Thread: [Astlinux-devel] msmtp - what controls the queue delay?

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Hello all,

What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent 
out?

It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.

Bill

> Am 26.05.2019 um 22:15 schrieb Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...>:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent out?
> 
> It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.
> 
> Bill

https://github.com/astlinux-project/astlinux/blob/master/package/msmtp/msmtpqueue.sh

Michael

http://www.mksolutions.info

> On May 26, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent out?
> 
> It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.
> 
> Bill

Outbound emails should be forwarded almost immediately, unless there is some sort of error.

If there is an error, the email(s) is queued and retried every 5 minutes.

Lonnie

On 5/26/2019 8:35 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent out?
>>
>> It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.
>>
>> Bill
> 
> Outbound emails should be forwarded almost immediately, unless there is some sort of error.
> 
> If there is an error, the email(s) is queued and retried every 5 minutes.
> 
> Lonnie

It turns out there were dozen of old emails in that queue.  Going back 
many months.  When I finally configured the mail server, my outgoing 
msgs seemed to be taking a long time, vs sending instantly from another 
system configured the same way.

I then noticed the 'mail' script sends immediately for non-root users
vs. scheduling.  So I sent looking for a time delay.  And I changed that
5 minutes to 30 seconds to see what would happen.

Because of all this, the system sent out a ton of failed sends to Gmail, 
and they locked my account.  Only then did I discover all the msgs in 
the spool dir.  Killing all that and waiting about an hour, Gmail 
started working again.  And sending promptly.

Bill

> On May 27, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> On 5/26/2019 8:35 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>> On May 26, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent out?
>>> 
>>> It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> Outbound emails should be forwarded almost immediately, unless there is some sort of error.
>> If there is an error, the email(s) is queued and retried every 5 minutes.
>> Lonnie
> 
> It turns out there were dozen of old emails in that queue.  Going back many months.  When I finally configured the mail server, my outgoing msgs seemed to be taking a long time, vs sending instantly from another system configured the same way.
> 
> I then noticed the 'mail' script sends immediately for non-root users
> vs. scheduling.  So I sent looking for a time delay.  And I changed that
> 5 minutes to 30 seconds to see what would happen.
> 
> Because of all this, the system sent out a ton of failed sends to Gmail, and they locked my account.  Only then did I discover all the msgs in the spool dir.  Killing all that and waiting about an hour, Gmail started working again.  And sending promptly.
> 
> Bill

Just so I understand, your system generated emails before you configured the "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" so they were piling-up over time.

You configured "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" and all the queued emails got sent at once and Google decided you were spamming and locked your account, which in turn generated more email errors keeping mail in the queue.

Cleaning out the queue and waiting an hour, things worked again.

Did I understand correctly ?

Lonnie

On 5/27/2019 10:10 AM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 27, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/26/2019 8:35 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>> On May 26, 2019, at 3:15 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> What controls how long an email sits in the msmtpqueue before being sent out?
>>>>
>>>> It seems to take quite a while (minutes) before sending.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>> Outbound emails should be forwarded almost immediately, unless there is some sort of error.
>>> If there is an error, the email(s) is queued and retried every 5 minutes.
>>> Lonnie
>>
>> It turns out there were dozen of old emails in that queue.  Going back many months.  When I finally configured the mail server, my outgoing msgs seemed to be taking a long time, vs sending instantly from another system configured the same way.
>>
>> I then noticed the 'mail' script sends immediately for non-root users
>> vs. scheduling.  So I sent looking for a time delay.  And I changed that
>> 5 minutes to 30 seconds to see what would happen.
>>
>> Because of all this, the system sent out a ton of failed sends to Gmail, and they locked my account.  Only then did I discover all the msgs in the spool dir.  Killing all that and waiting about an hour, Gmail started working again.  And sending promptly.
>>
>> Bill
> 
> Just so I understand, your system generated emails before you configured the "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" so they were piling-up over time.
> 
> You configured "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" and all the queued emails got sent at once and Google decided you were spamming and locked your account, which in turn generated more email errors keeping mail in the queue.
> 
> Cleaning out the queue and waiting an hour, things worked again.
> 
> Did I understand correctly ?
> 
> Lonnie

Yes, except one detail.  The new emails were generated by me, while 
playing with the whole thing.

Bill

On 5/27/2019 10:10 AM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:

<snip lots of previous msgs>

> Just so I understand, your system generated emails before you configured the "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" so they were piling-up over time.
> 
> You configured "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" and all the queued emails got sent at once and Google decided you were spamming and locked your account, which in turn generated more email errors keeping mail in the queue.
> 
> Cleaning out the queue and waiting an hour, things worked again.
> 
> Did I understand correctly ?
> 
> Lonnie

Lonnie,

Using this command as a test:

   echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s 
"C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."

I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:

   msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
   msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid 
email address

Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 
'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?

