Martyn,
 
what happens when I click on the desktop shortcut that I have
for 2.0.4 is that W7 displays the spinning blue- circle for a time
while it fires up Audacity - then Audacity appears on the screen
and the Audacity icon button appears in the taskbar at the same
time.
 
With 2.0.5, clicking on my desktop item causes the icon button
in the taskbar to appear, but Audacity does not get launched
onto the screen (but frustratingly only sometimes) - but clicking
on the taskbar icon that has appeared seems to get Audacity on
to the screen straight away.
 
This behavior is new to 2.0.5 I have never seen this on any earlier
Audacity version - and I've seen quite a few ;-)
 
Peter.
 
Peter Sampson
Tel: +44 (0)1625 524 780
Mob: +44 (0)7732 278 299

From: Martyn Shaw <martynshaw99@gmail.com>
To: Peter Sampson <petersampson48@yahoo.com>; "audacity-devel@lists.sourceforge.net" <audacity-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>; audacity-quality <audacity-quality@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audacity-devel] [Audacity-quality] Audacity 2.0.5rc1 ready for testing!

Thanks for the testing Peter, and for the full reply.

Frustratingly. for me this does not happen.  I have tried launching
Audacity repeatedly with all other windows minimized, by
double-clicking the icon on the desktop, by selecting the icon and
hitting enter and by pinning it to the taskbar and clicking.  It works
here every time.

On timings, win 7 freshly rebooted, about 27s (1 test), subsequent
times about 3s.  XP freshly booted about 6s (1 test), subsequently
about 2s.

What about 2.0.4?  We have that new button in the bar on 2.0.5, does
2.0.4 do the same, if you imagined a button there?

I have no idea what is going on here.

When the problem happens, what does it say on the button?  "Audacity
is starting up..." or "Audacity"?  If you have lots of buttons and
they are too short to tell, hover the mouse over it to see (on 7 at
least).  I cannot think why un-minimising another app would cause
Audacity to do something, but knowing what state it is in may be a clue.

Wishing I could do more here, I can't think of other questions to ask!
Martyn

On 17/10/2013 12:02, Peter Sampson wrote:
> Hi Martyn,
> Yes I'm talking about the Audacity button that appears in that bar
> at the bottom that W7 has.  There are two classes of object in that
> bar BTW - one is effectively a shortcut to launch popular apps the
> other is to manage instances of apps that are running (enables you
> to toggle them on/off the screen or select one instance from among
> many).
> What seems to be happening with 2.0.5 RC1 is that if all running
> apps are minimized and the I launch Audacity I get the button in
> the bar at the bottom (which indicates that Audacity is actually launched)
> but the Audacity app does not appear on the screen. Waiting and
> waiting does not get Audacity to appear on-screen.
> This behavior is moonphase.
> If I then click on any other running application from that bar, or if
> I click on
> the Audacity button in the bottom bar, up pops Audacity on-screen
> This is consistent and not moonphase.
> Similarly if I already have another app up on the screen and then launch
> 2.0.5 RC1 I get both that task button and Audacity appearing on the
> screen.
> This too is consistent and not moonphase.
> HTH,
> Peter.
> Peter Sampson
> Tel: +44 (0)1625 524 780
> Mob: +44 (0)7732 278 299
>
> *From:* Martyn Shaw <martynshaw99@gmail.com>
> *To:* Peter Sampson <petersampson48@yahoo.com>;
> audacity-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; audacity-quality
> <audacity-quality@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:11 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-devel] [Audacity-quality] Audacity 2.0.5rc1
> ready for testing!
>
> Hi
>
> On 16/10/2013 14:38, Peter Sampson wrote:
>  > Testing on W7 Home Premium SP1 - Toshiba Satellite laptop.
>  > I confirm David's report, I too sometimes just get a task button
>  > rather than a full on-screen launch, clicking on the button launches
>  > the app onto the screen ok.  However this is moonphase, I can
>  > ascertain no pattern.
>
> Is this 'task button' the thing that James made visible with r12617, a
> thing in the bar at the bottom (or side, top, that's configurable, I
> know) of win 7 that shows the apps running?  Sorry, I don't know what
> it's called right now.  It says 'Audacity is starting up...'.
>
> Audacity can take a variable length of time to start, here at least,
> and now while I'm waiting I see this iconized window.  If I click on
> it that might correspond to when the full window loads, or it might
> not, depending on luck/timing.  Does that account for the 'moonphase'
> thing?  (And I hate that term 'moonphase'!  Whatever happened to
> 'apparently random' or 'I don't understand'?.)
>
> I have not tested this very much at all, but Audacity seems to start
> faster the second time I run it than the first.  This may again
> contribute to 'apparently random' effects.
>
> Before 2.0.5, did you just wait, listening to your drive whirring
> away, and now you see an on-screen thing that does not do as you expect?
>
> Just a thought.
> Martyn
>
>  > Apart from that I have been giving 20.05 RC1 a thorough workout
>  > through my two major workflows and all seems well.
>  > 1)  TT=>Edirol UA-1EX soundcard=>PC with host set to WDS
>  > LP recorded fine and subsequent processing (including 32-bit export
>  > for processing through ClickRepair and re-importing into Audacity) to
>  > production WAVs went fine.
>  > 2) Onboard Realtek soundcard - host set to WASAPI loopback
>  > recording from dublincityfm.ie  also recorded fine and subsequent
>  > processing to extract a few tracks from the show to export as WAVs
>  > all went fine.
>  > 3) I deliberately "crashed " an open Audacity project with Task Manager
>  > restarting Audacity recovered the project properly - temp files deleted
>  > properly on exit.
>  > 4) I also repeated the recent tests, same audio clip, that I did for
>  > Leland
>  > when we had clicks/bumps at 5.5 second intervals - recorded properly
>  > with no clicks/thumps.
>  > Peter
>  > *From:* David Bailes <drbailes@googlemail.com
> <mailto:drbailes@googlemail.com>>
>  > *To:* audacity-quality <audacity-quality@lists.sourceforge.net
> <mailto:audacity-quality@lists.sourceforge.net>>
>  > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:09 AM
>  > *Subject:* Re: [Audacity-quality] Audacity 2.0.5rc1 ready for testing!
>  >
>  > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Vaughan Johnson
>  > <vaughan@audacityteam.org <mailto:vaughan@audacityteam.org>
> <mailto:vaughan@audacityteam.org <mailto:vaughan@audacityteam.org>>>
> wrote:
>  >
>  >    Audacity 2.0.5rc1 is ready for testing!
>  >
>  >    All builds are posted at
>  >
> https://code.google.com/p/audacity/downloads/list?can=2&q=%272.0.5rc1%27.
>  >
>  >    Please test away.
>  >
>  >
>  > I've had a look at the installed version on windows 7 and 8, both
> 64bit.
>  >
>  > There's a problem on starting audacity:
>  > - on windows 8, on starting audacity I either get just a taskbar
>  > button and no window, or a taskbar button and a window which isn't the
>  > focus.
>  > - on windows 7, initially I just got a task button, but after a few
>  > more goes, audacity opened normally.
>  >
>  >
>  > David.
>  >
>  >
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