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From: Nedi <ne...@gm...> - 2007-04-27 20:39:34
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Hi all I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 should I use bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB my HP Thin Client PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB best regards nedi |
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From: Marcus <li...@wo...> - 2007-04-30 11:57:32
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On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 > should I use bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB > my HP Thin Client PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries for trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you would have a little more free space I guess. I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. Marcus |
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From: Kristian K. <kri...@gm...> - 2007-04-30 14:36:22
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On 4/30/07, Marcus <li...@wo...> wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > > I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 > > should I use bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB > > my HP Thin Client PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB > > When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB > free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image > the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries for > trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you would > have a little more free space I guess. > > I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff > first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. > > Marcus > Marcus, The rest of the space is not wasted... Distributing an image makes AstLinux easier to install but that is not the only way it can be installed... Here are a couple of strategies to reclaim your "wasted" space: 1) Create another partition. You can edit the partition table on your flash card to create another partition to use as either a keydisk or anything else you want. 2) Partition the drive yourself using the files from the image: (on another Linux system) mkdir /mnt/image mount -t ext2 -o loop,offset=32256 AstLinux-image.img /mnt/image fdisk [your flash device] (create a partition of your liking) mke2fs [your flash device partition] mkdir /mnt/flash cp -a /mnt/image/* /mnt/flash/ umount /mnt/image /mnt/flash (install GRUB on your flash device) Boot! 3) Resize the image using something like GParted. I haven't ever done this with an AstLinux image, but I have used gparted with great success in the past. 4) Build your own image and make anything you want. The other developers and I work very hard to make the development environment available. There has been a lot of progress (especially in trunk) on making the development environment easier to use and more reliable (I now test it across three different systems regularly). To answer the original question... No, for 0.4.5 you will need a 64mb flash card. I am sorry about this but we really needed to get the release out (with various Asterisk security problems, etc) and we didn't want to remove any features. I spent quite a bit of time last week working on the new bootloader for 0.5. From what it looks like now, it should be possible to get the current image into 32mb (with bootloader), although I can't recommend it because it won't leave you much room for upgrading... There didn't seem to be much demand to keep AstLinux under 32mb... If there is, perhaps I can start to make a "micro" version (for lack of a better name) that would always fit in the original 32mb. -- Kristian Kielhofner |
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From: <ipf...@gm...> - 2007-05-02 17:58:34
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=20 Hi Kristian And others! I=B4m thinking in use the development env ... To set up a gumstix that i = have used here...I know that is a bit complex with all that dependencies and etc.. Some indication in the best distro to use??... I don=B4t want to lose = the hair i have left.. :-) Regards=20 Miklos -----Mensagem original----- De: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] Em nome de = Kristian Kielhofner Enviada: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 11:36 Para: li...@wo...; AstLinux Users Mailing List Assunto: Re: [Astlinux-users] Can I use CF Card 32MB for Astlinux 0.4.5 On 4/30/07, Marcus <li...@wo...> wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > > I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 should I use=20 > > bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB my HP Thin Client=20 > > PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB > > When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB=20 > free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image=20 > the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries=20 > for trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you=20 > would have a little more free space I guess. > > I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff=20 > first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. > > Marcus > Marcus, The rest of the space is not wasted... Distributing an image makes AstLinux easier to install but that is not = the only way it can be installed... Here are a couple of strategies to = reclaim your "wasted" space: 1) Create another partition. You can edit the partition table on your flash card to create another partition to use as either a keydisk or anything else you want. 2) Partition the drive yourself using the files from the image: (on another Linux system) mkdir /mnt/image mount -t ext2 -o loop,offset=3D32256 AstLinux-image.img /mnt/image fdisk = [your flash device] (create a partition of your liking) mke2fs [your flash = device partition] mkdir /mnt/flash cp -a /mnt/image/* /mnt/flash/ umount = /mnt/image /mnt/flash (install GRUB on your flash device) Boot! 3) Resize the image using something like GParted. I haven't ever done = this with an AstLinux image, but I have used gparted with great success in = the past. 4) Build your own image and make anything you want. The other = developers and I work very hard to make the development environment available. = There has been a lot of progress (especially in trunk) on making the = development environment easier to use and more reliable (I now test it across three different systems regularly). To answer the original question... No, for 0.4.5 you will need a 64mb flash card. I am sorry about this but we really needed to get the = release out (with various Asterisk security problems, etc) and we didn't want to remove any features. I spent quite a bit of time last week working on the new bootloader = for 0.5. From what it looks like now, it should be possible to get the = current image into 32mb (with bootloader), although I can't recommend it because = it won't leave you much room for upgrading... There didn't seem to be much demand to keep AstLinux under 32mb... If there is, perhaps I can start to make a "micro" version (for lack of = a better name) that would always fit in the original 32mb. -- Kristian Kielhofner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... |
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From: Niksa B. <nik...@lu...> - 2007-05-02 18:10:44
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I am no expert, but I believe that host distro is arbitrary... you can
use whichever you like the best.<br>
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Hi Kristian And others!