Thanks,
Bill

> On May 30, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> On 5/27/2019 10:10 AM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> 
> <snip lots of previous msgs>
> 
>> Just so I understand, your system generated emails before you configured the "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" so they were piling-up over time.
>> You configured "Outbound SMTP Mail Relay:" and all the queued emails got sent at once and Google decided you were spamming and locked your account, which in turn generated more email errors keeping mail in the queue.
>> Cleaning out the queue and waiting an hour, things worked again.
>> Did I understand correctly ?
>> Lonnie
> 
> Lonnie,
> 
> Using this command as a test:
> 
>  echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
> 
> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
> 
>  msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>  msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
> 
> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill

You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.

Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
--
Advanced Configuration:

User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
--
then define something like:

SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."

Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm

Lonnie

On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>> Lonnie,
>>
>> Using this command as a test:
>>
>>   echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>
>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>
>>   msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>   msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>
>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>
> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
> --
> Advanced Configuration:
>
> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
> --
> then define something like:
>
> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>
> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>
> Lonnie
>
>
Lonnie,

That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.

So I'm getting the same error back from the server.

Bill

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>> Lonnie,
>>> 
>>> Using this command as a test:
>>> 
>>>  echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>> 
>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>> 
>>>  msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>  msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>> 
>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>> 
>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>> --
>> Advanced Configuration:
>> 
>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>> --
>> then define something like:
>> 
>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>> 
>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>> 
>> Lonnie
>> 
>> 
> Lonnie,
> 
> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
> 
> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
> 
> Bill

Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.

Lonnie

The error from the server:

msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address

I'm not sure if that parses as:
   the envelope the server received from the address ro...@wr...

or:
  the From: address for the msg

Because the -r option to the 'mail' command does set the From: header and that doesn't affect the error.

Bill

On 5/30/2019 3:56 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>
>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>> Lonnie,
>>>>
>>>> Using this command as a test:
>>>>
>>>>   echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>>>
>>>>   msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>>   msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>>>
>>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>>> --
>>> Advanced Configuration:
>>>
>>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>>> --
>>> then define something like:
>>>
>>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>>>
>>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>>>
>>> Lonnie
>>>
>>>
>> Lonnie,
>>
>> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
>>
>> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
>>
>> Bill
> Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
>

Maybe  a „gen-rc-conf“  in the CLI or a reboot (instead) was missing to activate the setting ...

Sent from a mobile device.

Michael Keuter

> Am 30.05.2019 um 21:56 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>> 
>> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>> Lonnie,
>>>> 
>>>> Using this command as a test:
>>>> 
>>>> echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>>> 
>>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>>> 
>>>> msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>> msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>>> 
>>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>>> --
>>> Advanced Configuration:
>>> 
>>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>>> --
>>> then define something like:
>>> 
>>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>>> 
>>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>>> 
>>> Lonnie
>>> 
>>> 
>> Lonnie,
>> 
>> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
>> 
>> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
>> 
>> Bill
> 
> Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-devel mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel

After I made the edit, I rebooted the whole thing before testing.
I just now ran 'gen-rc-conf' and rebooted again.

I see my change in /mnt/kd/rc.conf

Dunno if it's relevant, but /etc/rc.conf doesn't contain the change, and 
says it's autogenerated.

Bill

On 5/30/2019 4:06 PM, Michael Keuter wrote:
> Maybe  a „gen-rc-conf“  in the CLI or a reboot (instead) was missing to activate the setting ...
>
> Sent from a mobile device.
>
> Michael Keuter
>
>> Am 30.05.2019 um 21:56 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>>> Lonnie,
>>>>>
>>>>> Using this command as a test:
>>>>>
>>>>> echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>>>>
>>>>> msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>>> msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Bill
>>>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>>>>
>>>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>>>> --
>>>> Advanced Configuration:
>>>>
>>>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>>>> --
>>>> then define something like:
>>>>
>>>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>>>>
>>>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>>>>
>>>> Lonnie
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lonnie,
>>>
>>> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
>>>
>>> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
>>>
>>> Bill
>> Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.
>>
>> Lonnie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>> Ast...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-devel mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel

Bill,

No, the
--
Advanced Configuration:

User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
--
is in /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d/user.conf

No reboot or 'gen-rc-conf' is needed if you ...
Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm

If the directory /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d exists /mnt/kd/rc.conf is ignored.

