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From: Ben A. <ben...@st...> - 2007-06-25 09:05:04
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Hello there I would greatly appreciate a small amount of your time to assist with my doctoral research at The University of Newcastle. The research concerns open source licensing and we're seeking developers working on Java projects. The research is supervised, ethics-approved, anonymous and results will be freely available. Participation will also provide a custom licensing report for your project. To learn more, please visit: http://licensing-research.newcastle.edu.au Thanks for reading this email, and I hope you'll consider participating. Best regards Ben Alex (My apologies for being off-topic; this list will not be emailed again) |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2005-04-23 12:19:03
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Don Parris wrote: >Perhaps you could clear up whether FC includes any non-free software? For >instance, SUSE (my current distro) includes Main Actor, which is non-free. >But I have received confusing reports about Red Hat/Fedora Core. Do you >mind weighing in? > > http://fedora.redhat.com/licenses/eula.html *1. The Software.* Fedora Core (the “Software”) is a modular Linux operating system consisting of hundreds of software components. The end user license agreement for each component is located in the component's source code. With the exception of certain image files containing the Fedora trademark identified in Section 2 below, the license terms for the components permit User to copy, modify, and redistribute the component, in both source code and binary code forms. This agreement does not limit User's rights under, or grant User rights that supersede, the license terms of any particular component. So basically the Fedora logo etc are trademark restricted, you can see info on that here: http://fedora.redhat.com/about/trademarks/ But other than that it seems like its all free software David |
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From: Don P. <eva...@ma...> - 2005-04-22 17:37:52
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:30:04 +0200 David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: > Don Parris wrote: > > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:18:36 +0200 > >David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: > > > ><SNIP> > > > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>OK here they are: > >>http://asaph.sourceforge.net/pyasaph/screenshots/ > >>You want the 0.3 ones > >>I've left the projected image in the background (normally this would be > >>on the projector only, but it gives an idea. > >>There's also a live picture of it running in church, but thats version > >>0.2.2 > >> > >> > >> > > > >Hey great! Another XFce user, I see. What distro do you run? > > > >Don > > > > > Fedora Core 3 :-) > > David > > Perhaps you could clear up whether FC includes any non-free software? For instance, SUSE (my current distro) includes Main Actor, which is non-free. But I have received confusing reports about Red Hat/Fedora Core. Do you mind weighing in? Don -- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere." -- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere." |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2005-04-22 16:30:13
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Don Parris wrote: >On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:18:36 +0200 >David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: > ><SNIP> > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>OK here they are: >>http://asaph.sourceforge.net/pyasaph/screenshots/ >>You want the 0.3 ones >>I've left the projected image in the background (normally this would be >>on the projector only, but it gives an idea. >>There's also a live picture of it running in church, but thats version >>0.2.2 >> >> >> > >Hey great! Another XFce user, I see. What distro do you run? > >Don > > Fedora Core 3 :-) David |
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From: Don P. <eva...@ma...> - 2005-04-22 15:38:55
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:18:36 +0200 David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: <SNIP> > > > > > OK here they are: > http://asaph.sourceforge.net/pyasaph/screenshots/ > You want the 0.3 ones > I've left the projected image in the background (normally this would be > on the projector only, but it gives an idea. > There's also a live picture of it running in church, but thats version > 0.2.2 > Hey great! Another XFce user, I see. What distro do you run? Don -- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere." |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2005-04-22 11:18:49