I´m thinking in use the development env ... To set up a gumstix that i have
used here...I know that is a bit complex with all that dependencies and
etc..
Some indication in the best distro to use??... I don´t want to lose the hair
i have left.. :-)
Regards
Miklos
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De: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ast...@li...">ast...@li...</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ast...@li...">mailto:ast...@li...</a>] Em nome de Kristian
Kielhofner
Enviada: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 11:36
Para: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:li...@wo...">li...@wo...</a>; AstLinux Users Mailing List
Assunto: Re: [Astlinux-users] Can I use CF Card 32MB for Astlinux 0.4.5
On 4/30/07, Marcus <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:li...@wo..."><li...@wo...></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 should I use
bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB my HP Thin Client
PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB
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<pre wrap="">When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB
free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image
the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries
for trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you
would have a little more free space I guess.
I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff
first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go.
Marcus
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Marcus,
The rest of the space is not wasted...
Distributing an image makes AstLinux easier to install but that is not the
only way it can be installed... Here are a couple of strategies to reclaim
your "wasted" space:
1) Create another partition. You can edit the partition table on your
flash card to create another partition to use as either a keydisk or
anything else you want.
2) Partition the drive yourself using the files from the image:
(on another Linux system)
mkdir /mnt/image
mount -t ext2 -o loop,offset=32256 AstLinux-image.img /mnt/image fdisk [your
flash device] (create a partition of your liking) mke2fs [your flash device
partition] mkdir /mnt/flash cp -a /mnt/image/* /mnt/flash/ umount /mnt/image
/mnt/flash (install GRUB on your flash device)
Boot!
3) Resize the image using something like GParted. I haven't ever done this
with an AstLinux image, but I have used gparted with great success in the
past.
4) Build your own image and make anything you want. The other developers
and I work very hard to make the development environment available. There
has been a lot of progress (especially in trunk) on making the development
environment easier to use and more reliable (I now test it across three
different systems regularly).
To answer the original question... No, for 0.4.5 you will need a 64mb
flash card. I am sorry about this but we really needed to get the release
out (with various Asterisk security problems, etc) and we didn't want to
remove any features.
I spent quite a bit of time last week working on the new bootloader for
0.5. From what it looks like now, it should be possible to get the current
image into 32mb (with bootloader), although I can't recommend it because it
won't leave you much room for upgrading...
There didn't seem to be much demand to keep AstLinux under 32mb...
If there is, perhaps I can start to make a "micro" version (for lack of a
better name) that would always fit in the original 32mb.
