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Re: [Astlinux-users] New Protectli hardware
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From: Lonnie A. <li...@lo...> - 2025-05-08 02:09:42
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I suppose you could compare the number of NICs on the box with the number in the .rules file.
Or simply remove the .rules file on shutdown. :-)
Lonnie
> On May 7, 2025, at 8:37 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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> Thanks Lonnie
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> Couldn’t you also check for a difference in the number of NIC’s?
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> Regards
> Michael Knill
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> From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
> Date: Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 11:32 am
> To: AstLinux Users Mailing List <ast...@li...>
> Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] New Protectli hardware
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> The test for "if the MAC’s are different" might be more difficult than you imagine as the USB drive could be plugged into different boxes with a different number of NICs.
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> Lonnie
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> > On May 7, 2025, at 7:02 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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> > Thanks Lonnie
> > What about a script that does the check on startup in rc.elocal for instance and if the MAC’s are different it deletes the file and reboots itself?
> > Regards
> > Michael Knill
> > From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
> > Date: Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 12:48 am
> > To: AstLinux Users Mailing List <ast...@li...>
> > Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] New Protectli hardware
> > > You could build a few of them (USB) in advance and just plug them into whatever hardware you happen to use. Do you think I could write a script that checks the NIC MAC’s on bootup and automatically regenerates 70-persistent-net.rules if they are different?
> >
> > Not on bootup, the 70-persistent-net.rules file is used early when udev is initiated and NIC modules loaded.
> >
> > You could create a /mnt/kd/rc.local.stop shell script (make executable)
> > -- /mnt/kd/rc.local.stop --
> > #!/bin/sh
> >
> > RULES_FILE="/mnt/asturw/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules"
> >
> > ## Remove 70-persistent-net.rules on shutdown
> > if [ -f "$RULES_FILE" ]; then
> > rm "$RULES_FILE"
> > fi
> > --
> >
> > So, if the system was shutdown cleanly, this would work.
> >
> > Lonnie
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> > > On May 6, 2025, at 8:57 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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> > > Yes I will likely use NVMe but the USB did seem attractive. You could build a few of them in advance and just plug them into whatever hardware you happen to use. Do you think I could write a script that checks the NIC MAC’s on bootup and automatically regenerates 70-persistent-net.rules if they are different?
> > > Regards
> > > Michael Knill
> > > From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
> > > Date: Wednesday, 7 May 2025 at 6:03 am
> > > To: AstLinux Users Mailing List <ast...@li...>
> > > Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] New Protectli hardware
> > > A reminder, whenever switching an AstLinux drive from box to box, be-it SATA, NVMe or USB, be sure to remove the file:
> > > --
> > > /mnt/asturw/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> > > --
> > > before shutdown, then when paced into the new box it will be auto-generated from the new box NIC MACs.
> > >
> > > BTW, I tested an AstLinux box with only a "SAMSUNG FIT Plus 3.1 USB Flash Drive, 128GB" as storage. It worked as expected, about as fast as a M.2 SATA drive. While running, I removed the USB drive and re-inserted it, while a reboot was needed to recover, no data loss was detected.
> > >
> > > All in all, I would recommend an NVMe drive with the "V1210 – 2 Port Intel® N5105" over a USB drive. (AstLinux 1.5.10)
> > >
> > > Lonnie
> > >
> > >
> > > > On May 5, 2025, at 8:34 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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> > > > Thanks Lonnie for the info. Yes I was aware Netgate had some eMMC issues.
> > > > Interesting concept using a USB Flash drive for storage. This could be quite handy for field hardware replacement e.g. just move across the drive to the new hardware.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Michael Knill
> > > > From: Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>
> > > > Date: Monday, 5 May 2025 at 12:46 pm
> > > > To: AstLinux Users Mailing List <ast...@li...>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] New Protectli hardware
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > In mid-2020 I purchased a "Protectli FW4B CPU J3160 NIC x4" with Coreboot, and it worked with AstLinux out of the box.
> > > >
> > > > The "V1210 – 2 Port Intel® N5105" should work (test to be sure) with the just released AstLinux 1.5.10 as it uses M.2 NVMe.
> > > >
> > > > AstLinux does not support eMMC storage (kernel CONFIG_MMC disabled). Supporting eMMC has been discussed, but being non-removable, slowish and typically of poor quality, it was never a production solution in my mind. [1]
> > > >
> > > > I recently purchased a "Silicon Power 128GB NVMe M.2" for $19 USD, a far better choice than non-removable eMMC.
> > > >
> > > > Even quality (stubby) USB storage "SAMSUNG FIT Plus 3.1 USB Flash Drive, 128GB" is $15 USD would be better than eMMC ... this would work with pre-1.5.10 AstLinux. With some caveats [2].
> > > >
> > > > Lonnie
> > > >
> > > > [1] I have read where some Netgate appliances stopped booting because after a couple years the eMMC failed.
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:boot-usb-storage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On May 4, 2025, at 7:59 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All
> > > > > There is new Protecli hardware (https://protectli.com/product/v1210/) which I was wondering if it was compatible with Astlinux? I would be wanting to use the onboard 32G eMMC.
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