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Don Parris wrote: >On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:24:17 +0200 >David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: > > > >>Hi >> >>I have just released PyAsaph 0.3 >>This release features a number of fixes to the layout code and >>subsequent improvements, such as the fact that the presentation screen >>doesn't have that irritating scrollbar on it anymore. >> >>We have now been using PyAsaph for the worship services in our church >>successfully for almost a year and some other churches in South Africa >>are also hoping to use it. >> >>The files are all downloadable from here: >>http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=265076 >> >>There is a standalone installer for Windows (pyasaph-0.3-setup.exe) >>which doesn't require Python etc. Also RPMs for Linux are now available >>(should be fairly platform independent). >> >>I have also started a wiki on church software at >>http://davidf.sjsoft.com/wiki/churchsoftware/ which contains some info >>on using PyAsaph and Asaph (not very much at present but there is an >>install guide for Windows) >> >>Regards >>David >> >> >> >> > >David, > >Please send me a screenshot to include in "Penguin in the Pew". I am about >to release an updated version, and would like to include mention/shot of >PyAsaph. This sounds really cool. The webmaster of The Freely Project has >said Asaph is quite useful, but I don't think he knew about PyAsaph. Send a >full shot (preferably of the main interface). If you can turn this around >pretty quick, that would be a good thing. I just uploaded a tar of images >to the guy who is setting them up for the print edition. I want to have >this thing uploaded to my publishing service by the end of next week. > > OK here they are: http://asaph.sourceforge.net/pyasaph/screenshots/ You want the 0.3 ones I've left the projected image in the background (normally this would be on the projector only, but it gives an idea. There's also a live picture of it running in church, but thats version 0.2.2 >If you're not familiar with "Penguin in the Pew", it's a book about using >free software in churches. This new edition (2.0) is greatly expanded, and >includes discussion of a number of Christian FOSS projects, as well as the >sites that make up the core of the activist Christian FOSS community. You >can download the current version (1.0) from: > >http://matheteuo.org/downloads/Penguin-in-the-Pew.pdf > > Cool, I wasn't aware of it, quite a cool idea! >Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. >Blessings, >Don > > Thanks for wanting to include this! Found your site interesting, now I've got plenty to read... Cheers David |
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From: Don P. <eva...@ma...> - 2005-04-21 17:32:07
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:24:17 +0200 David Fraser <da...@sj...> wrote: > Hi > > I have just released PyAsaph 0.3 > This release features a number of fixes to the layout code and > subsequent improvements, such as the fact that the presentation screen > doesn't have that irritating scrollbar on it anymore. > > We have now been using PyAsaph for the worship services in our church > successfully for almost a year and some other churches in South Africa > are also hoping to use it. > > The files are all downloadable from here: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=265076 > > There is a standalone installer for Windows (pyasaph-0.3-setup.exe) > which doesn't require Python etc. Also RPMs for Linux are now available > (should be fairly platform independent). > > I have also started a wiki on church software at > http://davidf.sjsoft.com/wiki/churchsoftware/ which contains some info > on using PyAsaph and Asaph (not very much at present but there is an > install guide for Windows) > > Regards > David > > David, Please send me a screenshot to include in "Penguin in the Pew". I am about to release an updated version, and would like to include mention/shot of PyAsaph. This sounds really cool. The webmaster of The Freely Project has said Asaph is quite useful, but I don't think he knew about PyAsaph. Send a full shot (preferably of the main interface). If you can turn this around pretty quick, that would be a good thing. I just uploaded a tar of images to the guy who is setting them up for the print edition. I want to have this thing uploaded to my publishing service by the end of next week. If you're not familiar with "Penguin in the Pew", it's a book about using free software in churches. This new edition (2.0) is greatly expanded, and includes discussion of a number of Christian FOSS projects, as well as the sites that make up the core of the activist Christian FOSS community. You can download the current version (1.0) from: http://matheteuo.org/downloads/Penguin-in-the-Pew.pdf Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Blessings, Don -- evangelinux GNU Evangelist http://matheteuo.org/ http://chaddb.sourceforge.net/ "Free software is like God's love - you can share it with anyone anytime anywhere." |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2005-04-21 14:25:44
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David Fraser wrote: > Hi > > I have just released PyAsaph 0.3 > > [snip] > > The files are all downloadable from here: > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=265076 > Just for dramatic effect, that was pyasaph 0.2.3's download location :-) They're really here: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=322250 David |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2005-04-21 14:24:27
