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From: Rodrigo V. <rod...@gm...> - 2005-05-31 12:11:43
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I was checking your project's website, but I gotta confess I am a bit disappointed with the tutorial. I noticed that a guy called Owen Corpening requested a simpler, helloworld-ish sample but all he got back was some vicious answers, RTFM-style answers from one of the developers. If only the code/tests were commented in a way that helped the newcomers to figure out what's going on, but that's not the case. A very simple tutorial, for example adding logging or email functionality to 1 or 2 existing classes/methods, shouldn't be _so_ hard to produce, and would help _a lot_ the average user. Don't mix it with design patterns and other technologies, othwerwise it's hard to understand what's part of your framework and what's not So please rethink your position and do your project a favor, come up with a nice, simple sample, such as the ones available for Python and Java. It can't be _that_ hard ;) Keep it up, Aspect# seems the most interesting AOP framework for .net I've found, but right now it's way too hard for the newcomer to figure it out from the current tutorial. - Rodrigo |
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From: <hen...@ne...> - 2005-05-31 12:27:29
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Yeah, It's already in my plans create this kind of sample, in a "Show, don't = tell" fashion. Then, you lazy guys, doesn't need to read a simple page in the = site :-P. But I'm stucked with my graduation thesis for now. So, it will be done = in a 2 or 3 weeks Tks for consideration. -----Mensagem original----- De: asp...@li... [mailto:asp...@li...] Em nome de = Rodrigo Vieira Enviada em: ter=E7a-feira, 31 de maio de 2005 09:12 Para: asp...@li... Assunto: [Aspectsharp-users] Simpler tutorial I was checking your project's website, but I gotta confess I am a bit disappointed with the tutorial. I noticed that a guy called Owen Corpening requested a simpler, helloworld-ish sample but all he got back was some vicious answers, RTFM-style answers from one of the developers. If only the code/tests were commented in a way that helped the newcomers to figure out what's going on, but that's not the case. A very simple tutorial, for example adding logging or email functionality to 1 or 2 existing classes/methods, shouldn't be _so_ hard to produce, and would help _a lot_ the average user. Don't mix it with design patterns and other technologies, othwerwise it's hard to understand what's part of your framework and what's not So please rethink your position and do your project a favor, come up with a nice, simple sample, such as the ones available for Python and Java. It can't be _that_ hard ;) Keep it up, Aspect# seems the most interesting AOP framework for .net I've found, but right now it's way too hard for the newcomer to figure it out from the current tutorial. - Rodrigo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit = http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=3Dfad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 _______________________________________________ Aspectsharp-users mailing list Asp...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aspectsharp-users |
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From: Owen C. <oco...@ac...> - 2005-05-31 14:15:55
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I switched to http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~eos/ and never looked back, this tool does everything I need and is extremely similar to aspectj, works well and the developers are very responsive and friendly. You should be able to do a logging aspect in 5 min - if not let me know be glad to help. Thanks, Owen Corpening Acorn Systems -----Original Message----- From: asp...@li... [mailto:asp...@li...] On Behalf Of Rodrigo Vieira Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:12 AM To: asp...@li... Subject: [Aspectsharp-users] Simpler tutorial I was checking your project's website, but I gotta confess I am a bit disappointed with the tutorial. I noticed that a guy called Owen Corpening requested a simpler, helloworld-ish sample but all he got back was some vicious answers, RTFM-style answers from one of the developers. If only the code/tests were commented in a way that helped the newcomers to figure out what's going on, but that's not the case. A very simple tutorial, for example adding logging or email functionality to 1 or 2 existing classes/methods, shouldn't be _so_ hard to produce, and would help _a lot_ the average user. Don't mix it with design patterns and other technologies, othwerwise it's hard to understand what's part of your framework and what's not So please rethink your position and do your project a favor, come up with a nice, simple sample, such as the ones available for Python and Java. It can't be _that_ hard ;) Keep it up, Aspect# seems the most interesting AOP framework for .net I've found, but right now it's way too hard for the newcomer to figure it out from the current tutorial. - Rodrigo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=fad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 _______________________________________________ Aspectsharp-users mailing list Asp...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aspectsharp-users |
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From: <hen...@ne...> - 2005-05-31 16:55:27
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Hi, Besides Eos(great project, btw) and Aspect# share the same goals, they = have different approaches.=20 Aspect# is a dynamic weaving framework, and pretend continue following = that way. Our challenge is to be less intrusive and perfomatic as it an aop framework can be. And since we (Aspect# Team) don't have a sponsor (our something like = that) it'll continue be developed in your spare time, and accordingly our priorities. Documentation is a big issue of the project; we know it and have plans = to fix ASAP. And *everyone* is invited to contribute, instead complaining = about it our treat us like an employee or subordinated asking "we are the docs that I ask?". Regards, Henry Concei=E7=E3o -----Mensagem original----- De: asp...@li... [mailto:asp...@li...] Em nome de Owen Corpening Enviada em: ter=E7a-feira, 31 de maio de 2005 11:15 Para: 'Rodrigo Vieira'; asp...@li... Cc: eos...@ar... Assunto: RE: [Aspectsharp-users] Simpler tutorial I switched to http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~eos/ and never looked back, = this tool does everything I need and is extremely similar to aspectj, works = well and the developers are very responsive and friendly. You should be able = to do a logging aspect in 5 min - if not let me know be glad to help. Thanks, =20 Owen Corpening Acorn Systems -----Original Message----- From: asp...@li... [mailto:asp...@li...] On Behalf Of = Rodrigo Vieira Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 7:12 AM To: asp...@li... Subject: [Aspectsharp-users] Simpler tutorial I was checking your project's website, but I gotta confess I am a bit disappointed with the tutorial. I noticed that a guy called Owen Corpening requested a simpler, helloworld-ish sample but all he got back was some vicious answers, RTFM-style answers from one of the developers. If only the code/tests were commented in a way that helped the newcomers to figure out what's going on, but that's not the case. A very simple tutorial, for example adding logging or email functionality to 1 or 2 existing classes/methods, shouldn't be _so_ hard to produce, and would help _a lot_ the average user. Don't mix it with design patterns and other technologies, othwerwise it's hard to understand what's part of your framework and what's not So please rethink your position and do your project a favor, come up with a nice, simple sample, such as the ones available for Python and Java. It can't be _that_ hard ;) Keep it up, Aspect# seems the most interesting AOP framework for .net I've found, but right now it's way too hard for the newcomer to figure it out from the current tutorial. - Rodrigo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit = http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=3Dfad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 _______________________________________________ Aspectsharp-users mailing list Asp...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aspectsharp-users ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit = http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=3Doffad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 _______________________________________________ Aspectsharp-users mailing list Asp...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/aspectsharp-users |
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