--
Kristian Kielhofner
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From: Darrick H. <dha...@dj...> - 2007-05-02 18:13:28
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Niksa Baldun wrote: > I am no expert, but I believe that host distro is arbitrary... you can > use whichever you like the best. > Niksa Baldun > While that is true, most of the development has been done with CentOS as the host distro. As long as you have the correct tools installed, you should be able to use any distro. Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com |
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From: Kristian K. <kri...@gm...> - 2007-05-02 18:25:48
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On 5/2/07, Darrick Hartman <dha...@dj...> wrote: > Niksa Baldun wrote: > > I am no expert, but I believe that host distro is arbitrary... you can > > use whichever you like the best. > > Niksa Baldun > > > While that is true, most of the development has been done with CentOS as > the host distro. As long as you have the correct tools installed, you > should be able to use any distro. > > Darrick > Very true. I routinely test and build the dev environment (trunk only) on CentOS 4.4, Ubuntu Feisty and Ubuntu Dapper. Using multiple distros and hardware combinations has exposed several bugs that I wouldn't have found otherwise. I encourage users to use their favorite distro and report on any problems they have. I have also added a dependency checker that will check your host system and make sure you have everything installed. It's a work in progress, but it tests for almost everything used in trunk. -- Kristian Kielhofner |
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From: Gary G. H. <ghe...@co...> - 2007-05-02 18:18:33
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I have been told previously that most of the fellows involved with development are using CENTOS ... When qustions about various = dependencies have come up, they typically point to solutions available to CENTOS ...=20 While I am sure other distros will work fine (I have done it under = Gentoo and Debian) it seems that CENTOS will be the easiest one for you to get = a little help with if you need it ... So if you are neutral on what = distro, make your life simple and do a CENTOS box ... G.Hendershot -----Original Message----- From: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] On Behalf Of ipf...@gm... Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:58 PM To: 'AstLinux Users Mailing List' Subject: [Astlinux-users] DISTRO TO USE DEV ENVIROMENT =20 Hi Kristian And others! I=B4m thinking in use the development env ... To set up a gumstix that i = have used here...I know that is a bit complex with all that dependencies and etc.. Some indication in the best distro to use??... I don=B4t want to lose = the hair i have left.. :-) Regards=20 Miklos -----Mensagem original----- De: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] Em nome de = Kristian Kielhofner Enviada: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 11:36 Para: li...@wo...; AstLinux Users Mailing List Assunto: Re: [Astlinux-users] Can I use CF Card 32MB for Astlinux 0.4.5 On 4/30/07, Marcus <li...@wo...> wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > > I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 should I use=20 > > bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB my HP Thin Client=20 > > PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB > > When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB=20 > free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image=20 > the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries=20 > for trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you=20 > would have a little more free space I guess. > > I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff=20 > first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. > > Marcus > Marcus, The rest of the space is not wasted... Distributing an image makes AstLinux easier to install but that is not = the only way it can be installed... Here are a couple of strategies to = reclaim your "wasted" space: 1) Create another partition. You can edit the partition table on your flash card to create another partition to use as either a keydisk or anything else you want. 2) Partition the drive yourself using the files from the image: (on another Linux system) mkdir /mnt/image mount -t ext2 -o loop,offset=3D32256 AstLinux-image.img /mnt/image fdisk = [your flash device] (create a partition of your liking) mke2fs [your flash = device partition] mkdir /mnt/flash cp -a /mnt/image/* /mnt/flash/ umount = /mnt/image /mnt/flash (install GRUB on your flash device) Boot! 3) Resize the image using something like GParted. I haven't ever done = this with an AstLinux image, but I have used gparted with great success in = the past. 4) Build your own image and make anything you want. The other = developers and I work very hard to make the development environment available. = There has been a lot of progress (especially in trunk) on making the = development environment easier to use and more reliable (I now test it across three different systems regularly). To answer the original question... No, for 0.4.5 you will need a 64mb flash card. I am sorry about this but we really needed to get the = release out (with various Asterisk security problems, etc) and we didn't want to remove any features. I spent quite a bit of time last week working on the new bootloader = for 0.5. From what it looks like now, it should be possible to get the = current image into 32mb (with bootloader), although I can't recommend it because = it won't leave you much room for upgrading... There didn't seem to be much demand to keep AstLinux under 32mb... If there is, perhaps I can start to make a "micro" version (for lack of = a better name) that would always fit in the original 32mb. -- Kristian Kielhofner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... |
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From: <ipf...@gm...> - 2007-05-02 20:28:08