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Hi I have just released PyAsaph 0.3 This release features a number of fixes to the layout code and subsequent improvements, such as the fact that the presentation screen doesn't have that irritating scrollbar on it anymore. We have now been using PyAsaph for the worship services in our church successfully for almost a year and some other churches in South Africa are also hoping to use it. The files are all downloadable from here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=265076 There is a standalone installer for Windows (pyasaph-0.3-setup.exe) which doesn't require Python etc. Also RPMs for Linux are now available (should be fairly platform independent). I have also started a wiki on church software at http://davidf.sjsoft.com/wiki/churchsoftware/ which contains some info on using PyAsaph and Asaph (not very much at present but there is an install guide for Windows) Regards David |
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From: Daniel A. <da...@al...> - 2004-10-14 08:50:19
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On Oct 14, 2004, at 00:34, David Fraser wrote: >> I'm wondering if anyone has done bulk imports of songs into Asaph, and >> if so, how they've done it. I've looked at the XML file format and it >> looks fairly straightforward, but when i try to use files i've created >> that way, it seems to produce unpredictable results, or worse, crash >> Asaph. There are a bunch of subtleties to Asaph's XML format, and I don't particularly recommend trying to edit it manually at this point. >> I've also tried the experimental import plugin - it crashes Asaph as >> soon as i've selected it. Here is the output: >> > I haven't had problems with the experimental import plugin, but have > only done one song at a time. I think I'll have to leave the response > to that up to Daniel... Yes, I'm aware of the issue with the import plugin. I have it fixed in CVS; I'll see if I can get a patch release out in the next few days. Daniel |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-10-14 07:34:43
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Paul Gear wrote: >Hi folks, > >I'm wondering if anyone has done bulk imports of songs into Asaph, and >if so, how they've done it. I've looked at the XML file format and it >looks fairly straightforward, but when i try to use files i've created >that way, it seems to produce unpredictable results, or worse, crash Asaph. > > In pyasaph I've got a Python script called sxwimport which attempts to import songs from an OpenOffice.org sxw file. I used this to save a word document as an .sxw from OpenOffice.org and then imported a number of songs from there. It's probably fairly tuned to the styles defined in that document (our song book) but could be easily adapted. Basically it tries to detect where the start and end of songs are. Of course, if you're doing multiple files each with an individual song in them it should be easier, and if they're text files even more so. Let me know if you would like to use this / how you go with it. >I've also tried the experimental import plugin - it crashes Asaph as >soon as i've selected it. Here is the output: > > I haven't had problems with the experimental import plugin, but have only done one song at a time. I think I'll have to leave the response to that up to Daniel... David |
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From: Paul G. <pa...@ge...> - 2004-10-14 06:48:53
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Hi folks,
I'm wondering if anyone has done bulk imports of songs into Asaph, and
if so, how they've done it. I've looked at the XML file format and it
looks fairly straightforward, but when i try to use files i've created
that way, it seems to produce unpredictable results, or worse, crash Asaph.
I've also tried the experimental import plugin - it crashes Asaph as
soon as i've selected it. Here is the output:
enoch:[/opt/asaph]./asaph.sh
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:52 PM com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch <init>
INFO: LAUNCHING ASAPH
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:52 PM com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch <init>
INFO: Logging at level FINE (500)
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:52 PM com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch <init>
CONFIG: Build ID: 0.5.4.20040714194134
java.version = 1.4.2_05
java.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.name = Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
java.vm.version = 1.4.2_05-b04
java.vm.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
os.name = Linux
os.version = 2.6.7-1-k7
os.arch = i386
user.dir = /opt/asaph
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.plugin.PluginInfoParser$InfoHandler warning
WARNING: XML parsing error on line 1, column -1: Declared encoding
"UTF-8" does not match actual one "UTF8"; this might not be an error.
