From: Carla S. <ca...@br...> - 2007-01-04 17:38:18
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I don't want to start a stupid flamewar, so I'm going to list a few reasons why HTML mails suck, especially for mailing lists, then go away: 1. HTML adds nothing useful to the content, just lard 2. It's primarily a spam and malware vector. Not so much as it used to be, but it's still enough of a problem that for most of my customers I run Mimedefang and other tools to strip tags and attachments. All kinds of fun things lurk inside HTML spams, like Web bugs and download links to more malware. It's so much fun wasting billable hours on junk like that 3. Microsoft HTML is the worst offender- it rarely renders correctly on non-Microsoft mail clients, so all you see are masses of tags with the message buried somewhere deep inside 4. It sucks to read in text mail clients 5. It doesn't render in Web archives, so again all you see are masses of tags surrounding the actual messages 6. Text is universal and can be read by anyone anywhere That's why I don't like HTML email, and usually bitbucket it. Obviously I'm not the boss of anyone, and what people choose to use is up to them. 'Nuff said, and I shall now grumble quietly to myself. :) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
From: olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...> - 2007-01-04 18:05:29
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did you see the green text on my first mail? no, you didn't, because you are focused against microsoft and so on(like=20 html mails). your problem is your and only your, the mails are sended from=20 thunderbird, not from a microsoft software. just for now, forget me and just have a look at the mail archives, you=20 will see a lot of my unreadable mails. also, you will rarely see microsoft addicts on this list, afaik,=20 astlinux is not really a microsoft addicts software. as far as I have seen, many more questions from you than answers. then please, stop that now and be kind, better for all. kind regards, Olivier ps: i will not answer to any further attacks Carla Schroder a =E9crit : > I don't want to start a stupid flamewar, so I'm going to list a few rea= sons=20 > why HTML mails suck, especially for mailing lists, then go away: > > 1. HTML adds nothing useful to the content, just lard > 2. It's primarily a spam and malware vector. Not so much as it used to = be, but=20 > it's still enough of a problem that for most of my customers I run Mime= defang=20 > and other tools to strip tags and attachments. All kinds of fun things = lurk=20 > inside HTML spams, like Web bugs and download links to more malware. It= 's so=20 > much fun wasting billable hours on junk like that > 3. Microsoft HTML is the worst offender- it rarely renders correctly on= =20 > non-Microsoft mail clients, so all you see are masses of tags with the=20 > message buried somewhere deep inside > 4. It sucks to read in text mail clients > 5. It doesn't render in Web archives, so again all you see are masses o= f tags=20 > surrounding the actual messages > 6. Text is universal and can be read by anyone anywhere > > That's why I don't like HTML email, and usually bitbucket it. Obviously= I'm=20 > not the boss of anyone, and what people choose to use is up to them. 'N= uff=20 > said, and I shall now grumble quietly to myself. :) > > =20 |
From: Darrick H. <dha...@dj...> - 2007-01-04 19:50:45
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> did you see the green text on my first mail? > no, you didn't, because you are focused against microsoft and so on(lik= e > html mails). > your problem is your and only your, the mails are sended from > thunderbird, not from a microsoft software. Oliver, I was trying to stay out of this, but I have to agree with Carla on this one. HTML email has no place in a mailing list. You should have the ability to declare the Astlinux user email address as a non-html recipien= t and force lookout to sent plain text emails. Several reasons: 1). The messages look plain ugly/unreadable in the archives. 2). There is no benefit to html email in a mailing list and therefore it causes wasted bandwidth. 3). The security risks. There ARE places for html email. A mailing list is just not one of them. Darrick |
From: olivier.taylor <oli...@gm...> - 2007-01-04 20:50:24
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you all right :) but i don't understand what we are talking about :) just have a look at the bottom of every emails on the list, you will see=20 a wonderfull html footer... I just tought that this mailing list was a way for users to obtain help=20 from other users... That's the way I use it and I am sure the mail I have send in HTML will=20 be usefull for the user it has been written for... I didn't expect a discussion about html or non html emails... close that thread please, Olivier Darrick Hartman a =E9crit : >> did you see the green text on my first mail? >> no, you didn't, because you are focused against microsoft and so on(li= ke >> html mails). >> your problem is your and only your, the mails are sended from >> thunderbird, not from a microsoft software. >> =20 > > Oliver, > > I was trying to stay out of this, but I have to agree with Carla on thi= s > one. HTML email has no place in a mailing list. You should have the > ability to declare the Astlinux user email address as a non-html recipi= ent > and force lookout to sent plain text emails. Several reasons: > > 1). The messages look plain ugly/unreadable in the archives. > 2). There is no benefit to html email in a mailing list and therefore = it > causes wasted bandwidth. > 3). The security risks. > > > There ARE places for html email. A mailing list is just not one of the= m. > > Darrick > > =20 |