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Ok! "make your life simple and do a CENTOS box" A simple life is the only thing i need :-) Tanks for all. Miklos=20 -----Mensagem original----- De: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] Em nome de Gary G. Hendershot Enviada: quarta-feira, 2 de maio de 2007 15:19 Para: 'AstLinux Users Mailing List' Assunto: Re: [Astlinux-users] DISTRO TO USE DEV ENVIROMENT I have been told previously that most of the fellows involved with development are using CENTOS ... When qustions about various = dependencies have come up, they typically point to solutions available to CENTOS ...=20 While I am sure other distros will work fine (I have done it under = Gentoo and Debian) it seems that CENTOS will be the easiest one for you to get = a little help with if you need it ... So if you are neutral on what = distro, make your life simple and do a CENTOS box ... G.Hendershot -----Original Message----- From: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] On Behalf Of ipf...@gm... Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:58 PM To: 'AstLinux Users Mailing List' Subject: [Astlinux-users] DISTRO TO USE DEV ENVIROMENT =20 Hi Kristian And others! I=B4m thinking in use the development env ... To set up a gumstix that i = have used here...I know that is a bit complex with all that dependencies and etc.. Some indication in the best distro to use??... I don=B4t want to lose = the hair i have left.. :-) Regards=20 Miklos -----Mensagem original----- De: ast...@li... [mailto:ast...@li...] Em nome de = Kristian Kielhofner Enviada: segunda-feira, 30 de abril de 2007 11:36 Para: li...@wo...; AstLinux Users Mailing List Assunto: Re: [Astlinux-users] Can I use CF Card 32MB for Astlinux 0.4.5 On 4/30/07, Marcus <li...@wo...> wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > > I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 should I use=20 > > bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB my HP Thin Client=20 > > PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB > > When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB=20 > free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image=20 > the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries=20 > for trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you=20 > would have a little more free space I guess. > > I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff=20 > first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. > > Marcus > Marcus, The rest of the space is not wasted... Distributing an image makes AstLinux easier to install but that is not = the only way it can be installed... Here are a couple of strategies to = reclaim your "wasted" space: 1) Create another partition. You can edit the partition table on your flash card to create another partition to use as either a keydisk or anything else you want. 2) Partition the drive yourself using the files from the image: (on another Linux system) mkdir /mnt/image mount -t ext2 -o loop,offset=3D32256 AstLinux-image.img /mnt/image fdisk = [your flash device] (create a partition of your liking) mke2fs [your flash = device partition] mkdir /mnt/flash cp -a /mnt/image/* /mnt/flash/ umount = /mnt/image /mnt/flash (install GRUB on your flash device) Boot! 3) Resize the image using something like GParted. I haven't ever done = this with an AstLinux image, but I have used gparted with great success in = the past. 4) Build your own image and make anything you want. The other = developers and I work very hard to make the development environment available. = There has been a lot of progress (especially in trunk) on making the = development environment easier to use and more reliable (I now test it across three different systems regularly). To answer the original question... No, for 0.4.5 you will need a 64mb flash card. I am sorry about this but we really needed to get the = release out (with various Asterisk security problems, etc) and we didn't want to remove any features. I spent quite a bit of time last week working on the new bootloader = for 0.5. From what it looks like now, it should be possible to get the = current image into 32mb (with bootloader), although I can't recommend it because = it won't leave you much room for upgrading... There didn't seem to be much demand to keep AstLinux under 32mb... If there is, perhaps I can start to make a "micro" version (for lack of = a better name) that would always fit in the original 32mb. -- Kristian Kielhofner -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------= This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - = the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. = Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Astlinux-users mailing list Ast...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-users Donations to support AstLinux are graciously accepted via PayPal to pa...@kr.... |
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From: Darrick H. <dha...@dj...> - 2007-04-30 14:36:36
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Marcus wrote: > On Friday 27 April 2007 22:41, Nedi wrote: > >> I'm planing to upgrade my astlinux 0.3.0 to 0.4.5 >> should I use bigger CF Card or can i use the old CF with 32 MB >> my HP Thin Client PC dont like bigger CF than 32 MB >> > > When I did a "df" on astlinux 0.45 there were about 61MB used and 5MB > free on the CF card. I used a 128MB card, but since this is an image > the rest of the space is "wasted". I had added a few small binaries for > trying pppoe which is still a mystery to me, but normally you would > have a little more free space I guess. > > I doubt you will get by with a 32MB card unless you remove some stuff > first. The developers might be able to tell you what can go. > The short answer is you should use a larger compact flash card. Long answer is it's nearly impossible to buy anything smaller than 256MB new. The image size did increase to slightly under 61MB. We added several useful utilities. We felt it was better to increase the size of the image and include these new tools rather than keep the size down. It's still quite small and you can always download the development environment and build your own smaller image with several things stripped out. Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com |
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