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.plugin.PluginInfoParser$InfoHandler warning
WARNING: XML parsing error on line 1, column -1: Declared encoding
"UTF-8" does not match actual one "UTF8"; this might not be an error.
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.notationmanager.NotationManagerPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting NotationManagerPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.ModelUtilsPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting ModelUtilsPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardmodel.StandardModelPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting StandardModelPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:53 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.maingui.MainGuiPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting MainGuiPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:54 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.StandardGuiPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting StandardGuiPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:54 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.xmldatabase.XMLDatabasePlugin <init>
FINE: Starting XMLDatabasePlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:54 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionPlugin <init>
FINE: Starting FileConversionPlugin
Oct 14, 2004 4:46:55 PM com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch launch
FINE: Completed launch
Oct 14, 2004 4:47:00 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.error.AWTErrorManager$Impl handle
SEVERE: Exception thrown on AWT thread:
java.lang.IllegalAccessError: tried to access class
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.ResourceAccess from class
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionManagerImpl
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionManagerImpl.importSongs(FileConversionManagerImpl.java:154)
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionPlugin.doImport(FileConversionPlugin.java:217)
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionPlugin.access$000(FileConversionPlugin.java:72)
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.fileconversion.FileConversionPlugin$1.commandInvoked(FileConversionPlugin.java:146)
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.command.AbstractCommandNode.invoke(AbstractCommandNode.java:266)
at
com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.basiccommand.builder.AbstractSwingButtonBuilderNode$2.actionPerformed(AbstractSwingButtonBuilderNode.java:111)
at
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1,786)
at
javax.swing.AbstractButton$ForwardActionEvents.actionPerformed(AbstractButton.java:1,839)
at
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(DefaultButtonModel.java:420)
at
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(DefaultButtonModel.java:258)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(AbstractButton.java:289)
at
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1,113)
at
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$MenuDragMouseHandler.menuDragMouseReleased(BasicMenuItemUI.java:1,006)
at
javax.swing.JMenuItem.fireMenuDragMouseReleased(JMenuItem.java:584)
at
javax.swing.JMenuItem.processMenuDragMouseEvent(JMenuItem.java:481)
at javax.swing.JMenuItem.processMouseEvent(JMenuItem.java:428)
at
javax.swing.MenuSelectionManager.processMouseEvent(MenuSelectionManager.java:277)
at
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuUI$MouseInputHandler.mouseReleased(BasicMenuUI.java:360)
at
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(AWTEventMulticaster.java:231)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Component.java:5,100)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Component.java:4,897)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Container.java:1,569)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Component.java:3,615)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1,627)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3,477)
at
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Container.java:3,483)
at
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Container.java:3,198)
at
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Container.java:3,128)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Container.java:1,613)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Window.java:1,606)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Component.java:3,477)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:456)
at
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:201)
at
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:151)
at
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:145)
at
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:137)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:100)
Oct 14, 2004 4:47:02 PM
com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch$LauncherImpl attemptQuit
FINE: Starting safe-quit
Oct 14, 2004 4:47:02 PM com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.launch.Launch
doTerminate
