

when my definitions are:

    autogen definitions example;
    example = {
      foo = "bar";
      size = 5;
    };

How should I proceed?  I have tried:

    [+ AutoGen5 template c +]
    [+ for example +]
    /* Now set up the first [+size+] items of [+foo+] */
    [+ for i (for-from 0) (for-to (get "size")) +]
    [+ foo +][[+i+]] = [+i+];
    [+ endfor +]
    [+ endfor +]

but the inner "i" loop is not processed.

The best thing I have come up so far is generate a shell script that
spits out the code:

    [+ AutoGen5 template sh +]
    [+ for example +]
    echo "/* Now set up the first [+size+] items of [+foo+] */"
    for i in $(seq 0 $(expr [+size+] - 1))
    do
        echo "[+foo+][$i] = $i;"
    done
    [+ endfor +]

But I'm not very proud of it.  Is there a better way?

Best regards

Vivien

Re: [Autogen-users] Autogen-users post from dedeco.balaco@yahoo.com requires approval

[Bruce K. <bk...@us...>]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 7:36 AM
<aut...@li...> wrote:
>
> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
> following mailing list posting:
>
>     List:    Aut...@li...
>     From:    ded...@ya...
>     Subject: No documentation in one page HTML? Good option for parts of bashrc?
>     Reason:  Post by non-member to a members-only list

I am temporarily locked out of the admin interface. Should be fixed shortly.

> and located here
>
> https://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/manual/html_node/Quick-Start.html#Quick-Start
>
> I want all these (currently) 6 pages in a single HTML page - an option I
> have seen in many other GNU projects' documentation.

The correct link seems to have atrophied:
https://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/manual/

> =======================
>
> Now, the second part of this message.
>
> Is autoopts a good choice for parts of bashrc? I like Bash very much,

I am unclear about what you are wanting. The autoopts project is designed
for facilitating the processing of options for your own program. BASH
parses its own "Run Command" files. So, yes, it will process initialization/
run command files *for your program*, but not for BASH.

> ... but most of what I have in Bash
> are options of subsets of a complex and hard to find documentation big
> set (like things we may use in PS1). I have similar bashrcs in different
> computers, but without known or controlled differences or adjustments.

Typically, you don't put the kitchen sink into one "bashrc" file.
Instead, you have a directory of shell function libraries which you
source from your bashrc file. You might also consider a shared library,
but that is pretty hard core and likely not worth the effort.

> Is autoopts a good option for having a base bashrc for all of them?
No.
> "base bashrc" that I would keep as the central part of all bashrcs I
> have around - and potentially will be the best and updated starting
> point for a new bashrc, for a new computer I start using. And may also
> be an easier path to safely update all my bashrcs with something new I
> just created in one computer, but makes sense to have it in all the
> Bashrcs (or, at least, most of them).

Set up your base machine and develop a way of distributing your
shell libraries to the other machines. Personally, I NFS export the
library from one machine and import it from others.

Good luck.
Regards, Bruce

[Autogen-users] No documentation in one page HTML? Good option for parts of bashrc?

[Dedeco B. <ded...@ya...>]

Hello,

I just discovered (id est, received) autogen and autoopts in the GNU 
Announcements mailing list. It seems to be a very nice project.

I would like to have easier steps to choose config options for used 
programs, since some of them eventually become critical or having 
frequent use.

I really wanted to see a working concept. But I have not reached or 
found this. What seems to be aimed at that idea is the "quick start 
guide", pointed in

https://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/autoopts.html

and located here

https://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/manual/html_node/Quick-Start.html#Quick-Start

I want all these (currently) 6 pages in a single HTML page - an option I 
have seen in many other GNU projects' documentation.

I would also like to have the option to read in a single page other 
parts of things we browse in https://www.gnu.org/software/autogen/ . 
Clicking the links, using back and forward browsers option, even with 
keyboard shortcuts, is not so good - in my opinion, needs and habits or 
reading things.

=======================

Now, the second part of this message.

Is autoopts a good choice for parts of bashrc? I like Bash very much, 
except for its history serious bug - or, at least, lack of related 
options I can understand and use. As years go passing, my bashrc became 
rather big and fairly complex. Some things are not actually options, of 
course (shell functions, for example), but most of what I have in Bash 
are options of subsets of a complex and hard to find documentation big 
set (like things we may use in PS1). I have similar bashrcs in different 
computers, but without known or controlled differences or adjustments.

Is autoopts a good option for having a base bashrc for all of them? A 
"base bashrc" that I would keep as the central part of all bashrcs I 
have around - and potentially will be the best and updated starting 
point for a new bashrc, for a new computer I start using. And may also 
be an easier path to safely update all my bashrcs with something new I 
just created in one computer, but makes sense to have it in all the 
Bashrcs (or, at least, most of them).

Regards

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to receive a message about the needed actions - or you may please 
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Re: [Autogen-users] 5.18.14?

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

It was tagged in my repo. :) Also, I've been busy. Not a high priority
release. I'll try to announce "shortly". Thank you.
(The tag has been pushed now, too.)
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:49 AM Andreas Metzler <sou...@be...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autogen/ has 5.18.14 tarballs. However there was
> no announcement and the release is not tagged in GIT?
>
> cu Andreas
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[Autogen-users] 5.18.14?

