asterisk-java-users

Re: [Asterisk-java-users] A newbie introduction

[Olivier <oza...@my...>]

Fred,

Have you considered buying a custom Asterisk system along training ?

Having a fully functionnal Asterisk system running and complying to your
requirements just needs a couple of hours for experienced staff but it asks
days and weeks of labour if one has to learn by himself from scratch
(reading mailing lists itself, consumes much time and ressources ).

I'm running a french 6 people startup dedicated to Asterisk consulting and
services.
As our customer base grows, I'm warning more and more oftenly, prospective
or old customers about what they can really hope with Asterisk home
customisation :

- If you operate a single system, it's very very likely you won't have the
opportunity to tune it or to try and learn with it : you spend weeks of
labour to make it run and then, you won't touch it anymore because you can't
stop your running system. So in the end, what are the benefits ? You've
learned something you won't use anymore.

- It's easy to specify programming interfaces and plug a Java software and
tune that application. But Asterisk deals with hardware and real time, and
believe me, it can be very very long to master its behaviour.

- Moving or adding users takes a couple of minutes. It's not necessary to
customise yourself your system to avoid paying anything for that (you can be
trained on that)
 but adding a queue, for example, will remain out of reach of most.

- It's Open Source but adding any significant feature is a dream for most
companies as the learning curve is very very steep (no documentation, no
training, ...)


Please, feel free to contact me off-list.
Best wishes for your project.

Olivier

Re: [Asterisk-java-users] A newbie introduction

[Olivier <oza...@my...>]

> Can you keep your spam off the asterisk-java-users list?  You post had
> absolutely nothing to do with Asterisk-java.  One final point, if you're
> going to write your marketing pitch in English, you may want to make
> sure it is grammatically correct.
>
> Thanks,
> Cam

Hi,

1. My post relates to "Asterisk-java newbie introduction".
Do you mean "Asterisk-java newbie introduction" h

Re: [Asterisk-java-users] A newbie introduction

[Stefan R. <sr...@re...>]

Olivier wrote:
> 1. My post relates to "Asterisk-java newbie introduction".
> Do you mean "Asterisk-java newbie introduction" h

whatever you want to say us with that crippled message...
I don't like posting spam messages here and i don't think creating fear
to acquire customers will get you anywhere.
Stop spreading gossip about a lack of documentation and start
contribution to a great community. If Asterisk configuration is that
hard for you maybe that is rather a sign of your limited capabilities
than a sign of a complex system.
If you enable people providing useful support for free on the mailing
list they will value you and your company and may ask you for commercial
support when they really need it - not because they fear Asterisk's
complexity but because they value your support.

=3DStefan

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Re: [Asterisk-java-users] A newbie introduction

[Cameron S. <ca...@sc...>]

Can you keep your spam off the asterisk-java-users list?  You post had 
absolutely nothing to do with Asterisk-java.  One final point, if you're 
going to write your marketing pitch in English, you may want to make 
sure it is grammatically correct.

Thanks,
Cam

Olivier wrote:

> Fred,
>
> Have you considered buying a custom Asterisk system along training ?
>
> Having a fully functionnal Asterisk system running and complying to 
> your requirements just needs a couple of hours for experienced staff 
> but it asks days and weeks of labour if one has to learn by himself 
> from scratch (reading mailing lists itself, consumes much time and 
> ressources ).
>
> I'm running a french 6 people startup dedicated to Asterisk consulting 
> and services.
> As our customer base grows, I'm warning more and more oftenly, 
> prospective or old customers about what they can really hope with 
> Asterisk home customisation :
>
> - If you operate a single system, it's very very likely you won't have 
> the opportunity to tune it or to try and learn with it : you spend 
> weeks of labour to make it run and then, you won't touch it anymore 
> because you can't stop your running system. So in the end, what are 
> the benefits ? You've learned something you won't use anymore.
>
> - It's easy to specify programming interfaces and plug a Java software 
> and tune that application. But Asterisk deals with hardware and real 
> time, and believe me, it can be very very long to master its behaviour.
>
> - Moving or adding users takes a couple of minutes. It's not necessary 
> to customise yourself your system to avoid paying anything for that 
> (you can be trained on that)
>  but adding a queue, for example, will remain out of reach of most.
>
> - It's Open Source but adding any significant feature is a dream for 
> most companies as the learning curve is very very steep (no 
> documentation, no training, ...)
>
>
> Please, feel free to contact me off-list.
> Best wishes for your project.
>
> Olivier
>
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