INFO: QUITTING ASAPH
Thanks in advance,
Paul
<http://paulgear.webhop.net>
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-09-06 21:08:47
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Paul Gear wrote: >David Fraser wrote: > > >>Jeremy Bowers wrote: >> >> >> >>>>Thanks for the feedback Sandra. >>>>I only discovered OpenSong recently, and it looks cool, but not as >>>>cool as Asaph/PyAsaph will be when finally done ... :-) >>>>Anyway its great to have some free software alternatives >>>> >>>>David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Also, OpenSong doesn't appear to work on Linux, so it's not even an >>>option for me. Thanx to the Asaph crew for being truly crossplatform! >>> >>> >>If you've got a chance, please give PyAsaph a go on Linux and let me >>know how it works for you. Let me know if you need help setting it up. >>It requires Python and wxPython, preferably Python 2.3.x and wxPython 2.5.x >> >> > >Hi, > >I'm a newcomer to this list. > >A quick question: which Linux distribution are you using as a >development platform, and do you use the native Python/wxPython, or do >you install your own? I use Debian, and it appears that they only ship >Python 2.1 with both stable and testing. > >Thanks, >Paul ><http://paulgear.webhop.net> > Hi Paul I'm using Fedora Core 2, and I use the native Python 2.3. For wxPython I have used both the native wxPythonGTK2-2.4.2.4 and the development 2.5.1.5 and 2.5.2.x packages. It is possible that pyasaph will work fine with Python 2.1, but I haven't had a chance to test it. Debian stable has wxPython 2.2 (the package is called libwxgtk2.2-python), testing and unstable both have 2.4, and experimental has 2.5.x I doubt that the program will work well with wxPython 2.2, but it should work fine with 2.4. testing and unstable both have python 2.3, so you should be able to get it from there I haven't used debian (though I use apt-get on my Fedora box) so I don't know the procedures but I hope you can get it going. Cheers David |
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From: <at...@ba...> - 2004-09-04 05:32:55
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Paul Gear wrote: > A quick question: which Linux distribution are you using as a > development platform, and do you use the native Python/wxPython, or do > you install your own? I use Debian, and it appears that they only ship > Python 2.1 with both stable and testing. That's the drawback of using stable/testing. IMHO stable is only usable on a server, everybody I know (including me) run unstable on their desktop/laptop. A word about testing: It's supposed the best of both worlds (stability and new software) but it's widely agreed it gives you the worst in stead (old software and problems related to dependencies)... -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://www.atte.dk |
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From: Paul G. <pa...@ge...> - 2004-09-04 03:49:57
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David Fraser wrote: > Jeremy Bowers wrote: > >> >>> Thanks for the feedback Sandra. >>> I only discovered OpenSong recently, and it looks cool, but not as >>> cool as Asaph/PyAsaph will be when finally done ... :-) >>> Anyway its great to have some free software alternatives >>> >>> David >>> >> Also, OpenSong doesn't appear to work on Linux, so it's not even an >> option for me. Thanx to the Asaph crew for being truly crossplatform! > > > If you've got a chance, please give PyAsaph a go on Linux and let me > know how it works for you. Let me know if you need help setting it up. > It requires Python and wxPython, preferably Python 2.3.x and wxPython 2.5.x Hi, I'm a newcomer to this list. A quick question: which Linux distribution are you using as a development platform, and do you use the native Python/wxPython, or do you install your own? I use Debian, and it appears that they only ship Python 2.1 with both stable and testing. Thanks, Paul <http://paulgear.webhop.net> -- Did you know? Most email-borne viruses use a false sender address. Therefore you cannot track down the sender using that address. Instead, keep your virus scanning software up-to-date and just delete any suspicious emails you receive. |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-09-03 19:25:59
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Jeremy Bowers wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback Sandra. >> I only discovered OpenSong recently, and it looks cool, but not as >> cool as Asaph/PyAsaph will be when finally done ... :-) >> Anyway its great to have some free software alternatives >> >> David >> > Also, OpenSong doesn't appear to work on Linux, so it's not even an > option for me. Thanx to the Asaph crew for being truly crossplatform! If you've got a chance, please give PyAsaph a go on Linux and let me know how it works for you. Let me know if you need help setting it up. It requires Python and wxPython, preferably Python 2.3.x and wxPython 2.5.x Cheers David |
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From: Jeremy B. <ja...@pr...> - 2004-09-03 15:56:32