Lonnie

> On May 30, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> After I made the edit, I rebooted the whole thing before testing.
> I just now ran 'gen-rc-conf' and rebooted again.
> 
> I see my change in /mnt/kd/rc.conf
> 
> Dunno if it's relevant, but /etc/rc.conf doesn't contain the change, and says it's autogenerated.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> On 5/30/2019 4:06 PM, Michael Keuter wrote:
>> Maybe  a „gen-rc-conf“  in the CLI or a reboot (instead) was missing to activate the setting ...
>> 
>> Sent from a mobile device.
>> 
>> Michael Keuter
>> 
>>> Am 30.05.2019 um 21:56 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>>>> Lonnie,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Using this command as a test:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>>>> msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>>>>> --
>>>>> Advanced Configuration:
>>>>> 
>>>>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>>>>> --
>>>>> then define something like:
>>>>> 
>>>>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Lonnie,
>>>> 
>>>> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
>>>> 
>>>> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
>>>> 
>>>> Bill
>>> Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.
>>> 
>>> Lonnie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>>> Ast...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>> Ast...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Astlinux-devel mailing list
> Ast...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel

Lonnie,

On 5/30/2019 4:42 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> Bill,
>
> No, the
> --
> Advanced Configuration:
>
> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
> --
> is in /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d/user.conf

> No reboot or 'gen-rc-conf' is needed if you ...
> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>
> If the directory /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d exists /mnt/kd/rc.conf is ignored.

OK, from your original message:

> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.

I took that to mean I should edit rc.conf when the Edit Configuration 
Files tab appeared.  I see now that isn't want you meant.
I've undone what I did before.  Rebooted again.

Now I've made the edit to /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d/user.conf

That worked, in that the error msg from the server now refers to 
bi...@wr... rather than ro...@wr....

Still doesn't send the mail though.  :-)  Now it's complaining:

    Access denied. You are not obviously not localhost.

So now I'm getting totally off the topic, but you may find this to be 
amusing.  I looked on Google for that error msg and got exactly one 
hit.  And it's from the brother of my friend who hosts wrljet.com for 
me!  So ... at this point it's over to him.

Bill

>> On May 30, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> After I made the edit, I rebooted the whole thing before testing.
>> I just now ran 'gen-rc-conf' and rebooted again.
>>
>> I see my change in /mnt/kd/rc.conf
>>
>> Dunno if it's relevant, but /etc/rc.conf doesn't contain the change, and says it's autogenerated.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/2019 4:06 PM, Michael Keuter wrote:
>>> Maybe  a „gen-rc-conf“  in the CLI or a reboot (instead) was missing to activate the setting ...
>>>
>>> Sent from a mobile device.
>>>
>>> Michael Keuter
>>>
>>>> Am 30.05.2019 um 21:56 schrieb Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lo...>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/2019 2:31 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>>>>> Lonnie,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using this command as a test:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> echo "C*Net call from 1234567" | mail -v -r "bi...@wr..." -s "C*Net call from 1234567" "bi...@wr..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm getting this error from a server a friend hosts for me:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> msmtp: envelope from address ro...@wr... not accepted by the server
>>>>>>> msmtp: server message: 553 5.3.0 <ro...@wr...>... Not a valid email address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a way to change the username 'root' in the email address 'ro...@wr...' AstLinux sends to the server?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using the Network tab, near the bottom, click ...
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Advanced Configuration:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> then define something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SMTP_FROM="bi...@wr..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Lonnie,
>>>>>
>>>>> That variable appears to do the same thing as the -r in my mail command.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'm getting the same error back from the server.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>> Just tried this myself, and when setting SMTP_FROM the ro...@ex... got replaced with the SMTP_FROM value.
>>>>
>>>> Lonnie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>>>> Ast...@li...
>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>>> Ast...@li...
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Astlinux-devel mailing list
>> Ast...@li...
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/astlinux-devel

> On May 30, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Bill Lewis <wr...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Lonnie,
> 
> On 5/30/2019 4:42 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>> Bill,
>> 
>> No, the
>> --
>> Advanced Configuration:
>> 
>> User System Variables: {Edit User Variables}
>> --
>> is in /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d/user.conf
>> 
> 
>> No reboot or 'gen-rc-conf' is needed if you ...
>> Apply the change by clicking ... {Reload/Restart} [Restart SMTP Mail] _x_ Confirm
>> 
>> If the directory /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d exists /mnt/kd/rc.conf is ignored.
>> 
> OK, from your original message: 
> 
> > You can define the SMTP_FROM rc.conf variable to change that IIRC.
> 
> I took that to mean I should edit rc.conf when the Edit Configuration Files tab appeared.  I see now that isn't want you meant.
> I've undone what I did before.  Rebooted again.
> 
> Now I've made the edit to /mnt/kd/rc.conf.d/user.conf 
> 
> That worked, in that the error msg from the server now refers to bi...@wr... rather than ro...@wr....
> 
> Still doesn't send the mail though.  :-)  Now it's complaining:
> 
>    Access denied. You are not obviously not localhost.
> 
> 
> So now I'm getting totally off the topic, but you may find this to be amusing.  I looked on Google for that error msg and got exactly one hit.  And it's from the brother of my friend who hosts wrljet.com for me!  So ... at this point it's over to him.
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> Bill

Or simply don't use Google to send email :-)

Lonnie

> Or simply don't use Google to send email :-)

Google works.  It's "my own" that doesn't work.

Bill