[Andreas M. <sou...@be...>]

Hello,

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/autogen/ has 5.18.14 tarballs. However there was
no announcement and the release is not tagged in GIT?

cu Andreas

Re: [Autogen-users] Use of ctype(3) functions

[Harlan S. <st...@nt...>]

I had similar issues with ctype(3) back in the 90s with NTP.

I very carefully made sure to pre-check all data sent to ctype(3) calls
to make sure they were in the proper "domain".  This was, of course,
back in the K&R days.

As time passed, and as POSIX and related standards came in to play, the
rules seemed to have tightened up, and various folks have "cleaned" the
ctype(3) calls throughout the codebase.  This concerns me, but we
haven't had any bug reports yet.

I'm also wondering what the circumstances might be that would trigger
any potential problems here.

Our QA team will be writing test cases for ctype(3), to make sure it
handles these things properly.

Oh, many years' ago I filed a bug report with gcc to get them to emit a
warning when somebody was using a signed char as an array offset.  It
took a little back-and-forth to make it happen, but the warning was
added.
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[Autogen-users] Use of ctype(3) functions

[Havard E. <he...@un...>]

Hi,

this concerns the use of the various ctype(3) functions in the
autogen code base.  I got redirected here when I tried reporting
this against tcpreplay, they include a copy of your code in their
distribution.

Now, I'm coming to this from NetBSD, and there the ctype(3) man
page has this portion of text:

CAVEATS
     The first argument of these functions is of type int, but only a very
     restricted subset of values are actually valid.  The argument must either
     be the value of the macro EOF (which has a negative value), or must be a
     non-negative value within the range representable as unsigned char.
     Passing invalid values leads to undefined behavior.

This matches up with what the "Single Unix Specification" has to
say about this as well, e.g.

  http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/7908799/xsh/tolower.html

which says

   The tolower() function has as a domain a type int, the value
   of which is representable as an unsigned char or the value of
   EOF. If the argument has any other value, the behaviour is
   undefined.

and similarly for the other ctype functions.

This means that roughly half of the value range of a signed char
represents values which invoke undefined behaviour when supplied
directly to the ctype functions.  And ... most implementations use
"signed char" for "char".  Casting the argument type to "int" (to
comply with the function definition) is also the wrong thing to do,
for obvious reasons.

The right thing to do is to handle EOF separately (if needed), and
in the other cases cast the arguments to the ctype functions to
"unsigned char", and (probably) let the argument promotion rules
take care of the widening of the resulting value to "int".

Now, I've not tried to put together a suggestion for a diff, as
there are quite a number of uses of these functions in the code
base.  I'm just testing the waters to get a sense for how such a
change would be received.  Any comments?

Best regards,

- Håvard

Re: [Autogen-users] agen5/guile-iface.def

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

I have an alternate idea: print a warning on startup if
the Guile version is not "certified".  So, if guile >= 2.1
then print:

    WARNING: AutoGen has not been certified for use
    with the Guile X.X.X library. Please report any
    issues here: https://sourceforge.net/p/autogen/bugs/
    and please attach core dumps and input examples.

On 07/03/17 10:07, Bruce Korb wrote:
> Because back in the deep dark past, Guile would change the way it
> works with every minor revision

Re: [Autogen-users] autogen always crashes on error

[Bruce K. <bru...@gm...>]

With the latest incarnation, you can specify "no-abort" with either
    --no-abort
on the command line, or
    AUTOGEN_NO_ABORT=true
in the environment. The function "cleanup_and_abort()" handles
calls to abort() and those calls are now all guarded via:

diff --git a/agen5/autogen.c b/agen5/autogen.c
index 60703ec2..2140cdce 100644
--- a/agen5/autogen.c
+++ b/agen5/autogen.c
@@ -233,6 +233,9 @@ cleanup_and_abort(int sig)

     if (processing_state == PROC_STATE_ABORTING) {
         exit_cleanup(EXIT_PCLOSE_NOWAIT);
+
+        if (HAVE_OPT(NO_ABORT))
+            exit(AUTOGEN_EXIT_USAGE_ERROR);
         abort();
     }

@@ -282,6 +285,9 @@ cleanup_and_abort(int sig)
 #endif

     exit_cleanup(EXIT_PCLOSE_NOWAIT);
+
+    if (HAVE_OPT(NO_ABORT))
+        exit(AUTOGEN_EXIT_USAGE_ERROR);
     abort();
 }

@@ -484,6 +490,9 @@ ag_abend_at(char const * msg
     if (msg[-1] != NL)
         fputc(NL, stderr);

+    if (HAVE_OPT(NO_ABORT))
+        exit(AUTOGEN_EXIT_USAGE_ERROR);
+
 #ifdef DEBUG_ENABLED
     abort();
 #else

Re: [Autogen-users] agen5/guile-iface.def

[Harlan S. <st...@nt...>]

Bruce,

I've got guile 2.0.9 on the ntp.org machines that used to cause problems
with that upgrade.

OK, on 1 of 2 Solaris machines.  I can beat on the second machine if you
want to upgrade minimum guile requirement to 2.0.

And I just found an old debian machine that's running 1.8.8, but I'm
pretty comfortable thinking that we can retire that machine.

H