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> Thanks for the feedback Sandra. > I only discovered OpenSong recently, and it looks cool, but not as > cool as Asaph/PyAsaph will be when finally done ... :-) > Anyway its great to have some free software alternatives > > David > Also, OpenSong doesn't appear to work on Linux, so it's not even an option for me. Thanx to the Asaph crew for being truly crossplatform! --Jeremy |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-09-03 15:43:38
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Sandra Capri wrote: >>I would be very interested to hear if anyone else is actually using >>PyAsaph, or have tried and found problems. >>I hope that the Windows installer will enable more people to try out the >>package. (Sandra, have you had any chance to try?) >> >> > >Nope, sorry, we went with OpenSong, at least for the short term. Our other system >needed immediate replacement, and OpenSong was minutes to install, and >very easy for the song leaders to copy the data over. > >When I finally get some free time, I will look back into PyAsaph. >We are approaching netlist release on my project at work, and life >is incredibly hectic right now. > >Sandra > > Thanks for the feedback Sandra. I only discovered OpenSong recently, and it looks cool, but not as cool as Asaph/PyAsaph will be when finally done ... :-) Anyway its great to have some free software alternatives David |
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From: Sandra C. <sc...@sp...> - 2004-09-03 13:42:41
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> I would be very interested to hear if anyone else is actually using > PyAsaph, or have tried and found problems. > I hope that the Windows installer will enable more people to try out the > package. (Sandra, have you had any chance to try?) Nope, sorry, we went with OpenSong, at least for the short term. Our other system needed immediate replacement, and OpenSong was minutes to install, and very easy for the song leaders to copy the data over. When I finally get some free time, I will look back into PyAsaph. We are approaching netlist release on my project at work, and life is incredibly hectic right now. Sandra |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-09-02 12:01:37
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Hi I have just released PyAsaph 0.2.3 This release features a number of fixes and minor improvements. Also Dave Durrett has started working on the code - great to have another developer! In addition, there is now a standalone Windows installer program that doesn't require Python or wxPython (pyasaph-0.2.3-setup.exe) - and has actually been tested! I would be very interested to hear if anyone else is actually using PyAsaph, or have tried and found problems. I hope that the Windows installer will enable more people to try out the package. (Sandra, have you had any chance to try?) We have now been using PyAsaph for the worship services in our church successfully for four months. We are also preparing helpful notes for operators. The files are all downloadable from here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=59205&package_id=110230&release_id=265076 In addition, I have done some testing of PyAsaph on Mac OS X ... it needs a few improvements to work, which should hopefully be included shortly. Any questions or feedback is welcome! Regards David |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-07-21 17:56:12
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Sandra Capri wrote: >Hey all, > >I have been out of circulation for the last few months (combination of >personal and work pressures), so I haven't had a chance to try >downloading pyasaph. In addition, our projector at church lost it's >bulb, and a new bulb was $600! Our songleader just called me yesterday >to say that she was picking up a new projector for $899, so the pressure >is now on to try out pyasaph! > > Excellent! I was hoping somebody else would try it out... We've been using it at our church since the early hard-to-use versions and it is mostly fine. >I will be putting it on the church's win98se system first (I hope to >load linux on it when I get some time) which isn't networked - so I need >to download everything here at home, and burn it on CD; I'd like to get >everything the first time. > > OK, one question at a time... >What all needs to be installed? I assume wxPython, and Python need to be installed. > > You can do it like this or you can use the py2exe version which bundles everything. But then you can't change any of the code yourself... I would recommend using the real source code at home and the py2exe version at church. >Do I also need to install asaph, or is pyasaph inclusive of asaph? > > pyasaph doesn't include asaph, and can't edit songs at all. So you need asaph if you want to edit songs. >What about any databases? > > You'll need a song database, have you converted any of your songs to Asaph format yet? >And, has anyone had success running pyasaph on win98? > > I don't know if anyone has run it other than me yet! But I expect it to work fine. Not sure what the multiple display support is like - do you run your projector as a second monitor? >Thanks for any insight! > > Sure. I've just released pyasaph 0.2.2 so that you can try out the latest minor changes (setting colour actually) I would recommend trying it out at home - feedback to the list any questions and I'll try answer quickly... pyasaph 0.2.2 announcement will come later but it should be available for download... Regards David |
