Re: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac

[Gale Andrews <gale@au...>]

| From Bill Wharrie <billwh@...> 
| Tue, 25 Oct 2011 12:23:29 -0400
| Subject: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac
> Thanks. I didn't find it because it is called "add version info to  
> log" and is a P5 and DEVEL - FIX MADE. Not likely to get much  
> attention with those flags.

Bill, 

Again, I really hope a QA'er on Mac can give compiling a try. It's a 
big investment in time to set it up, but once you have it going it takes
relatively little time. 

This problem would either have been fixed or promoted by now if
we had been able to test solutions. Thanks for raising it again.  



Gale    


> On 25-Oct-11, at 12:17 PM, Gale Andrews wrote:
> 
> >
> > | From Bill Wharrie <billwh@...>
> > | Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:23:05 -0400
> > | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac
> >> Before I stick my neck out and raise a bug on bugzilla ...
> >>
> >> I see that that pesky "Audacity Information" dialog still exists in
> >> the Oct 25 Mac nightly. It interferes with opening projects and audio
> >> files - see this thread on the forum
> >>
> >> http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=60598&start=50
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > It's already on Bugzilla:
> > http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315
> >
> > but I added a comment about the current Mac issue (if you launch
> > Audacity using "Open with", the .aup or audio file doesn't get  
> > brought in).
> >
> > See the bug report for some options about where to place the Audacity
> > version number in the code. A developer might be able to see a better
> > solution.
> >
> >
> >> Could other Mac users test this please?
> >
> > I guess even if you have this issue, at least a subset of Mac users  
> > will.
> >
> > What we *really* need is someone in QA who can build Audacity on
> > Mac, so we have more flexibility to test patches. This problem would
> > not have languished so long otherwise.  I think it's a really useful
> > enhancement on Windows and Linux to have version number at the
> > top of the log. But on Mac, we have this information dialogue and
> > don't get the version number in the log at all.
> >
> >
> >> If it affects all Macs then I would call it a regression on 1.3.12  
> >> and
> >> worthy of a P1.
> >
> > Well, a P2, anyway.

Re: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac

[Bill Wharrie <billwh@go...>]

Gale:
Thanks. I didn't find it because it is called "add version info to  
log" and is a P5 and DEVEL - FIX MADE. Not likely to get much  
attention with those flags.

-- Bill

On 25-Oct-11, at 12:17 PM, Gale Andrews wrote:

>
> | From Bill Wharrie <billwh@...>
> | Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:23:05 -0400
> | Subject: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac
>> Before I stick my neck out and raise a bug on bugzilla ...
>>
>> I see that that pesky "Audacity Information" dialog still exists in
>> the Oct 25 Mac nightly. It interferes with opening projects and audio
>> files - see this thread on the forum
>>
>> http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=60598&start=50
>
> Bill,
>
> It's already on Bugzilla:
> http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315
>
> but I added a comment about the current Mac issue (if you launch
> Audacity using "Open with", the .aup or audio file doesn't get  
> brought in).
>
> See the bug report for some options about where to place the Audacity
> version number in the code. A developer might be able to see a better
> solution.
>
>
>> Could other Mac users test this please?
>
> I guess even if you have this issue, at least a subset of Mac users  
> will.
>
> What we *really* need is someone in QA who can build Audacity on
> Mac, so we have more flexibility to test patches. This problem would
> not have languished so long otherwise.  I think it's a really useful
> enhancement on Windows and Linux to have version number at the
> top of the log. But on Mac, we have this information dialogue and
> don't get the version number in the log at all.
>
>
>> If it affects all Macs then I would call it a regression on 1.3.12  
>> and
>> worthy of a P1.
>
> Well, a P2, anyway.
>
>
>
>
> Gale
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Re: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac

[Gale Andrews <gale@au...>]

| From Bill Wharrie <billwh@...> 
| Mon, 24 Oct 2011 22:23:05 -0400
| Subject: [Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac
> Before I stick my neck out and raise a bug on bugzilla ...
>
> I see that that pesky "Audacity Information" dialog still exists in  
> the Oct 25 Mac nightly. It interferes with opening projects and audio  
> files - see this thread on the forum
> 
> http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=60598&start=50

Bill,

It's already on Bugzilla: 
http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315

but I added a comment about the current Mac issue (if you launch 
Audacity using "Open with", the .aup or audio file doesn't get brought in). 

