#27 Unable to change filename casing

[Molly]

Using Wanderer it is not possible to rename icons/filenames by only changing the letter casing.

If attempted, an error will be reported back that the filename already exists.

Original report by user Amiga: http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&type=&topic_id=9901&forum=4

[Kalamatee]

This is the correct behaviour. On AmigaOS filesystems are typically case insensetive. If you want to change the case you need to do it in 2 steps (and this behaviour is similar on other OS's).

[Neil Cafferkey]

I disagree. AmigaOS filesystems are case-insensitive but case-preserving. C:Rename and all other desktop environments I've used allow changing the case of a filesystem object.

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 16:47, Neil Cafferkey ncafferkey@users.sf.net wrote:

I disagree. AmigaOS filesystems are case-insensitive but case-preserving.
C:Rename and all other desktop environments I've used allow changing the
case of a filesystem object.

Good for you. This behaviour was by design after testing other
implementations, so regardless of your preference it has been closed.

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 17:03, Kalamatee kalamatee@gmail.com wrote:

On 12 August 2016 at 16:47, Neil Cafferkey ncafferkey@users.sf.net
wrote:

I disagree. AmigaOS filesystems are case-insensitive but case-preserving.
C:Rename and all other desktop environments I've used allow changing the
case of a filesystem object.

Good for you. This behaviour was by design after testing other
implementations, so regardless of your preference it has been closed.

And to be frank - behavioural "preferences" aren't bugs and shouldn't be
getting logged as such.

[Neil Cafferkey]

I don't know how you interpreted my objection as merely a preference. The evidence I've seen is that Wanderer is behaving wrongly when compared to AmigaOS/AROS conventions. If you have other evidence, we could discuss the validity of our positions rather than shutting down the discussion.

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 18:03, Neil Cafferkey ncafferkey@users.sf.net wrote:

I don't know how you interpreted my objection as merely a preference

because it is a difference in preference of behaviour.

The evidence I've seen is that Wanderer is behaving wrongly when compared
to AmigaOS/AROS conventions.

And what evidence would that be? And what convention?

If you have other evidence, we could discuss the validity of our positions
rather than shutting down the discussion.

The onus is not on me to prove anything - but you to prove the behaviour
is wrong.

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 18:08, Nick Andrews kalamatee@users.sf.net wrote:

On 12 August 2016 at 18:03, Neil Cafferkey ncafferkey@users.sf.net wrote:

I don't know how you interpreted my objection as merely a preference

because it is a difference in preference of behaviour.

The evidence I've seen is that Wanderer is behaving wrongly when compared
to AmigaOS/AROS conventions.

And what evidence would that be? And what convention?

The main reason I have closed this is because exactly the lack of this.
There is a bad habit lately of people reporting bugs without proving the
behaviour is buggy (and often is not necessarily a "bug" but a decision
taken on the direction AROS wants to go). Worse there is a knee jerk
reaction to fix the "bug".

If there is sufficient "evidence" provided then feel free to re-open it.

If you have other evidence, we could discuss the validity of our positions
rather than shutting down the discussion.

The onus is not on me to prove anything - but you to prove the behaviour
is wrong.

As said - the onus is on the person claiming behaviour is wrong/buggy to
provide evidence to substantiate the claim.

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 19:20, Krzysztof Smiechowicz deadwood_pl@users.sf.net
wrote:

• status: closed-rejected --> open
• assigned_to: Kalamatee --> Krzysztof Smiechowicz
• Comment:

Kalamatee, I'm reopening this as this is valid enhancement. I tasted this
and even Workbench under OS 3.1 allows renaming to change casing.

It shouldn't be because it is not a bug. There is a separate area for
feature requests.

[Krzysztof Smiechowicz]

I hope we are not going to argue over semantics. I checked and I don't see a way to move this ticket to feature request tracker unfortunatelly. :(

[Nick Andrews]

On 12 August 2016 at 20:03, Krzysztof Smiechowicz deadwood_pl@users.sf.net
wrote:

I hope we are not going to argue over semantics.

There is a reason there are separate feature/bug trackers - its not
"semantics". Changes in behaviour aren't bugs.

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[Krzysztof Smiechowicz]

You can argue that behavior that makes the system less usable is a bug Kalamatee. The line is very thin. The fact that it was designed like this before is not an argument. Design can be wrong.

[Krzysztof Smiechowicz]

Kalamatee, I'm reopening this as this is valid enhancement. I tasted this and even Workbench under OS 3.1 allows renaming to change casing.

[Kalamatee]

Ticket moved from /p/aros/bugs/519/