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From: Sandra C. <sc...@sp...> - 2004-07-21 03:01:30
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Hey all, I have been out of circulation for the last few months (combination of personal and work pressures), so I haven't had a chance to try downloading pyasaph. In addition, our projector at church lost it's bulb, and a new bulb was $600! Our songleader just called me yesterday to say that she was picking up a new projector for $899, so the pressure is now on to try out pyasaph! I will be putting it on the church's win98se system first (I hope to load linux on it when I get some time) which isn't networked - so I need to download everything here at home, and burn it on CD; I'd like to get everything the first time. What all needs to be installed? I assume wxPython, and Python need to be installed. Do I also need to install asaph, or is pyasaph inclusive of asaph? What about any databases? And, has anyone had success running pyasaph on win98? Thanks for any insight! -- Sandra Capri <sc...@sp...> |
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From: Daniel A. <da...@ka...> - 2004-07-16 15:23:45
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On Jul 16, 2004, at 07:32, David Fraser wrote: > Daniel Azuma wrote: > >> On Jul 16, 2004, at 01:38, David Fraser wrote: >> >>> BTW there is an error when trying to paste multi-line text into the >>> editor. Should have mentioned this earlier then you could have put >>> it into 0.5.4! :-) >> >> Thanks. I'll look into it. So that was happening on 0.5.3 also? > > Yes, it was... Thanks. I'm able to reproduce it on Mac OS X also. It's a regression; this definitely was working before. It also happens if you attempt to paste just one line, but at the line level; may be happening whenever a new line is created by the clipboard mechanism. This is pretty serious. I'll probably release a patch when it's fixed. > I still get warnings like this: > [javadoc] Constructing Javadoc information... > [javadoc] > /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/src/com/virtuosotechnologies/lib/platform/ > MacOSXPlatformProvider.java:45: package com.apple.eawt does not exist > [javadoc] import com.apple.eawt.Application; > [javadoc] ^ > [javadoc] > /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/src/com/virtuosotechnologies/lib/platform/ > MacOSXPlatformProvider.java:46: package com.apple.eawt does not exist > [javadoc] import com.apple.eawt.ApplicationAdapter; > [javadoc] ^ > > etc... I presume this is just that you can't see the apple stuff off > the Mac and can just be ignored... That's correct. I'm not sure how to suppress those warnings on non-Mac systems, but I'll look into it later. They don't hurt anything: those Apple classes never should show up in the Javadoc anyway. Daniel |
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From: David F. <da...@sj...> - 2004-07-16 14:30:45
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Daniel Azuma wrote: > On Jul 16, 2004, at 01:38, David Fraser wrote: > >> BTW there is an error when trying to paste multi-line text into the >> editor. Should have mentioned this earlier then you could have put >> it into 0.5.4! :-) >> >> It seems to happen both on Windows and on Linux... >> >> Jul 16, 2004 9:34:40 AM >> com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.error.AWTErrorManager$Impl handle >> SEVERE: Exception thrown on AWT thread: >> java.lang.NullPointerException >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.insertL >> ineFragmentAt(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:706) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.insertL >> ineListAfter(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:750) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.pasteTr >> ansferableImpl(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:914) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.pasteTr >> ansferable(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:834) >> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) >> at >> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.ja >> va:39) >> at >> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccesso >> rImpl.java:25) >> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.plugin.SimpleFramework$2.invoke(SimpleFram >> ework.java:1,543) >> at $Proxy3.pasteTransferable(Unknown Source) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongLineEditor.doPaste(SongL >> ineEditor.java:1,322) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBlockEditor.doPaste(Song >> BlockEditor.java:1,031) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBodyEditor.doPaste(SongB >> odyEditor.java:893) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBodyEditorPane$4.command >> Invoked(SongBodyEditorPane.java:369) >> at >> com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.command.AbstractCommandNode.invoke(Abstrac >> tCommandNode.java:266) >> >> I did some rudimentary debugging and it seems that member is already >> null when insertLineFragmentAt is called... >> This seems to be the case no matter where I paste the text (in a >> block, in a new line, outside of a block) >> Is the logic correct here? > > Thanks. I'll look into it. So that was happening on 0.5.3 also? Yes, it was... >> Also when building from the source I get the following error (not >> serious)... >> >> javadoc: >> [delete] Deleting directory /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/api >> [mkdir] Created dir: /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/api >> [mkdir] Created dir: /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/jartemp >> [copy] Copying 1 file to /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/jartemp >> >> BUILD FAILED >> file:/usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/build.xml:396: The <javadoc> >> task doesn't support the "breakiterator" attribute. >> >> I'm using java2 sdk 1.4.2 and ant 1.5.3 on linux. Do I need higher >> versions? > > Yes, you need ant 1.6 or later. Get it from http://ant.apache.org. OK, thanks, that fixed it I still get warnings like this: [javadoc] Constructing Javadoc information... [javadoc] /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/src/com/virtuosotechnologies/lib/platform/MacOSXPlatformProvider.java:45: package com.apple.eawt does not exist [javadoc] import com.apple.eawt.Application; [javadoc] ^ [javadoc] /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/src/com/virtuosotechnologies/lib/platform/MacOSXPlatformProvider.java:46: package com.apple.eawt does not exist [javadoc] import com.apple.eawt.ApplicationAdapter; [javadoc] ^ etc... I presume this is just that you can't see the apple stuff off the Mac and can just be ignored... David |
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From: Daniel A. <da...@ka...> - 2004-07-16 13:49:42
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On Jul 16, 2004, at 01:38, David Fraser wrote: > BTW there is an error when trying to paste multi-line text into the > editor. Should have mentioned this earlier then you could have put it > into 0.5.4! :-) > > It seems to happen both on Windows and on Linux... > > Jul 16, 2004 9:34:40 AM > com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.error.AWTErrorManager$Impl handle > SEVERE: Exception thrown on AWT thread: > java.lang.NullPointerException > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.insertL > ineFragmentAt(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:706) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.insertL > ineListAfter(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:750) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.pasteTr > ansferableImpl(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:914) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.modelutils.DataTransferUtilsImpl.pasteTr > ansferable(DataTransferUtilsImpl.java:834) > at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) > at > sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.ja > va:39) > at > sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccesso > rImpl.java:25) > at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:324) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.plugin.SimpleFramework$2.invoke(SimpleFram > ework.java:1,543) > at $Proxy3.pasteTransferable(Unknown Source) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongLineEditor.doPaste(SongL > ineEditor.java:1,322) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBlockEditor.doPaste(Song > BlockEditor.java:1,031) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBodyEditor.doPaste(SongB > odyEditor.java:893) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.asaph.standardgui.SongBodyEditorPane$4.command > Invoked(SongBodyEditorPane.java:369) > at > com.virtuosotechnologies.lib.command.AbstractCommandNode.invoke(Abstrac > tCommandNode.java:266) > > I did some rudimentary debugging and it seems that member is already > null when insertLineFragmentAt is called... > This seems to be the case no matter where I paste the text (in a > block, in a new line, outside of a block) > Is the logic correct here? Thanks. I'll look into it. So that was happening on 0.5.3 also? > Also when building from the source I get the following error (not > serious)... > > javadoc: > [delete] Deleting directory /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/api > [mkdir] Created dir: /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/api > [mkdir] Created dir: /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/jartemp > [copy] Copying 1 file to /usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/jartemp > > BUILD FAILED > file:/usr/local/src/asaph-cvs/build/build.xml:396: The <javadoc> task > doesn't support the "breakiterator" attribute. > > I'm using java2 sdk 1.4.2 and ant 1.5.3 on linux. Do I need higher > versions? Yes, you need ant 1.6 or later. Get it from http://ant.apache.org. Daniel |