See the bug report for some options about where to place the Audacity
version number in the code. A developer might be able to see a better 
solution. 

 
> Could other Mac users test this please?

I guess even if you have this issue, at least a subset of Mac users will.  

What we *really* need is someone in QA who can build Audacity on
Mac, so we have more flexibility to test patches. This problem would 
not have languished so long otherwise.  I think it's a really useful 
enhancement on Windows and Linux to have version number at the 
top of the log. But on Mac, we have this information dialogue and 
don't get the version number in the log at all.  

 
> If it affects all Macs then I would call it a regression on 1.3.12 and  
> worthy of a P1.

Well, a P2, anyway.  




Gale 

[Audacity-quality] Audacity Information dialog on Mac

[Bill Wharrie <billwh@go...>]

Before I stick my neck out and raise a bug on bugzilla ...

I see that that pesky "Audacity Information" dialog still exists in  
the Oct 25 Mac nightly. It interferes with opening projects and audio  
files - see this thread on the forum

http://forum.audacityteam.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=60598&start=50

Could other Mac users test this please?

If it affects all Macs then I would call it a regression on 1.3.12 and  
worthy of a P1.

-- Bill

[Audacity-quality] Cross Fade effects.

[Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@gm...>]

As we all know, the "Cross Fade In" / "Cross Fade Out" effects do not
"cross fade".
I would like to propose replacing the "Cross Fade In" and the "Cross
Fade Out" effects with this effect that does cross-fade (download
link: http://forum.audacityteam.org/download/file.php?id=4199 ).


A brief summary of this effect:

Name:
* Cross Fade...

Main Options:
* Cross Fade (default)
* Fade In
* Fade Out
* Show Help

Other Options:
* The fade shape may be linear, a simple curve, or an "S" curve
(raised sine/cosine)
* The cross-fade length is adjustable between 0.1 and 10 seconds
(longer/shorter cross-fades are possible by text entry).

Default settings:
* Fades-out the initial 5 seconds of the selection and fades-in the
final 5 seconds of the selection, then moves the fade-in section so
that it overlaps with the fade-out section to produce a 5 second
(linear) cross-fade.

A linear cross-fade will often sound like the loudness drops mid way
through the fade, so this effect includes a "curve" control to adjust
the shape of the fade. Increasing the Curve setting will cause the
mid-fade level to be higher (the terminology here is consistent with
that used for the cross-fade slider on a DJ mixer).

The "S Curve" is particularly well suited for fading out songs and
commonly used on professional recordings.

Steve

Re: [Audacity-quality] Which is the correct download for XP/Vista/7 ?

[Gale Andrews <gale@au...>]

| From Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@...> 
| Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:36:30 +0100
| Subject: [Audacity-quality] Which is the correct download for XP/Vista/7 ?
> On the main download page http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_windows
> the link for: Recommended Download Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7: Audacity
> 1.3.13 installer (.exe file, 13.8 MB)
> is http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13.exe
> but on the Google Code page
> http://code.google.com/p/audacity/downloads/list?can=1&q=audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13.exe&colspec=Summary+Filename+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount
> that download is marked as "Deprecated" and the featured download for
> Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7: Audacity 1.3.13 installer is:
> http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13-newerDLLs-and-manifest.exe

Steve,

The change to the "featured" download is because I suggested this 
as a way to accommodate Vaughan's wish to try out the newer 
"9.0.30729.1" msvc*.dll's matched with the "9.0.30729.1" manifest. 
Vaughan said "yes" to that (I think this discussion was on one of the
lists).  

