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Re: [Astlinux-devel] Astlinux on Azure
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From: Michael K. <mic...@ip...> - 2021-04-02 03:38:32
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Yeah sorry. I meant that there are enough differences e.g. it wont work!
Regards
Michael Knill
On 2/4/21, 8:17 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:
I said "... genx86_64-serial board does *not* have ...", not sure if that was clear from your reply.
Lonnie
> On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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> That will do it! Thanks all.
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> Regards
> Michael Knill
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> On 2/4/21, 7:41 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:
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> The genx86_64-serial board does not have a kernel built for HyperV.
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> Lonnie
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>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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>> Yes maybe broken was a bit harsh and I agree that it will not preclude us from using Azure as it's a nice to have only.
>> Pretty sure that a Serial Console is the only option for Azure (believe it or not).
>>
>> So are there enough differences between the genx86_64-vm and genx86_64-serial board types to not use the serial board type in Azure assuming its built in HyperV?
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>> Regards
>> Michael Knill
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>> On 2/4/21, 12:09 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:
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>> Hi Michael,
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>> "broken" seems a bit harsh, possibly I did not explain this missing-feature properly ...
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>> AstLinux 1.3.10 through 1.4.2 ignores any user edits to the /etc/inittab file, rather it always uses the default /etc/inittab file.
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>> Among other things, the /etc/inittab sets:
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>> 1) A serial console at 115200 baud for the genx86_64-serial board type.
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>> 2) A video console for genx86_64 and genx86_64-vm board types.
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>> The default /etc/inittab is what most users want, which is generated according to the board type.
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>> There are a couple special cases where editing the /etc/inittab via unionfs is desired:
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>> 3) Set the serial console baud rate to something other than 115200 baud (setconsole-speed-tty).
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>> 4) Add a serial console for a genx86_64 or genx86_64-vm board type.
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>> For over 9 months this missing-feature was not noticed, so #3 or #4 must not be commonly used. I have a serial console added to a Linode VM, but haven't used it in 9 months ... so I did not notice.
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>> Michael, I'm happy you noticed :-) The project thanks you.
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>> Like David hinted to, I find it hard to believe an Azure VM does not support a web-based video console (ex. noVNC). Possibly the lacking of #4 is not a blocker for you ?
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>> Lonnie
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>>> On Apr 1, 2021, at 12:35 AM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
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>>> Bummer. Thanks Lonnie. We will need to wait for the next release and hope we don't break it in the meantime!
>>> I haven’t checked but is the serial board type broken as well? If not then could I build it with this?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Michael Knill
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>>> On 1/4/21, 2:54 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:
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>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I committed a fix in the upstream repo:
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>>> https://github.com/astlinux-project/astlinux/commit/79576e557d0d18b10d452e6c9211c4379f7e68f9
>>>
>>> A side-effect to the FUSE unionfs switch left any changes to /etc/inittab ignored since ASTURW is now mounted after
>>> the initrd runs, and the initrd calls /sbin/init.
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>>> This would also fix issues where the serial console baud rate was not the default 115200 by using the setconsole-speed-tty command.
>>>
>>> Michael, the bad news for you, implementing the new initrd image would not be easy using the older AstLinux 1.3.10, barring building you own image.
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>>> Someone could build a AstLinux 1.3.10 initrd.img with this fix (common across all board types), but packaging it would be somewhat tedious.
>>>
>>> Lonnie
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>>>
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>>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 3:29 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...> wrote:
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>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, I have an issue with linode's lish as well, no ttyS0 getty, and manually trying to start it ...
>>>>
>>>> linode ~ # /sbin/getty -L 19200 /dev/ttyS0 xterm-color
>>>> getty: setsid: Operation not permitted
>>>>
>>>> Ok, this could be related to the change from kernel unionfs to FUSE unionfs in AstLinux 1.3.10 . It looks like any changes to /etc/inittab via FUSE unionfs are setup after "/sbin/init" which is called via the initrd /linuxrc script.
>>>>
>>>> Let me do some testing and think about how to fix this. Hopefully.
>>>>
>>>> Lonnie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 2:26 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Group
>>>>>
>>>>> In my search to find a reliable cloud provider, I'm now going to be putting a number of Astlinux boxes in Azure. We have now fully documented the process so will get an article up once tested again.
>>>>> One thing we cant get going but did previously is the Serial Console. I changed the "Out-of-Band Console Access" as per the Linode article below but it still doesn't work e.g. it connects to the tty but no output.
>>>>> I am using the 1.3.10 VM image.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas? Has something changed in 1.3.10?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/4/20, 11:48 am, "Michael Knill" <mic...@ip...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yay serial console is now working.
>>>>> Thanks for that. I figured it would be easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Michael Knill
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/4/20, 9:38 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lo...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> Great to hear !
>>>>>
>>>>> If their serial setup is anything similar to Linode's
>>>>>
>>>>> https://doc.astlinux-project.org/userdoc:hosted_guest_vm_linode
>>>>>
>>>>> Search for "Out-of-Band Console Access"
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically a simple edit of the /etc/inittab file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also would you like me to write up an article for the build process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it pretty straight-forward? sure, any helpful documentation is great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Michael Knill <mic...@ip...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have put my office Astlinux system on Azure to test it out. Seems to be working fine. I will let it run for a week or so to see how it goes and report back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One annoying thing is that Azure is looking for a serial console but I have installed the vm board type. Is there any way I can set this up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also would you like me to write up an article for the build process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Michael Knill
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