The "recommended" version remains: 
http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13.exe

which most people will obtain. We could not change that because 
it would have meant modifying an existing release which is against 
"policy":
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Release_Process#Policies
 
The "newer" version has had 5796 downloads. Have you seen any 
Forum reports against either version for R6034 errors or other issues 
like failing to launch?  I've seen no problems in recent months.   




Gale 

[Audacity-quality] Which is the correct download for XP/Vista/7 ?

[Steve the Fiddle <stevethefiddle@gm...>]

On the main download page http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/beta_windows
the link for: Recommended Download Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7: Audacity
1.3.13 installer (.exe file, 13.8 MB)
is http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13.exe
but on the Google Code page
http://code.google.com/p/audacity/downloads/list?can=1&q=audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13.exe&colspec=Summary+Filename+Uploaded+Size+DownloadCount
that download is marked as "Deprecated" and the featured download for
Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7: Audacity 1.3.13 installer is:
http://audacity.googlecode.com/files/audacity-win-unicode-1.3.13-newerDLLs-and-manifest.exe

Steve

[Audacity-quality] Fwd: Re: Audacity plug-in compatibility

[Vaughan Johnson <vaughan@au...>]

I ran into the CEO of Izotope at a conference, and followed up by
emailing him, and asked whether they have any problems running their
plugins in Audacity. Here's a thread of email from their QA guy who ran
some tests, Tedd Terry.

For developers, does anybody know offhand whether Audacity has support
for delay compensation in plugins?

For QA folks, any responses to his questions in the last paragraph?


Probably a good idea for us to do this generally, at least with major
plugin developers.


Thanks,
Vaughan



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Audacity plug-in compatibility
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:08:02 -0400
From: Tedd Terry <tterry@...>
To: Vaughan Johnson <vaughan@...>

Sure, go ahead and forward it.  I'm the best contact for any issues
developers encounter with our products.  If anyone wants to run a
quick test, all of our products have an unrestricted 10 day trial
period.  Also bear in mind that I didn't have time for a full sweep so
I haven't checked all of our products in Audacity and I didn't poke
around too hard for latency compensation options... Just in the
General and Effects options.

Thanks!
Quoting Vaughan Johnson <vaughan@...>:

> Thanks so much for that, Tedd.
>
> I'll check on the developer list about delay compensation for plugins. I
> don't think Audacity has it, but I'm not sure. I know we have an overall
> latency compensation capability. If I don't get a definite response
> about delay compensation from a developer, I'll look into the code myself.
>
> Good to hear that they otherwise look pretty good. Didn't have any
> specific issues, but wanted to see if you all knew of any. So it's good
> to know about the delay compensation issue.
>
> You're welcome to join our QA mail list, but probably most of that is
> irrelevant to you. Meantime, feel free to let me know directly, and I
> can post there.
>
> I'll check with our QA team about who might be able to use license(s)
> for testing.
>
> Okay if I just forward your email to the two lists (with different
> questions emphasized for each)?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> - Vaughan Johnson
>
>
> On 10/5/2011 11:06 AM, Tedd Terry (iZotope QA) wrote:
>> Hello Vaughan,
>>
>>
>>
>> I took some time today to do a quick check of at least one of our most
>> recent plug-ins in Audacity 1.3.13-beta.  I fired up the most recent
>> version of Nectar, our vocal processing suite, and did a couple of quick
>> processing checks.  This raised only one red flag: Audacity doesn’t
>> appear to support delay compensation (or doesn’t properly receive our
>> latency reporting), and some of our processing in our plug-ins can
>> induce several thousand samples of delay.
>>
>>
>>
>> Otherwise, our plug-ins look pretty good in Windows (7) and OS X
>> (10.6.8).  Can you please confirm whether or not Audacity has any delay
>> compensation for plug-ins?
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you aware of any specific issues with our plug-ins in Audacity?  Do
>> you need any licenses for your testing?  Are you the best dev contact
>> with the Audacity team for us to contact concerning issues that either
>> we or your team find?
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tedd Terry
>>
>> Quality Assurance
>>
>> iZotope, Inc.
>>
>
>



-- 
Tedd Terry
iZotope, Inc.
Quality Assurance
http://www.izotope.com